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Title: San Bernadino Shooting - Don't Worry, obama Already Blamed it on Gun Owners
Post by: Florida Cracker on December 02, 2015, 04:04:27 PM
So, the news announces the shootings in San Bernadino. I turn to my wife and say, "By suppertime, obama will be out whoring about legal gun ownership."

It didn't take that long. He was all in all the time, immediately.

Not a classy thing about him.
Title: Re: San Bernadino Shooting - Don't Worry, obama Already Blamed it on Gun Owners
Post by: spiderweb on December 02, 2015, 08:13:55 PM
This really did bother me.

First, it is better to wait a few hours to get the facts. Second, at a time like this, people are nervous. Why not attempt to comfort them and remind them America is strong?
Title: Re: San Bernadino Shooting - Don't Worry, obama Already Blamed it on Gun Owners
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on December 02, 2015, 08:22:54 PM
Lots of stuff in flux with this one.  First reports were about the center for special needs kids, which ended up being that a group pf county employees had rented a room for a holiday gathering.  Was there a bomb of some sort left behind or not?  Rumors that an attendee of the gathering left after an argument and came back to shoot the place up.


Who knows what it will turn out to be by tomorrow?


Stand by to stand by.
Title: Re: San Bernadino Shooting - Don't Worry, obama Already Blamed it on Gun Owners
Post by: Dav8or on December 02, 2015, 09:11:07 PM
[CONSPIRACY THEORY ALERT!!] I'm starting to think Obama has Eric Holder out hiring people to shoot up places, just so he can get support for his largely unpopular policies.

I warned you...
Title: Re: San Bernadino Shooting - Don't Worry, obama Already Blamed it on Gun Owners
Post by: nddons on December 02, 2015, 10:22:45 PM
This really did bother me.

First, it is better to wait a few hours to get the facts. Second, at a time like this, people are nervous. Why not attempt to comfort them and remind them America is strong?

Because he truly doesn't believe America is strong ... or exceptional.  He leads the Hate America First crowd.  :mad:
Title: Re: San Bernadino Shooting - Don't Worry, obama Already Blamed it on Gun Owners
Post by: Mr Pou on December 03, 2015, 05:21:29 AM
[CONSPIRACY THEORY ALERT!!] I'm starting to think Obama has Eric Holder out hiring people to shoot up places, just so he can get support for his largely unpopular policies.


As far fetched as it may seem, it sure seems like there are a lot of these events as we get close to election time. Yeah, a bit tin foil hatish, but...
Title: Re: San Bernadino Shooting - Don't Worry, obama Already Blamed it on Gun Owners
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on December 03, 2015, 06:32:05 AM
So the guys Dad says he was a devout Muslim, yet the FBI has not yet declared it a terrorist attack.  Any bet it will be called workplace violence?
Title: Re: San Bernadino Shooting - Don't Worry, obama Already Blamed it on Gun Owners
Post by: Number7 on December 03, 2015, 06:45:14 AM
Somewhere in the White House the President is moaning, right now, "Did you see those 14 murdered Americans? Damn that Man Made global warming!"

What a moron.
Title: Re: San Bernadino Shooting - Don't Worry, Obama Already Blamed it on Gun Owners
Post by: Number7 on December 03, 2015, 06:55:42 AM
Mark my words.
The "wife" was the leader of that duo, and he was a stooge. The baby will turn out not to be his, and likely not hers, but just a prop to complete the charade of the average American couple.
This was a sleeper cell at work.

just like the Boston Marathon Bombers
Title: Re: San Bernadino Shooting - Don't Worry, obama Already Blamed it on Gun Owners
Post by: JeffDG on December 03, 2015, 07:48:48 AM
This really did bother me.

First, it is better to wait a few hours to get the facts. Second, at a time like this, people are nervous. Why not attempt to comfort them and remind them America is strong?


Facts too often conflict with the Democrat narrative, so if you can get the narrative out before the facts, the Democrats with Bylines (ie. the media) will continue to push that and simply ignore the facts.  But if they report the facts first, it's harder for them to change course without looking bad.
Title: Re: San Bernadino Shooting - Don't Worry, obama Already Blamed it on Gun Owners
Post by: bullwinkle on December 03, 2015, 08:19:00 AM
[CONSPIRACY THEORY ALERT!!] I'm starting to think Obama has Eric Holder out hiring people to shoot up places, just so he can get support for his largely unpopular policies.


As far fetched as it may seem, it sure seems like there are a lot of these events as we get close to election time. Yeah, a bit tin foil hatish, but...

If you want to really get conspiratorial, look at how many of these big shooting events have "active shooter training" within 5 miles of the site and within a week of the shooting.  Sandy Hook and San Bernadino both fall in this category, as do a couple of others IIRC. 

Practice for the big day?    :o
Title: Re: San Bernadino Shooting - Don't Worry, obama Already Blamed it on Gun Owners
Post by: Anthony on December 03, 2015, 10:59:12 AM
[CONSPIRACY THEORY ALERT!!] I'm starting to think Obama has Eric Holder out hiring people to shoot up places, just so he can get support for his largely unpopular policies.


As far fetched as it may seem, it sure seems like there are a lot of these events as we get close to election time. Yeah, a bit tin foil hatish, but...

If you want to really get conspiratorial, look at how many of these big shooting events have "active shooter training" within 5 miles of the site and within a week of the shooting.  Sandy Hook and San Bernadino both fall in this category, as do a couple of others IIRC. 

Practice for the big day?    :o

And they all occur in gun free zones in states with the MOST RESTRICTIVE GUN LAWS.
Title: Re: San Bernadino Shooting - Don't Worry, obama Already Blamed it on Gun Owners
Post by: nddons on December 03, 2015, 12:44:30 PM
Disarm the populace (see the glorification of the Australian gun confiscation) so that WHEN (not if) the terrorists really start the shooting, the disarmed populace must coming running into the arms of FedGov to protect us. The only price will be greater taxation, the surrender of our sovereignty, and the complete abolishment of American Exceptionalism.

The wheels for this are already in motion. 
Title: Re: San Bernadino Shooting - Don't Worry, obama Already Blamed it on Gun Owners
Post by: Dav8or on December 03, 2015, 08:31:30 PM
Disarm the populace (see the glorification of the Australian gun confiscation) so that WHEN (not if) the terrorists really start the shooting, the disarmed populace must coming running into the arms of FedGov to protect us. The only price will be greater taxation, the surrender of our sovereignty, and the complete abolishment of American Exceptionalism.

The wheels for this are already in motion.

That is the plan. The more helpless we are, the more they can "help" us. They mean to abolish American Aggressionism. Micro to Macro and all bad and unequal thoughts in-between. If we want to stop this crazy train, we need to tear down the universities. This is where all this socialist, communist, utopia nonsense comes from. Europe is even more "progressive" than we are. Hmmm... Europe has had universities longer than we have.

When you insulate people in ivory towers way from regular people and reality and pay them insane amounts of money sit around and think of ways to "fix" all the problems in the world, this is what you get. The kicker is, we pay outrageous amounts of money to send our kids to these people to be indoctrinated and brainwashed into their ways of thinking. Think about what is being taught at our nation's universities and what they are telling he kids and you can then see clearly how a totally unqualified guy like Barak Obama could possibly be elected POTUS.
Title: Re: San Bernadino Shooting - Don't Worry, obama Already Blamed it on Gun Owners
Post by: bullwinkle on December 04, 2015, 08:21:29 AM
Disarm the populace (see the glorification of the Australian gun confiscation) so that WHEN (not if) the terrorists really start the shooting, the disarmed populace must coming running into the arms of FedGov to protect us. The only price will be greater taxation, the surrender of our sovereignty, and the complete abolishment of American Exceptionalism.

The wheels for this are already in motion.

I think it's worse than that.  They disarm us so that when the FedGov STARTS shooting, we have nowhere to run.
Title: Re: San Bernadino Shooting - Don't Worry, obama Already Blamed it on Gun Owners
Post by: nddons on December 04, 2015, 09:12:55 AM

Disarm the populace (see the glorification of the Australian gun confiscation) so that WHEN (not if) the terrorists really start the shooting, the disarmed populace must coming running into the arms of FedGov to protect us. The only price will be greater taxation, the surrender of our sovereignty, and the complete abolishment of American Exceptionalism.

The wheels for this are already in motion.

I think it's worse than that.  They disarm us so that when the FedGov STARTS shooting, we have nowhere to run.

I can't disagree. 
Title: Re: San Bernadino Shooting - Don't Worry, obama Already Blamed it on Gun Owners
Post by: CharlieTango on December 04, 2015, 09:16:52 AM
The more clear that it becomes the Muslims among us as well as those on their way are a threat the more I want to protect myself from them if it happens to me or mine.

I also want to protect myself against other criminals as well.  There is a gun store not far from here in Carson City but I just learned that if I go there and buy a weapon I will be in violation of federal law because I reside in California.

Title: Re: San Bernadino Shooting - Don't Worry, obama Already Blamed it on Gun Owners
Post by: JeffDG on December 04, 2015, 10:04:40 AM
I think instead of banning "assault style" weapons, we should ban "assault style" religions.
Title: Re: San Bernadino Shooting - Don't Worry, obama Already Blamed it on Gun Owners
Post by: Dav8or on December 04, 2015, 10:22:35 AM
The more clear that it becomes the Muslims among us as well as those on their way are a threat the more I want to protect myself from them if it happens to me or mine.

I also want to protect myself against other criminals as well.  There is a gun store not far from here in Carson City but I just learned that if I go there and buy a weapon I will be in violation of federal law because I reside in California.

This is true. You have to buy inside California. You can make a deal on a gun in Carson City and have it shipped from that dealer to a dealer inside California and legally get it that way as long as the gun is California legal. Bottom line is, you have to pick up the gun from a California dealer. California requires you to only obtain firearms from a California licensed dealer. A Federally licensed dealer in another state doesn't qualify and federal law mandates that state law be followed. It's pretty stupid, but I think it has been this way since 1968.
Title: Re: San Bernadino Shooting - Don't Worry, obama Already Blamed it on Gun Owners
Post by: bflynn on December 07, 2015, 01:24:49 PM
And they all occur in gun free zones in states with the MOST RESTRICTIVE GUN LAWS.

Of course.

The San Bernadino shooting is what a terrorist attack under gun control looks like.  The evil-doers with the guns kill the unarmed civilians whose only option is hide and hope the police get the bad guys first.

That's not to say that a good guy with a gun would have stopped either of these two, but at least there's a choice to defend one's self vs being murdered at the will of the State of California. 
Title: Re: San Bernadino Shooting - Don't Worry, obama Already Blamed it on Gun Owners
Post by: Anthony on December 07, 2015, 01:38:43 PM
[This is true. You have to buy inside California. You can make a deal on a gun in Carson City and have it shipped from that dealer to a dealer inside California and legally get it that way as long as the gun is California legal. Bottom line is, you have to pick up the gun from a California dealer. California requires you to only obtain firearms from a California licensed dealer. A Federally licensed dealer in another state doesn't qualify and federal law mandates that state law be followed. It's pretty stupid, but I think it has been this way since 1968.

This is similar to ALL other states which require a "transfer" of the firearm with a background check in YOUR state of residence.  If you buy on the internet, the gun is shipped to a licensed FFL holder (usually a gun shop) who does the background check, and has you fill out the Fed Form 4473, and any state forms required. 
Title: Re: San Bernadino Shooting - Don't Worry, obama Already Blamed it on Gun Owners
Post by: Florida Cracker on December 07, 2015, 03:17:56 PM
I found it ridiculous that o-blow-me is pretending to sound tough on terror, while remaining true to his islamic oath. That is especially true after his hand picked attorney general promised t prosecute anti-muslim speech. Then we "discover" that Jeh has at least 72 muslims working for homeland security (what an oxymoron) who just happen to be on the no-fly list, because of their islamic backgrounds and behavior.
Title: Re: San Bernadino Shooting - Don't Worry, obama Already Blamed it on Gun Owners
Post by: JeffDG on December 08, 2015, 04:48:22 AM
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Title: Re: San Bernadino Shooting - Don't Worry, obama Already Blamed it on Gun Owners
Post by: Jaybird180 on January 04, 2016, 07:49:16 AM
There was something on the news lastnight about the SB shooting regarding the couple (husband and wife, meaning 1 man, 1 woman) who is the blame for this.


Did everyone forget that the eye-witnesses all said that it was THREE white men?
Title: Re: San Bernadino Shooting - Don't Worry, obama Already Blamed it on Gun Owners
Post by: President in Exile YOLT on January 08, 2016, 07:57:23 AM
There was something on the news lastnight about the SB shooting regarding the couple (husband and wife, meaning 1 man, 1 woman) who is the blame for this.


Did everyone forget that the eye-witnesses all said that it was THREE white men?

I've brought this up before [no mention of race as far as I recall] and it was dismissed by the peanut gallery as "fog of war' reporting.

Title: Re: San Bernadino Shooting - Don't Worry, obama Already Blamed it on Gun Owners
Post by: Joe-KansasCity on January 08, 2016, 02:16:06 PM
There was something on the news lastnight about the SB shooting regarding the couple (husband and wife, meaning 1 man, 1 woman) who is the blame for this.


Did everyone forget that the eye-witnesses all said that it was THREE white men?

I've brought this up before [no mention of race as far as I recall] and it was dismissed by the peanut gallery as "fog of war' reporting.

It's clear to me that those "eye witnesses" are a bunch of racist leukophobes...