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Spin Zone / COVID-19 and smoking
« on: April 11, 2020, 08:03:00 AM »
Apparently smoking increases the probabilty of severe illness resulting from a COVID-19 infection.

So, why hasn't anyone banned smoking?

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Spin Zone / COVID-19 deaths vs expected number of deaths
« on: April 10, 2020, 08:21:38 AM »
In Massachusetts, most of the COVID-19 deaths are in the population 60 and up (by "most" I mean nearly all).

So far, the highest daily number of deaths attributed to COVID-19 is 96 (all ages).

Using CDC data, if we look at the population of Massachusetts, grouped by ages, and then look at past death rates (by age groups).   You have to mash the data together (the CDC doesn't have a canned report for this nor a single set of queries), but you can get a rough idea that (for Massachusetts), we can normally expect 150 deaths per day for the population 55 and up.

I wonder how many deaths Massachusetts is experiencing that are being attributed to causes other than COVID-19.

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Spin Zone / A breath of fresh air...
« on: April 09, 2020, 07:01:53 AM »
in an otherwise totalitarian commonwealth

25:10 into it. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zkZ9gYSJTc&list=PLfzuvKpMoFEDd597ZSHxMmvkzR3XCgVSg

Gov Baker was responding to a question about raising taxes and he said something like:  so, in an economic downturn with something like as much as 25% of the workforce could be unemployed, we should raise taxes?  I don't think so.

The tone of voice was perfect (especially if you are familar with his normal speech pattern)


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Spin Zone / Who could have seen this coming...
« on: April 08, 2020, 05:57:41 AM »
A $349 billion dollar loan program for small businesses. 

The initial wave of applications apparently have crippled the SBA computers.

(there's an AP story on this)

And, I'm sure nobody could have anticipating this.

Now, in fairness, there is a huge difference between the processing needs of google, amazon, etc and the nominal computing needs of the SBA.


ps - we can bet large sums of OPM that President Trump will be blamed


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Spin Zone / Fortunately, we started with a robust economy
« on: April 07, 2020, 09:32:16 AM »
Given how the panic has fueled the economic crises, how very fortunate we are that we had a robust economy to start with (no thanks to the moroons that worship at the feet of pelosi and the rest of the democrats).


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Spin Zone / How long does it take...
« on: April 07, 2020, 04:58:36 AM »
to develop a serology test?

Are there any examples of an antibody test being developed and approved (never mind fielded) in less than 2 months?

Even just one example?


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When computing a fatality rate for COVID-19, it's important to have a reasonable handle on the number of deaths caused by COVID-19 and the number of people infected with the COVID-19 virus.

Apparently Mark Levine, Chair of New York City Council health committee, is claiming that a number of COVID-19 deaths in NYC are going unreported because there is insufficient testing resources to test everyone who dies in the city.

Ok, that could cause the number of deaths to be underreported, at least for places that have insufficient test resources

However, it is also apparent that NYC is counting anyone who dies and had COVID-19 as a COVID-19 death.  Having the virus and having the virus cause death are two different things.

This would cause the number of deaths to be overreported.  (I suppose this could be adjusted by considering the number of elderly people that normally pass away from other causes.)

Disease modelers at the University of Texas at Austin believe that the number of actual COVID-19 cases could be higher than reported (by as much as a factor of 10).  Insufficient testing means a number of people could have the virus but don't know it.

If true, this would mean that the fatality rate is lower than it appears to be.

Colorado's health website (https://covid19.colorado.gov/case-data) states that they also count people who are "highly-likely" to be infected but haven't been tested but that number is a very small portion of the total case count.

We could probably find many other examples of poor data-collection that would skew the fatality rate calculation.

It doesn't take much messing with the numerator and the denominator to create wild variations in the computed/estimated fatality rate.

But I don't want to cherry-pick in either direction.


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Spin Zone / Conspiracy
« on: April 06, 2020, 09:49:32 AM »
Notice how most of the COVID-19 cases cluster in heavily democrat-controlled locations? 

It must be a plot by the Trump administration to bankrupt those areas.

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Spin Zone / Antibody test being rolled out...
« on: April 06, 2020, 04:55:24 AM »
Today's Boston Herald (6 April) is reporting that a company in Framingham MA (Boston Heart Diagnostics) will be rolling out a blood-based antibody test.  Initial capacity of the testing is 5000 tests per day.

No report on how long it will take for additional testing capacity to be produced nor the cost of each test.

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Spin Zone / President Trump failures and crises
« on: April 05, 2020, 09:34:30 AM »
Let's see if people can list the "long list" of "Trump failures" and crises caused by President Trump

anyone?

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Spin Zone / What criteria to resume normal ops
« on: April 03, 2020, 04:49:32 PM »
So, has anyone identified the necessary criteria for resuming normal operations?

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Spin Zone / Contact tracing
« on: April 03, 2020, 12:39:45 PM »
Contact tracing is being discussed as part of the tactics against COVID-19.

Don't get wrong (but I'm sure some will misunderstand... but I won't mention any names.... professor)

What could possibly go wrong?

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Spin Zone / What? somethign positive?
« on: April 03, 2020, 11:17:06 AM »
can't have that....

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/cases-updates/cases-in-us.html

graph of new cases appears to be flattening.


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Spin Zone / What I would have liked to see
« on: April 03, 2020, 08:04:12 AM »
Instead of the WE ARE GOING TO DIE fearmongering, I would have like to see a rational discussion about reducing demand on our medical resources. 

I, for one, am not going to pointing fingers and playing the blame-game wrt how well prepared people were.  (Howedver, I will piss on those scum that hoarded essential supplies, may they rot in Hell... yes, very unchristian of me).

We have finite medical resources, we needed to avoid the high demand.  We could have avoided some of the demand if people weren't panicked.  We could have avoided some of the panicked with rational discussion of the severity of illness.  Some people willl be infected and show zero symptoms, some people will be infected and show mild symptoms, some people will be infected and show serious symptoms, some people will be infected and get so sick that they require hospitalization, and, sadly, some people will die.

Instead of rational discussion, we get WE ARE GOING TO DIE fearmongering.

The reality is that a large portion of our population is going to get infected... (kind of like the seasonal flu).  Social distancing will only delay the spread, not eliminate it.  The number of people that will die depends on our ability to handle the surge of serious cases (kind of like the seasonal flu).

Instead of rational discussion, we get WE ARE GOING TO DIE fearmongering.

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Spin Zone / Where do you draw the line...
« on: April 02, 2020, 06:56:05 AM »
(In the US)

More than a quarter million deaths due to medical errors

More than 38,000 motor vehicle deaths

More than 34,000 deaths due to the seasonal flu

More than 28,000 drownings

How many drug overdoses?

200 deaths from being struck by a motor vehicle backing up

COVID-19 projected to have 80,000 to a quarter million deaths


Compare and contrast what is done about these deaths (and who pays for the measures, if any)


Where do you draw the line?

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