PILOT SPIN
Spin Zone => Spin Zone => Topic started by: LevelWing on May 25, 2016, 10:42:21 AM
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The State Department watchdog, in an extensive and detailed report, accused Hillary Clinton of flouting federal records rules and cybersecurity guidelines with her exclusive use of personal email for government business while secretary of state.
The forthcoming inspector general audit, a copy of which was obtained by FoxNews.com, faults Clinton and her predecessors for poorly managing email and other computer information.
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"Although Clinton has long claimed her practices were like those of other Secretaries of State and allowed, the report states she was in clear violation of the Federal Records Act,” Republican National Committee Chairman Reince Priebus said in a statement.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/05/25/state-department-audit-faults-clinton-on-email-use.html
I wonder if this will have any effect on the campaign or if the FBI will take this into consideration in their investigation, if they haven't already?
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http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/05/25/state-department-audit-faults-clinton-on-email-use.html
I wonder if this will have any effect on the campaign or if the FBI will take this into consideration in their investigation, if they haven't already?
Here will be the story. It will be on section C 28 of any newspaper that is bold enough to print anything about it:
It was a violation of departmental rules. No laws were broken. Other Secretaries of State did the exact same thing. This is all a partisan witch hunt by the Republicans. End of story.
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the typical clinton buttkisser excuse: old news.
If you or I had done what the doormat did, we'd be in jail.
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I'm in a profession that's somewhat related to this and would have likely seen the paperwork to approve this sort of thing - if I were working at the State Department. I am required to be certified for my professional niche. I'd stand to lose many of my certifications for rubber stamping this.
That's my $.02
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Ahh Fox News. Wasn't she supposed to be indicted by the FBI by now?
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I'm in a profession that's somewhat related to this and would have likely seen the paperwork to approve this sort of thing - if I were working at the State Department. I am required to be certified for my professional niche. I'd stand to lose many of my certifications for rubber stamping this.
That's my $.02
But if you were working for Hillary, your certifications would remain intact. Up until the time came that she needed to throw someone under the bus, at which time your certification loss would be the least of your problems.
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Ahh Fox News. Wasn't she supposed to be indicted by the FBI by now?
Even FOX can't control the DOJ or the FBI.
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Ahh Fox News. Wasn't she supposed to be indicted by the FBI by now?
Fox News barely recalls who Hillary is. They're too busy fellating Donald Trump.
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Ahh Fox News. Wasn't she supposed to be indicted by the FBI by now?
If Fox News isn't credible to you because it's not a leftist outlet, how about CNN or ABC News?
http://www.cnn.com/2016/05/25/politics/state-department-report-faults-clinton-over-email-use/
http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/wireStory/apnewsbreak-state-dept-audit-faults-clinton-emails-39365621
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Here will be the story. It will be on section C 28 of any newspaper that is bold enough to print anything about it:
It was a violation of departmental rules. No laws were broken. Other Secretaries of State did the exact same thing. This is all a partisan witch hunt by the Republicans. End of story.
If the rule that was broken is predicated on the law, has she not coincidentally broken the law by thwarting the rule?
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If the rule that was broken is predicated on the law, has she not coincidentally broken the law by thwarting the rule?
I think you wildly missed my point.
It doesn't matter what you think, or what I think. It matters what Hillary says, and how the National Stenographers report it. They will do everything to dismiss it, disregard it, ignore it, and bury it.
I've got to believe the FBI is up to their eyeballs in this, and this State Department finding is just a side show meant to blunt and obfuscate anything else related to her scandal and exposure of national secrets.
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I think you wildly missed my point.
It doesn't matter what you think, or what I think. It matters what Hillary says, and how the National Stenographers report it. They will do everything to dismiss it, disregard it, ignore it, and bury it.
I've got to believe the FBI is up to their eyeballs in this, and this State Department finding is just a side show meant to blunt and obfuscate anything else related to her scandal and exposure of national secrets.
The worst part of all of this is that she's still running and is still the likely nominee of the Democratic Party. If this had been a Republican then at the very least the amount of pressure to drop out would be enormous and the candidate would have likely dropped out already. Think about all of the past events that were not even criminally related where Republicans were forced to resign or step down from their positions, etc.
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Here's another article, this one from Politico:
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/05/hillary-clinton-personal-email-worry-223559
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"At this point, what difference does it make?"
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This report is out from Fox News from the former State Department IG under President Bush where he says that the classified emails on her server couldn't have been an accident, among other things.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/05/30/former-state-dept-watchdog-debunks-central-clinton-email-claim.html?intcmp=hpbt1
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There was no IG in place during her term. How great was that for her.
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This report is out from Fox News from the former State Department IG under President Bush where he says that the classified emails on her server couldn't have been an accident, among other things.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/05/30/former-state-dept-watchdog-debunks-central-clinton-email-claim.html?intcmp=hpbt1
At best, the doormat failed to properly handle classified material. If the average guy with a clearance had done what the doormat did, he'd be lucky to avoid jail time.
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There was no IG in place during here term. How great was that for her.
The article that LW posted is pretty Damning. Who's job is it to appoint an IG? Congress, President? Who dropped the ball on that one? I thought it was defacto that every Cabinet agency had one.
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The article that LW posted is pretty Damning. Who's job is it to appoint an IG? Congress, President? Who dropped the ball on that one? I thought it was defacto that every Cabinet agency had one.
I believe the president nominates and the Senate confirms.
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At best, the doormat failed to properly handle classified material. If the average guy with a clearance had done what the doormat did, he'd be lucky to avoid jail time.
If an average Joe did this, they would already have been accused, tried, convicted and be in jail.
Prediction - if Obama like's Hillary's VP choice better than Hillary, she will be indicted, tried and convicted sometime between Nov 9th and Jan 20th. Hard to take office while wearing an orange jumpsuit.
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If an average Joe did this, they would already have been accused, tried, convicted and be in jail.
Prediction - if Obama like's Hillary's VP choice better than Hillary, she will be indicted, tried and convicted sometime between Nov 9th and Jan 20th. Hard to take office while wearing an orange jumpsuit.
I would like to think that if she's indicted, or even if a special prosecutor is appointed, Hilary would drop out of the race but I don't see it happening. It baffles me how someone who is being investigated for mishandling classified information is even still running for president.
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I would like to think that if she's indicted, or even if a special prosecutor is appointed, Hilary would drop out of the race but I don't see it happening. It baffles me how someone who is being investigated for mishandling classified information is even still running for president.
Simple, she's running as a democrat.
After 8 years of Bill Clinton you ask that question?
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Simple, she's running as a democrat.
After 8 years of Bill Clinton you ask that question?
It was more of a rhetorical statement. I get that their democrats and special and entitled, it's just pathetic we're at this point.
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If an average Joe did this, they would already have been accused, tried, convicted and be in jail.
Prediction - if Obama like's Hillary's VP choice better than Hillary, she will be indicted, tried and convicted sometime between Nov 9th and Jan 20th. Hard to take office while wearing an orange jumpsuit.
Yet there will STILL not be a single democratic politician, journalist, or sycophantic democratic voter who will say that she did anything wrong, and doesn't deserve to be president.
Libs are consistent in their disregard for the law as long as it's someone wearing their jersey.
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Gentlemen (and I use that term loosely - Ha ha)
Let us remember that in our society one is innocent until proved guilty. Dropping out now, would be highly suspicious and COULD make the investigation go away, which as a taxpayer and veteran is against my best interests.
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Gentlemen (and I use that term loosely - Ha ha)
Let us remember that in our society one is innocent until proved guilty. Dropping out now, would be highly suspicious and COULD make the investigation go away, which as a taxpayer and veteran is against my best interests.
You're correct that she's innocent until proven guilty, however when you're running for the highest office in the land, you need to be above reproach. The fact that she is under investigation for mishandling classified information as the Secretary of State should disqualify her for being president. I don't want a president who was once investigated for mishandling classified information who has daily access to the most sensitive information our nation has.
It's also not just an allegation, it's a formal investigation which means there was credible enough information to conduct the investigation. She is innocent of criminal charges until proven guilty but is ineligible for president in my opinion because of this.
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Gentlemen (and I use that term loosely - Ha ha)
Let us remember that in our society one is innocent until proved guilty. Dropping out now, would be highly suspicious and COULD make the investigation go away, which as a taxpayer and veteran is against my best interests.
um, the doormat dropping out would actually be in our best interest (including yours)
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um, the doormat dropping out would actually be in our best interest (including yours)
Nah- we gotta run this one up the flagpole first.
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Yet there will STILL not be a single democratic politician, journalist, or sycophantic democratic voter who will say that she did anything wrong, and doesn't deserve to be president.
Libs are consistent in their disregard for the law as long as it's someone wearing their jersey.
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An awful lot of faithful, adoring, democrats are quite happy with this type of answer.
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