PILOT SPIN

Spin Zone => Spin Zone => Topic started by: Lucifer on October 18, 2018, 07:39:18 PM

Title: Win you can't win an election on message....
Post by: Lucifer on October 18, 2018, 07:39:18 PM
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/oct/18/texas-democrats-ask-noncitizens-register-vote/
Title: Re: Win you can't win an election on message....
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on October 18, 2018, 08:08:02 PM
I was encouraged to read that the recipients sometimes questioned the checked box, some wondering if the law had changed and they could now vote. I’m not sure what the penalty is for voting illegally, but I hope these people are skittish enough about it not to try.
Title: Re: Win you can't win an election on message....
Post by: Jim Logajan on October 18, 2018, 08:46:18 PM
I was encouraged to read that the recipients sometimes questioned the checked box, some wondering if the law had changed and they could now vote. I’m not sure what the penalty is for voting illegally, but I hope these people are skittish enough about it not to try.

Wikipedia has a historical run-down on suffrage of aliens in the U.S.:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_of_foreigners_to_vote_in_the_United_States (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_of_foreigners_to_vote_in_the_United_States)

Current relevant federal statute:
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/611 (https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/611)

It indicates fines and/or prison up to one year. Note that it doesn't blanket disallow aliens from voting. If a state allows aliens to vote on local matters, the feds have no problem with that so long as the aliens aren't allowed to vote on Federal positions (e.g. presumably using separate ballots.)

Texas suffrage rules are buried in its rather long constitution:
https://tlc.texas.gov/docs/legref/TxConst.pdf (https://tlc.texas.gov/docs/legref/TxConst.pdf)
Basically says voters must be a U.S. citizen and resident of Texas.
Title: Re: Win you can't win an election on message....
Post by: SkyDog58 on October 19, 2018, 04:53:24 AM
I seem to recall that solicitation of others to commit a crime is a crime.

I also seem to recall that aiding and abetting in a crime is a crime.

This would seem to possibly check both boxes.

But I am not a legal scholar so I could be wrong.

But I do like beer. 
Title: Re: Win you can't win an election on message....
Post by: nddons on October 19, 2018, 07:51:31 AM
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/oct/18/texas-democrats-ask-noncitizens-register-vote/
Don’t tell Steingar. He’ll just laugh at you and say voter fraud doesn’t exist, and use the minimal number of prosecutions as his “proof.” 
Title: Re: Win you can't win an election on message....
Post by: Lucifer on October 19, 2018, 09:03:23 AM
Don’t tell Steingar. He’ll just laugh at you and say voter fraud doesn’t exist, and use the minimal number of prosecutions as his “proof.”

Yep.  Wash, rinse, repeat........

 The Texas dims are so desperate to get Cruz out and install a democrat they are pulling out the stops.  Beto is sinking and the dims can't stand the thought of losing that seat, again.
Title: Re: Win you can't win an election on message....
Post by: Mr Pou on October 19, 2018, 11:22:38 AM
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