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Spin Zone => Spin Zone => Topic started by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on February 09, 2023, 07:17:16 AM
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Congressional hearing yesterday. Cathartic to see Twitter toadies squirm. And Congressman Clay Higgins tells them their arrests are coming for suppressing the laptop/Biden Crime Family news.
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/02/fireworks-gop-congressman-warns-twitter-execs-may-arrested-interfering-2020-presidential-election-video/
Sad to hear Congresswoman Nancy Mace describe her vaccine damage, while saying to the Twitter tyrants she wouldn’t have taken it if she’d seen the evidence from highly qualified doctors that it wasn’t safe. “Where did you go to medical school, Ms. Gadde?”
https://gab.com/MorpheusMAGA/posts/109830577079433194
And Lauren Boebert pins the tyrants to the wall showing how they censored conservative voices, including her own. Silencing and shadowbanning members of Congress, AND A SITTING PRESIDENT, is against the law.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gy7mtoyrlXI
Jim Jordan on the censorship and FBI in bed with Twitter.
https://gab.com/OCANADA/posts/109830419567083827
And brilliant attack by Rep. Anna Paulina Luna of Florida.
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/02/star-born-rep-anna-paulina-luna-torches-yoel-roth-exposes-democrat-big-tech-government-collusion-former-twitter-execs-left-speechless/
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Thanks, I didn't have time to search out that stuff and listen to it. I will review your links when I get time today. Pretty busy. How is your hand??
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"GOP Congressman Warns Twitter Execs They May be Arrested For Interfering in 2020 Presidential Election "
Refusing to allow others post things you don't like on your privately owned website is against the law?
Did Rep. Higgins cite a particular law supporting that idea?
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Refusing to allow others post things you don't like on your privately owned website is against the law?
Did Rep. Higgins cite a particular law supporting that idea?
Green font man, green font.
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Just a PR fund raising hearing, nothing will come of it.
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"GOP Congressman Warns Twitter Execs They May be Arrested For Interfering in 2020 Presidential Election "
Refusing to allow others post things you don't like on your privately owned website is against the law?
Did Rep. Higgins cite a particular law supporting that idea?
They'll try to pull that argument and might get away with it, but it's bogus. Twitter is now a defacto public square. You can't hide behind the "it's privately owned" excuse when Twitter took marching orders directly from government spooks trying to tip the balance of an election.
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They'll try to pull that argument and might get away with it, but it's bogus. Twitter is now a defacto public square. You can't hide behind the "it's privately owned" excuse when Twitter took marching orders directly from government spooks trying to tip the balance of an election.
I'll have to admit that I'm really torn on this. Twitter is indeed a private company and I would think that they should be allowed to post and NOT post whatever they want. There are other outlets out there that can be used if someone doesn't like what is being done or not done. If I own a piece of property in the center of town I can control whatever happens on that property. (GET OFF MY LAWN!) If someone doesn't like it, get your own property and do what you want there. If people have been using my property for years to shout their views and I suddenly tell them to stop because I don't like what they are saying, can the defacto public square argument be used here as well? I just don't know.
Now, the Government telling Twitter what they can and can not do is a whole different matter.
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"GOP Congressman Warns Twitter Execs They May be Arrested For Interfering in 2020 Presidential Election "
Refusing to allow others post things you don't like on your privately owned website is against the law?
Did Rep. Higgins cite a particular law supporting that idea?
Conspiring to deny first amendment rights is a bit different from your rant.
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Let’s face reality. Merrick Garlands DoJ is not going to arrest anyone, much less pursue charges.
This is all political theater.
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"GOP Congressman Warns Twitter Execs They May be Arrested For Interfering in 2020 Presidential Election "
Refusing to allow others post things you don't like on your privately owned website is against the law?
Did Rep. Higgins cite a particular law supporting that idea?
Twitter was operating as a front for the communist within the government. Big difference.
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I'll have to admit that I'm really torn on this. Twitter is indeed a private company and I would think that they should be allowed to post and NOT post whatever they want. There are other outlets out there that can be used if someone doesn't like what is being done or not done. If I own a piece of property in the center of town I can control whatever happens on that property. (GET OFF MY LAWN!) If someone doesn't like it, get your own property and do what you want there. If people have been using my property for years to shout their views and I suddenly tell them to stop because I don't like what they are saying, can the defacto public square argument be used here as well? I just don't know.
Now, the Government telling Twitter what they can and can not do is a whole different matter.
Private company or not, Section 230 makes you immune from liability if you call yourself a platform. But if you censor content, then you’re acting like a publisher and should be held accountable for what you choose to keep vs toss because you are influencing the direction of information/ disinformation and hence should be liable, but these “private companies” are having it both ways; they’re acting like private publishers but claiming the protection of a public platform.
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Private company or not, Section 230 makes you immune from liability if you call yourself a platform. But if you censor content, then you’re acting like a publisher and should be held accountable for what you choose to keep vs toss because you are influencing the direction of information/ disinformation and hence should be liable, but these “private companies” are having it both ways; they’re acting like private publishers but claiming the protection of a public platform.
Exactly, as stated in one of the videos. The looming issue (also stated in video) is they’re not publishers, but editors.
And people died and got sick because Twitter suppressed highly qualified epidemiologists, virologists, doctors and so on from posting, while allowing deadly lies to proliferate.
And the country is suffering and people have died from the inept imposter Resident (mandates, soldiers killed in Afghanistan pullout, etc.), the Taliban is armed to the teeth with our equipment, and tens of billions of our dollars have been sent to Ukraine to shut Zelensky’s mouth about the Biden crime cartel.
All of which would not have happened if voters had known about the Biden perfidy, which Twitter suppressed because it would harm Biden at the polls and make the scheduled cheat look less feasible.
And the FBI was literally embedded at Twitter, with special channels for quickly hiding and banning and suspending to keep anything pro-America and anti-Biden from being seen. RIGHT BEFORE THE ELECTION.
Those are the accusations, and it will be a true tragedy if nothing happens to punish these murderers and traitors, which they literally are.
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Thanks, I didn't have time to search out that stuff and listen to it. I will review your links when I get time today. Pretty busy. How is your hand??
Wrist bone is healed and now I’m working on bending fingers in (ouch) to make a fist. Can get only about halfway there at the moment. Dr. says a year or so is normal. She showed me the x-rays from the ER, which I had not seen. There were bone fragments in there! So lots of tissue trauma. She said it was a bad break.
Like you and your hip, though, I mostly forget about it until I try to make a fist or grab.
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Twitter, Facebook, MSN, Google, Apple, etc. all fronts working with the Fascist Democrats to suppress the TRUTH.
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Wrist bone is healed and now I’m working on bending fingers in (ouch) to make a fist. Can get only about halfway there at the moment. Dr. says a year or so is normal. She showed me the x-rays from the ER, which I had not seen. There were bone fragments in there! So lots of tissue trauma. She said it was a bad break.
Like you and your hip, though, I mostly forget about it until I try to make a fist or grab.
Wow, that you can forget about it at all is great! No more constant agony?
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Private company or not, Section 230 makes you immune from liability if you call yourself a platform. But if you censor content, then you’re acting like a publisher and should be held accountable for what you choose to keep vs toss because you are influencing the direction of information/ disinformation and hence should be liable, but these “private companies” are having it both ways; they’re acting like private publishers but claiming the protection of a public platform.
There was no crime committed by Twitter. Any crimes that were committed would have been by government employees. Any threat of coercion by them would be a violation of the First Amendment.
FYI, Section 230: https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/47/230 (https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/47/230)
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There was no crime committed by Twitter. Any crimes that were committed would have been by government employees. Any threat of coercion by them would be a violation of the First Amendment.
FYI, Section 230: https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/47/230 (https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/47/230)
I guess I have to agree with that. There may be a lot of civil cases against Twitter, but criminal would be the government.
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Wow, that you can forget about it at all is great! No more constant agony?
No, it just hurts when I bend the fingers in to make a fist. Which I have to do all day long pretty much so I can get that range of motion back. Progress still is lost overnight, but less so all the time. The swelling slowly has gone down.
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Not sure how my DIL's range of motion is but she's been playing pickle ball again for a few weeks.
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First article under “World News and Commentary.”
https://www.coffeeandcovid.com/p/mitigated-and-weaponized-friday-february
“Never before seen levels of government overreach.”
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Congressional hearing yesterday. Cathartic to see Twitter toadies squirm. And Congressman Clay Higgins tells them their arrests are coming for suppressing the laptop/Biden Crime Family news.
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/02/fireworks-gop-congressman-warns-twitter-execs-may-arrested-interfering-2020-presidential-election-video/
Sad to hear Congresswoman Nancy Mace describe her vaccine damage, while saying to the Twitter tyrants she wouldn’t have taken it if she’d seen the evidence from highly qualified doctors that it wasn’t safe. “Where did you go to medical school, Ms. Gadde?”
https://gab.com/MorpheusMAGA/posts/109830577079433194
And Lauren Boebert pins the tyrants to the wall showing how they censored conservative voices, including her own. Silencing and shadowbanning members of Congress, AND A SITTING PRESIDENT, is against the law.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gy7mtoyrlXI
Jim Jordan on the censorship and FBI in bed with Twitter.
https://gab.com/OCANADA/posts/109830419567083827
And brilliant attack by Rep. Anna Paulina Luna of Florida.
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/02/star-born-rep-anna-paulina-luna-torches-yoel-roth-exposes-democrat-big-tech-government-collusion-former-twitter-execs-left-speechless/
I think Clay Higgins might be my favorite member of Congress.
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"GOP Congressman Warns Twitter Execs They May be Arrested For Interfering in 2020 Presidential Election "
Refusing to allow others post things you don't like on your privately owned website is against the law?
Did Rep. Higgins cite a particular law supporting that idea?
I like your libertarian leanings, Jim, but if you believe this then you are delusional. The “privately owned” canard went out the window when the company willingly and enthusiastically colluded with the law enforcement arm of the executive branch to silence POLITICAL speech.
If you can’t see that as a direct violation of the First Amendment, then you aren’t as much a libertarian as you are an anarchist.
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I guess I have to agree with that. There may be a lot of civil cases against Twitter, but criminal would be the government.
When the FBI made Twitter an agent of the government, Twitter employees are liable.
Under the law of agency, the agent will not be liable for acts performed for the principal as long as the relationship between the principal and the agent has been disclosed.
But if the agency relationship is NOT disclosed to a third parties, BOTH the agent (Twitter) and the principal (FedGov) are liable for acts performed by the agent.
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When the FBI made Twitter an agent of the government, Twitter employees are liable.
Under the law of agency, the agent will not be liable for acts performed for the principal as long as the relationship between the principal and the agent has been disclosed.
But if the agency relationship is NOT disclosed to a third parties, BOTH the agent (Twitter) and the principal (FedGov) are liable for acts performed by the agent.
Ah, that's the part I was missing. Twitter, on their own, censoring speech is well within their right as a private company. But as soon as they started acting as an agent of the government, then that's when they ran afoul of the law.
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When the FBI made Twitter an agent of the government, Twitter employees are liable.
Under the law of agency, the agent will not be liable for acts performed for the principal as long as the relationship between the principal and the agent has been disclosed.
But if the agency relationship is NOT disclosed to a third parties, BOTH the agent (Twitter) and the principal (FedGov) are liable for acts performed by the agent.
Ah, okay. Although I still think intimidation is involved but maybe that isn’t a defense. If the FBI came along and told me to kill someone, and I felt intimidated so killed them, that wouldn’t absolve me. Merely feeling cowed because “it’s the FBI” isn’t enough. They’d have to have a gun to my own head or something.
And besides, even if the Twitter employees felt they had to obey “zomg it’s the FBI” they were all too happy to comply because their own bias aligned with what they were being asked to do.
Slimy on both sides.
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Ah, that's the part I was missing. Twitter, on their own, censoring speech is well within their right as a private company. But as soon as they started acting as an agent of the government, then that's when they ran afoul of the law.
And as Stan pointed out used subterfuge in order to accomplish that censorship of one side.
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Ah, okay. Although I still think intimidation is involved but maybe that isn’t a defense. If the FBI came along and told me to kill someone, and I felt intimidated so killed them, that wouldn’t absolve me. Merely feeling cowed because “it’s the FBI” isn’t enough. They’d have to have a gun to my own head or something.
And besides, even if the Twitter employees felt they had to obey “zomg it’s the FBI” they were all too happy to comply because their own bias aligned with what they were being asked to do.
Slimy on both sides.
That would be entrapmemt, and would absolve you of a crime.
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And besides, even if the Twitter employees felt they had to obey “zomg it’s the FBI” they were all too happy to comply because their own bias aligned with what they were being asked to do.
Slimy on both sides.
Great way to say it. I'm quite sure that if the FBI under Present Trump had asked Twitter to suppress democrats they would have refused and then shouted from the rooftops what was going on. The "but it's the FBI telling us to do it" defense may work with the unwashed masses, but it's not a legal defense. They could easily have refused.
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That would be entrapmemt, and would absolve you of a crime.
Maybe. It might depend on the severity. The FBI telling me to pass a bad check, yeah. The FBI telling me to murder someone, I don't think I'd be absolved. Unless that person needed murdering, of course.
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Ah, that's the part I was missing. Twitter, on their own, censoring speech is well within their right as a private company. But as soon as they started acting as an agent of the government, then that's when they ran afoul of the law.
The corrupt pigs of the FBI PAID social media to censor the free speech of those that the corrupt pigs the FBI felt were political opponents.
That makes them an ARM of the corrupt fbi, not an independent company.
The fucking corrupt pigs of the FBI paid visits to social media, embedded employees inside the social media companies and then told them who to censor.
There is nothing general about it. the fucking pigs at the fbi are the enemy and social media is their bitch.
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Maybe. It might depend on the severity. The FBI telling me to pass a bad check, yeah. The FBI telling me to murder someone, I don't think I'd be absolved. Unless that person needed murdering, of course.
Severe = Broadly suppressing, across all mainstream social media, HEINOUS criminal activity by a presidential candidate and his son.
Severe = Broadly suppressing, across all mainstream social media, knowledgeable and highly qualified medical voices that, had they been widely heard, would have saved lives and serious damage to the health of millions. That right there is Stalinesque, and includes MURDER.
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Severe = Broadly suppressing, across all mainstream social media, HEINOUS criminal activity by a presidential candidate and his son.
Severe = Broadly suppressing, across all mainstream social media, knowledgeable and highly qualified medical voices that, had they been widely heard, would have saved lives and serious damage to the health of millions. That right there is Stalinesque, and includes MURDER.
Totally agree. I am really interested in what comes from these hearings. I'm expecting nothing, so anything would be great. Election interference at the least. First amendment violations by the federal government. I'm so hoping that all this will come to light. But that also requires Republicans to grow a spine and be willing to face the wrath of the uniparty.
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There is nothing general about it. the fucking pigs at the fbi are the enemy and social media is their bitch.
I wish I had your way with words. You leave no doubt where you stand.
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I think Clay Higgins might be my favorite member of Congress.
This will sound familiar.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KjtGkrxnKA8
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Ah, that's the part I was missing. Twitter, on their own, censoring speech is well within their right as a private company. But as soon as they started acting as an agent of the government, then that's when they ran afoul of the law.
That’s how I see it.
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And as Stan pointed out used subterfuge in order to accomplish that censorship of one side.
Ah, “subterfuge” is the PERFECT word for what has been going on with the public/private partnership workaround of the Bill of Rights.
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This will sound familiar.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KjtGkrxnKA8
Yep! I saw that thing a few years ago, but when I pointed out Higgins’ performance in hearing to my brother, he sent me this clip, and I never made the connection that it was the same guy.
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Ah, “subterfuge” is the PERFECT word for what has been going on with the public/private partnership workaround of the Bill of Rights.
Yep, and that is fascism. The government can’t directly violate the Constitution so they get a private firm to do it for them.
Well, they directly violate the Constitution all the time, but you know what I mean.
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I wish I had your way with words. You leave no doubt where you stand.
What was it obama said to harry reid?
“I have a gift…”
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The corrupt pigs of the FBI PAID social media to censor the free speech of those that the corrupt pigs the FBI felt were political opponents.
That makes them an ARM of the corrupt fbi, not an independent company.
The fucking corrupt pigs of the FBI paid visits to social media, embedded employees inside the social media companies and then told them who to censor.
There is nothing general about it. the fucking pigs at the fbi are the enemy and social media is their bitch.
We are now firmly in KGB and STASI Land. This is criminal. The Comrades of the new People's Democratic Republic of the North American Territory formerly known as the USA are proud! All hail the Rodina!