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Spin Zone / Re: Have all the liberal/progressives left?
« on: May 30, 2017, 03:10:32 PM »
Ok you two, just kiss already.
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Assault isn't acceptable.
You guys aren't paying attention to me.
The NSA needed new rules, and whomever was President after 9/11 would have issued them. So much for blaming Bush, Steingar. As for what Obama was doing, I say again I won't judge until I know exactly what he was trying to do and that means evidence not conjecture.
Gave it a quick read, would give it 3 stars out of 5 in the Science Fiction category - pretty much like any other Presidential budget. The Republicans have their pet spending ideas, the Democrats have their's, just shifting the costs around, and rosy predictions. Some quick observations.
1.) Any estimate past two years is an educated guess, anything past 5 years is just a plain guess.
2.) The 3% GDP growth rate, while possible, is pretty optimistic. If that doesn't happen, the future year estimates are garbage.
3.) Government spending continues to rise.
4.) Note that the budget still shows revenue from the estate & gift tax, thought the President was going to abolish that.
5.) Since the tax reform is still conceptual, hard to predict the effect. The budget seems to assume that revenues will continue to increase without missing a beat. How the President will implement HUGE tax cuts and still pull that off is beyond me.
6.) There is that 2 trillion in "effect of economic feedback". I've heard that it is the revenue increase that makes the tax cuts revenue neutral. If that is true, then his budget table (S-1) is correct. Not sure you can also then show that 2 trillion as a separate line item on Table S-2 as deficit reduction. That needs clarification.
7.) the "two-penny Plan' (1.4 trillion in savings) is pretty nebulous.
8.) There is still an increase of a trillion dollars in the national debt over the next two years. And continued increases after that.
Guess I'll need to dive in with some more detail later.
Another big story regarding Trump/Russia.If I ever see any real evidence of any real wrongdoing, I might be troubled.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/russian-ambassador-told-moscow-that-kushner-wanted-secret-communications-channel-with-kremlin/2017/05/26/520a14b4-422d-11e7-9869-bac8b446820a_story.html?utm_term=.76851197f088
Sounds better than pretending there's a magical dude in heaven! I mean, at least Julius Caesar was actually there in front of them.
This is silly. What did you think I meant, that we were ruled by King Xenu?
I disagree. Even if Trump resigned or was impeached and removed, Pence would become the next President, followed by Paul Ryan and so on. Our system of government is well in tact.
Let's also remember that just because a set of information is harmful to national security does not mean that the governed people shouldn't know about it.
Saying there is a coup is hyperbole. I'll agree there are people who are actively trying to damage Trump and his administration and I think there are many who would love to see Trump resign or be impeached and removed. But that's hardly a coup.
The government likes to keep you frightened. The media likes it too, sells cars and breakfast cereals. Fact of the matter is you are far more lily to die of a plethora of mundane causes than be harmed by a terrorist. I say this having had a terrorist attack at my home institution. Freedom is more important than security.
The whole Trump Russia narrative is there to delegitimize the presidency and to further slow down any implementation of the administration.
My point remains. This site wasn't started as a conservative discussion forum, it just happened that the majority of regular posters here are more conservative minded. I want more people to post here in general, including more people with differing view points. Generally speaking, you're not likely to see people name calling here whereas if I posted over at DailyKos, I would likely be immediately insulted for daring to disagree with their narrative. But again, that's a known liberal site. PilotSpin wasn't started to be a conservative site.