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Spin Zone => Spin Zone => Topic started by: nudnik on October 03, 2019, 11:14:35 AM

Title: Doesn’t impeachment ensure re-election?
Post by: nudnik on October 03, 2019, 11:14:35 AM
When Clinton was impeached it was the first time on a 6th year election in 160 years that the presidents’ party gained more seats than the opposition.

Wouldn’t similarly the likely fallout be:
1) It energizes the Republicans who will be angry about it
2) It discourages the Left who thought that impeachment implies removal

I can’t imagine in any world that even one vote will swing from right to left just because he got impeached.

He would pretty much be guaranteed election, and could also get back the house as a result.
Title: Re: Doesn’t impeachment insure re-election?
Post by: Lucifer on October 03, 2019, 11:17:01 AM
When Clinton was impeaches it was the first time on a 6th year election in 160 years that the presidents’ party gained more seats than the opposition.

Wouldn’t similarly the likely fallout be:
1) It energizes the Republicans who will be angry about it
2) It discourages the Left who thought that impeachment implies removal

I can’t imagine in any world that even one vote will swing from right to left just because he got impeached.

He would pretty much be guaranteed election, and could also get back the house as a result.

Yep.

 This was probably one of the stupidest moves the dims could have made.
Title: Re: Doesn’t impeachment insure re-election?
Post by: Anthony on October 03, 2019, 11:24:53 AM
Yep.

 This was probably one of the stupidest moves the dims could have made.

I do think it is more about Biden than Trump, but if they can talk about "Trump is getting Impeached" during the entire campaign, then they've achieved their objective of smearing Trump.
Title: Re: Doesn’t impeachment insure re-election?
Post by: azure on October 03, 2019, 11:25:58 AM
I disagree to some extent. If they actually draw up articles of impeachment, based on what we know now, it will be an unbelievably stupid move. So far though, it's just an inquiry.
Title: Re: Doesn’t impeachment insure re-election?
Post by: Rush on October 03, 2019, 11:26:37 AM
When Clinton was impeached it was the first time on a 6th year election in 160 years that the presidents’ party gained more seats than the opposition.

Wouldn’t similarly the likely fallout be:
1) It energizes the Republicans who will be angry about it
2) It discourages the Left who thought that impeachment implies removal

I can’t imagine in any world that even one vote will swing from right to left just because he got impeached.

He would pretty much be guaranteed election, and could also get back the house as a result.

But, but, but, Al Green says if we don't impeach him he will get re-elected.  I'm so confused.
Title: Re: Doesn’t impeachment insure re-election?
Post by: Lucifer on October 03, 2019, 11:40:32 AM
I disagree to some extent. If they actually draw up articles of impeachment, based on what we know now, it will be an unbelievably stupid move. So far though, it's just an inquiry.

 So far it's a farce.   Here's why.

 There is no such thing as a "impeachment inquiry".  This is a political stunt.  The dims are using the "impeachment inquiry" to issue subpoenas and demand records, which also is not legal.

 In order for impeachment to take place, the Speaker must call a roll call vote and articles of impeachment must be drawn up.  Once this happens, if it passes, then the trial moves to the senate, and the Chief Justice of the SC will preside.

 Now, here's the problem:  Once the articles are approved, the defendant, President Trump now has rights.  He and his legal team have the right of discovery, which includes subpoenas, depositions and document request.  And if those being subpoenaed refuse or stonewall, then they are now in contempt and will face legal process.   During the senate trial witnesses will be called for both sides.

 President Trump's lawyers can call Hillary Clinton, Barrack Obama, Joe Biden, James Comey, John Brennan, James Clapper, Andrew McCabe, Adam Schiff, Jerry Nadler, Nancy Pelosi, Maxine Waters (Ha!) plus anyone else they want.   All of these will be under oath and if they lie under oath, will face the full force of the law.  Does anyone really think any of these want to take the stand?

 Here's another part.  The President controls the Executive Branch.  Think he's not aware of what's going on over at the DoJ?   AG Barr and Durham are very busy uncovering the origins of the Russia Hoax, and the FISA Abuse scandal.   Think about how that's going to play out during depositions or being cross examined while under oath.

 The dims have way overplayed their hand on this one.
Title: Re: Doesn’t impeachment insure re-election?
Post by: Lucifer on October 03, 2019, 03:20:36 PM
https://www.wnd.com/2019/10/andy-mccarthy-there-is-no-impeachment-inquiry/

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Pointing out that the House has not voted as a body to authorize an impeachment inquiry, as required by the Constitution, he says the Democrats are conducting a "made-for-cable-TV political soap opera" designed to help them win the 2020 election.

A "haughty" Sept. 27 letter from House Democrats directing Secretary of State Mike Pompeo to cooperate in their demands to depose State Department officials and review various records "is nothing more than an informal request for voluntary cooperation," he says.

"Legally, it has no compulsive power. If anything, it is rife with legal deficiencies."

He points out that the standing committees conducting the investigation of President Trump — Intelligence, Judiciary, Foreign Affairs, Oversight and Reform, Financial Services, and Ways and Means — indeed have subpoena power.

So why don't they use it?
Title: Re: Doesn’t impeachment insure re-election?
Post by: SkyDog58 on October 03, 2019, 04:54:04 PM
So who’s going to insure the election?  State Farm? 

Oh, you meant ensure.   Carry on. 
Title: Re: Doesn’t impeachment ensure re-election?
Post by: nddons on October 04, 2019, 10:09:51 AM
I disagree to some extent. If they actually draw up articles of impeachment, based on what we know now, it will be an unbelievably stupid move. So far though, it's just an inquiry.
But it’s an inquiry which is one-sided and improper. The democrats think they get to use the term “impeachment” indefinitely, and subpoena witnesses without any defense from the Republicans. They believe they can troll for evidence without restriction, giving witnesses only 2 days notice, and demanding they can’t have their own lawyers present. The GOP is finally pushing back on this.

An “impeachment inquiry” requires a vote in the House of Representatives. Trump called their bluff and demanded they take a vote before they would cooperate further. It is a brilliant strategy, because once a vote is taken, the Republicans can begin to subpoena their own witnesses.  That’s clearly not what Schiff and Pelosi want.
Title: Re: Doesn’t impeachment ensure re-election?
Post by: lowtimer on October 04, 2019, 12:33:54 PM
I think I would enjoy watching Schiff get questioned by Jordan.
Title: Re: Doesn’t impeachment ensure re-election?
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on October 08, 2019, 05:39:01 PM
What if they gave an impeachment and nobody came?

https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2019/10/trump-refuses-to-participate-in-impeachment-farce.php
Title: Re: Doesn’t impeachment ensure re-election?
Post by: nddons on October 09, 2019, 06:34:15 AM
What if they gave an impeachment and nobody came?

https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2019/10/trump-refuses-to-participate-in-impeachment-farce.php
Excellent article. This is why the American people are backing Trump. He fights back like a man, and won’t get pushed around by the swamp.
Title: Re: Doesn’t impeachment ensure re-election?
Post by: Mase on October 13, 2019, 03:56:18 PM
Pussies for impeachment:

Title: Re: Doesn’t impeachment ensure re-election?
Post by: Number7 on October 13, 2019, 05:03:11 PM
Pussies for impeachment:

My wife has one and it looks nothing like those two.
Title: Re: Doesn’t impeachment ensure re-election?
Post by: Rush on October 13, 2019, 05:52:12 PM
That picture is so ironic... Trump is psycho?
Title: Re: Doesn’t impeachment ensure re-election?
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on October 13, 2019, 07:32:11 PM
Mark Levine is on fire tonight.  You should catch it on the web when it posts.
Title: Re: Doesn’t impeachment ensure re-election?
Post by: Lucifer on October 14, 2019, 07:57:26 AM
Mark Levine is on fire tonight.  You should catch it on the web when it posts.

https://video.foxnews.com/v/6094576903001/#sp=show-clips