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Spin Zone / Re: Christian filmmakers
« on: November 07, 2017, 08:24:30 AM »
With a reminder that federal law does not protect individuals on the basis of sexual orientation -- that's a state's purview -- the idea is that someone doesn't have a choice in their sexual orientation. I certainly didn't choose to be heterosexual. I just am. So the addition of sexual orientation to some state anti-discrimination laws seems in the same spirit. I don't entirely follow your example. The law's statement on "sex" refers to gender, not a sexual act in a barn. And the law's statement on sexual orientation refers not to a sexual act or a ceremony, but to the state of having an innate sexual preference.

Whether or not gay marriage existed 10 years ago is not especially important to me, personally. There was a time when black people were considered sub-human. I'm happy we progressed beyond that, but I can imagine a similar statement when they were in the throes of progress: "Now we can't discriminate against n------ who just a year ago weren't even considered a person?"

Sometimes a law ages well. Sometimes we grow to a point where a law is no longer needed. And sometimes the spirit of the law calls for an expansion of its language.

That's what I think, at least. Still, this is not an easy thing.
Now come on. YOU'RE the one who posited that some here want to roll back the Civil Rights Act.  Don't become a shrinking violet when I challenge your supposition.

Whether someone has or doesn't have a choice in their sexual orientation (not founded in science), or for that matter that newly created genders (founded in sociology, not biology) beyond the natural two, should not permit a creeping  expansion of laws (federal or state) that begin to impinge on people's freedom of religion, association, or speech, just because some new group or class of people now claim to be a party eligible for "special" protections under the law.

Yet that is EXACTLY what is happening today.  In fact, if you look at the baker or florist or wedding barn cases, these special, "new" groups are being granted rights over others' religious rights, even though RELIGION is one of the protected groups in the Civil Rights Act, not to mention the First Amendment. All because the "expansion of its language" is societally hip. 

Laws should not work this way, and I reject that they are being expanded by the courts and not the legislatures. 

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Spin Zone / Re: Christian filmmakers
« on: November 06, 2017, 01:34:37 PM »
It doesn't sound retarded, but it does sound like a question not germane to the question of whether they should be protected against discrimination.
I think it is germane. In the pst 10 years there have been more special interest groups that demand "rights" that exceed what was envisioned when the Civil Rights Act outlawed discrimination on the basis of race, color, religion, sex, or national origin. 

You can't discriminate on the basis of sex, but now we can't discriminate if two gay men want to use my barn to celebrate their "marriage" that never existed in the history of the US until 10 years ago?  That's not sex, it's a ceremony. There's a difference.

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Spin Zone / Re: Christian filmmakers
« on: November 06, 2017, 12:56:24 PM »
queer mafia


Whew, really had to hunt for this one. Took almost 12 seconds. You can do further research if you like. trust me - it's all over but there are some who don't want to see it. Could they be,,, might they have,,, Bias?


But wait - bias when it promotes MY brand of superstition is not bias. It's trampling MY rights.

gulp
What the fuck is that?  That's "convert or die?"

Yet another fail by an anti-religion bigot.

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Spin Zone / Re: That does it...
« on: November 06, 2017, 10:32:49 AM »
Last night my wife and I had dinner at a restaurant in an upscale mall area, quite a ways from poor sections of town. Afterwards walking towards the car I noticed a man following us, but he was well dressed and assumed he was another mall patron walking to his car. AS I went to get in, he walked up and asked for money. Luckily he was asking, not demanding, I politely refused, and he walked. But he could have demanded money, the car, who knows. This has never happened before in this area.

It's time to EDC. I'm not happy about it, but it's reality.
I've been there too. Your mistake may have been allowing him to get too close.

I was visiting our daughter in college in Worcester MA.  It was about 2100 hours and we were unloading our bags from the trunk of the rental car in the parking lot of the hotel. I saw two guys cross the street and coming in our direction. They then left the sidewalk walking toward us. At about 40 feet I used my CCW training and yelled "BACK OFF!" while pretending to reach for my non-existent pistol in my fictitious small of the back holster.  They paused, but then kept walking, and I yelled BACK THE FUCK OFF!", while taking the stance that said I'm about to pull a weapon.

They must have thought I was crazy enough to pull, so they casually walked back across the street.

I'll never know if they were serious or not, but it didn't matter at that moment. Initially my wife was embarrassed that I was making a scene, but she quickly understood what I was trying to do.

The bourbon tasted good at the hotel bar that night.

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Spin Zone / Re: Christian filmmakers
« on: November 06, 2017, 09:30:27 AM »
I am - as always, dismayed and somewhat taken aback by the intolerance of believers against anyone who does not conform to their faith or superstition mechanisms. One could almost go as far as to call that kind of behavior something we would see from the 'religion of peace'.

I always hoped that the christians had left their 'convert or die' philosophy in the dark ages. But no - it's still here.
It is?  Really?  I'm sure you can provide examples. Go ahead, I'll wait.

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Spin Zone / To football players who take a knee
« on: November 05, 2017, 09:25:43 AM »
Not related to the NFL, but related to sports:

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/21277983/mark-cuban-says-warriors-draymond-green-owes-apology-remark-team-owners

NBA player Draymond Green is saying that Mark Cuban, and others, shouldn't use the term "owner" because it implies they own people. Mark Cuban responded by saying that he owns equity, not people and it's wrong for Draymond Green to make that assertion.

We're now at the point where owning a company is offensive because it has the term "own" in it. Aside from that, the word "chairmen" has a legal component to it, such as the "chairman of the board" and is not appropriate for all situations.
Maybe we should start an era where we don't give a shit if people are offended, and instead of asking for an apology, the appropriate response would be to just tell the offending party to go fuck themselves. 

Oh, wait. That era lasted from about 1776 to 1988 or so.

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Spin Zone / Re: Why Should We Care About Crackpot Professors?
« on: November 05, 2017, 06:54:48 AM »
What fucktards. This bitching about gerrymandering is out of control. It's a good thing democrats don't use that tool to maintain power.

Oh, wait. Check out the crazy shape of congressional districts in northeast Illinois. Democrats gerrymander much?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illinois%27_congressional_districts#/media/File%3AIllinois_Congressional_Districts%2C_113th_Congress.tif

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2016 was a snore fest, from two has-been teams. Look at the line cards stats for both series. First four games of 2016 were never in doubt. Got a lot better last three games, game 7 was outstanding. 2017 the whole series was good. Record number of HRs, two games into extra innings, Springer tied Reggie for HRs in a series, home field advantage change(Dodgers, on the losing end), Houston is a WS virgin. No comparison. One good game in 2016, six good and one great game in 2017.
You're dead to me.


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Spin Zone / Re: To football players who take a knee
« on: November 05, 2017, 06:42:19 AM »
Don't do it. Your toilet will thank you.
Ha!  Duly noted. Plus we have some damn good real pizza here in Milwaukee.

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Spin Zone / No prison for Bergdahl???
« on: November 03, 2017, 11:23:21 AM »
What the fuck? 

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Spin Zone / Re: To football players who take a knee
« on: November 03, 2017, 08:51:21 AM »
I may just go get my first Papa John's pizza. Good for them for calling out the NFL. 

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Spin Zone / Re: Over/Under on Donna Brazile's future
« on: November 02, 2017, 06:56:51 PM »



Sent from my iPad . Squirrel!!

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Spin Zone / Re: Over/Under on Donna Brazile's future
« on: November 02, 2017, 01:40:20 PM »
That spin is dying, spectacularly.
I hope you're right, but the Accomplice Media will beat this horse long after it died a miserable death.  They will never let up. And 150 million stupid people will believe what the media says.

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Spin Zone / Over/Under on Donna Brazile's future
« on: November 02, 2017, 12:45:03 PM »
Any thoughts on Donna's life expectancy now that she threw Hillary under the bus?

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/11/02/donna-brazile-found-proof-dnc-rigged-nomination-for-hillary-clinton.html

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Spin Zone / Re: To football players who take a knee
« on: November 02, 2017, 09:38:23 AM »
There is no solution until you go to the root causes and fix them.

Unjustified racist feelings on the part of cops is not one of the biggest root causes. Cops are going to "profile" consciously or not, morally right or not, legally or not, and whether or not they are inherently racist, as long as blacks are statistically more likely to be a criminal.  That's never going to change until you fix why blacks commit more crime in the first place.

Why are blacks statistically more likely to be criminals?  That's where our focus needs to be.  Focusing all our attention on training cops to treat everyone equal is just trying to treat the symptom, and not very effectively, and ignoring the disease.  The disease is a threat to all of us.
Well said, Rush.

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