PILOT SPIN
Spin Zone => Spin Zone => Topic started by: Jim Logajan on November 09, 2016, 09:00:09 PM
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Do they want a do-over under different rules? Sounds like it.
Keep at it till they get the results they expected?
If they weren't going to accept the results, why did we bother with an election and not go straight to a coronation of the queen?
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Do they want a do-over under different rules? Sounds like it.
Keep at it till they get the results they expected?
That is the Liberal Way.
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Lefties going crazy. Because throwing a tantrum is how a democracy works. ::) ::)
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That is the Liberal Way.
Remember when thousands of conservatives were on the street protesting the day after the election of Clinton and later that of Obama?
Me neither.
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Remember when thousands of conservatives were on the street protesting the day after the election of Clinton and later that of Obama?
Me neither.
Conservative riots?
You know, since somebody has to adult and go to work so the gubermint can confiscate half and redistribute to Mitt Romney's 47%.
'Gimp
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Lefties going crazy. Because throwing a tantrum is how a democracy works. ::) ::)
Liberal/Progressives are like spoiled children. If they don't get their way, they have a hissy fit. A lot of it was just an excuse to smoke dope, drink, and go create mayhem en masse.
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Liberal/Progressives are like spoiled children. If they don't get their way, they have a hissy fit. A lot of it was just an excuse to smoke dope, drink, and go create mayhem en masse.
FTFY
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Remember when thousands of conservatives were on the street protesting the day after the election of Clinton and later that of Obama?
WTF, I don't remember that at all!
Me neither.
Oh.
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The saddest thing about the cupcake/snowflake generation is that they believe democracy means they get to have their voice heard and nobody else gets to have their voice heard unless it agrees with them.
Typical spoiled brats.
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The saddest thing about the cupcake/snowflake generation is that they believe democracy means they get to have their voice heard and nobody else gets to have their voice heard unless it agrees with them.
Typical spoiled brats.
Absolutely.
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Absolutely.
The "everyone gets a trophy" generation. They will eventually win, though, but hopefully I'll be too old by then to give a damn.
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I thought the system was rigged. Shouldn't people protest a rigged system? Are you saying the system isn't rigged? What about the rampant voter fraud--thousands of illegals voting illegally. Shouldn't there be protests? People are saying some voting machines recorded votes for someone other than the candidate checked--obviously a conspiracy to rig the election--we should all be protesting just like Trump said we should. Oh, wait, Trump won--nevermind.
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Trump won despite the massive vote fraud.
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Trump won despite the massive vote fraud.
^^^^This. In my area, there was a lot of incidents of the voting machines making mistakes because, "they weren't calculated properly". Well, WTF? You knew the election was coming for years, yet the machines weren't calibrated? Oh, they were calibrated all right, but to do what their calibrators wanted. Change R votes to D.
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Oh, wait, Trump won
Thanks for acknowledging! :D
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First 10 or so articles on Milo's blog today very disturbing.
One of the worst ... They only BELIEVED this man had voted for Trump.
http://milo.yiannopoulos.net/2016/11/black-beat-white-man-trump/
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Thanks for acknowledging! :D
You're welcome. We'll see if you're still thankful in a year or two.
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You're welcome. We'll see if you're still thankful in a year or two.
::)
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Oh, wait, Trump won--nevermind.
Yes.
And there will be consequences.
By the way, Trump won in spite of the system being rigged. Those protesters are protesting that those doing the rigging were unsuccessful at it.
But thanks for acknowledging that Trump won.
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Yes.
And there will be consequences.
By the way, Trump won in spite of the system being rigged. Those protesters are protesting that those doing the rigging were unsuccessful at it.
But thanks for acknowledging that Trump won.
Trump won because the system isn't rigged and because there are not thousands of illegals voting for Democrats to ensure a Liberal victory.
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Trump won because the system isn't rigged and because there are not thousands of illegals voting for Democrats to ensure a Liberal victory.
So how many illegals did vote this time?
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Trump won because the system isn't rigged and because there are not thousands of illegals voting for Democrats to ensure a Liberal victory.
There was voter fraud that won the election for JFK. There was voter fraud in this election. Trump just had enough votes to overcome it.
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... there are not thousands of illegals voting for Democrats to ensure a Liberal victory.
How do you know that?
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How do you know that?
Because the liberals lost.
They would have had to have had many more thousands of fraudulent votes to win this one.
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Because the liberals lost.
They would have had to have had many more thousands of fraudulent votes to win this one.
How do you know that there weren't thousand of fraudulent votes that were unsuccessful?
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They'll get tired and go home soon. The lazy fools will need to have their mommies wash their clothes soon.
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They'll get tired and go home soon. The lazy fools will need to have their mommies wash their clothes soon.
Exactly Joe. Just like the Occupy Wall Street movement which lasted longer than these RIOTS (not legal protests), it will peter out. I give it another day, maybe.
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How do you know that there weren't thousand of fraudulent votes that were unsuccessful?
That makes no sense to me.
Regardless of how many thousands of fraudulent votes there were, they were not successful. They would have needed many thousands more.
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By the way, Trump won in spite of the system being rigged. Those protesters are protesting that those doing the rigging were unsuccessful at it.
But thanks for acknowledging that Trump won.
Won in spite of the system being rigged?? Maybe it is a matter of definition. Rigging an election is the coordinated, organized effort by a group to influence an election contrary to the results of the voters.
I'd be happy to agree that the election was rigged, just need some evidence. Rigging is not isolated events of voter error, bad voter roles, or machine errors.
As far as the protestors, kinda pointless on their part, but what the heck, if it makes them feel better, have at it. Not going to change a thing.
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Exactly Joe. Just like the Occupy Wall Street movement which lasted longer than these RIOTS (not legal protests), it will peter out. I give it another day, maybe.
It'll go on until the funding stops.
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It'll go on until the funding stops.
Soros has deep pockets. And he funded the loss of Sheriff Joe.
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Soros has deep pockets. And he funded the loss of Sheriff Joe.
I hope Attorney General Giuliani goes after him and his rotten offspring.
Soros, not Joe...
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Protests in Portland upgraded to riot. Tear gas in use, projectiles being thrown at police, windows being broken, police warning people this is felony, referring to them as anarchists.
http://www.kptv.com/story/33683647/protesters-set-to-march-through-portland-for-third-night-in-a-row-after-election
Gee, my happy glow and optimism from Tuesday night are fading. :'(
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The petulant two year olds will tire out, and go back to their basements to smoke more dope.
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Won in spite of the system being rigged?? Maybe it is a matter of definition. Rigging an election is the coordinated, organized effort by a group to influence an election contrary to the results of the voters.
I'd be happy to agree that the election was rigged, just need some evidence. Rigging is not isolated events of voter error, bad voter roles, or machine errors.
ok, I"m willing to substitute some word for "rigged". Perhaps "stacked" would be better. Or unbalanced, or some other descriptive term to describe a system that attempts to predetermine the outcome.
The first and most obvious is the unbalanced media sway. You have FOX and maybe the Wall Street Journal on one side, and practically every other major outlet on the other.
Then there are the imbalances within the incumbent political structure, including the un-elected bureaucracy. It makes it very difficult for a newcomer to run against an incumbent.
And there is the fact that human nature makes it much easier for the left to buy votes by promising to redistribute wealth from the few to the many than it does for the right telling people they need to be responsible for their own success or failure.
But you are right; rigged isn't the right word.
As far as the protestors, kinda pointless on their part, but what the heck, if it makes them feel better, have at it. Not going to change a thing.
Agreed. But they shouldn't be excused from school to protest. If a business chooses to excuse them and pay them while they protest, that is the business's right.
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Agreed. But they shouldn't be excused from school to protest. If a business chooses to excuse them and pay them while they protest, that is the business's right.
And they shouldn't disrupt traffic, restrain commerce nor destroy things and hurt people, which they are doing. These are not protests, they are riots.
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ok, I"m willing to substitute some word for "rigged". Perhaps "stacked" would be better. Or unbalanced, or some other descriptive term to describe a system that attempts to predetermine the outcome.
The first and most obvious is the unbalanced media sway. You have FOX and maybe the Wall Street Journal on one side, and practically every other major outlet on the other.
Then there are the imbalances within the incumbent political structure, including the un-elected bureaucracy. It makes it very difficult for a newcomer to run against an incumbent.
And there is the fact that human nature makes it much easier for the left to buy votes by promising to redistribute wealth from the few to the many than it does for the right telling people they need to be responsible for their own success or failure.
But you are right; rigged isn't the right word.
Agreed. But they shouldn't be excused from school to protest. If a business chooses to excuse them and pay them while they protest, that is the business's right.
The right has been describing the system as rigged against them throughout the election. They regularly complained that leagues of fraudulent voters would nearly guarantee a Democrat victory. And yet we just had the most disliked candidate in modern history become a Republican president.
The system isn't rigged against the GOP. Trump is living proof. But there are many non-partisan problems with the system that I'd love to see fixed.
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The right has been describing the system as rigged against them throughout the election. They regularly complained that leagues of fraudulent voters would nearly guarantee a Democrat victory. And yet we just had the most disliked candidate in modern history become a Republican president.
The system isn't rigged against the GOP. Trump is living proof. But there are many non-partisan problems with the system that I'd love to see fixed.
Just because Trump won doesn't mean the system isn't slanted towards the Democrats. He just had enough votes to overcome the slant. This is a landmark election.
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Just because Trump won doesn't mean the system isn't slanted towards the Democrats. He just had enough votes to overcome the slant. This is a landmark election.
Says you! We had a number of folks right here on PS projecting a Clinton win primarily due to voter fraud. Didn't happen. So you'll pardon me if I don't believe you. :D
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Says you! We had a number of folks right here on PS projecting a Clinton win primarily due to voter fraud. Didn't happen. So you'll pardon me if I don't believe you. :D
Just because it wasn't effective doesn't mean it didn't happen.
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Just because it wasn't effective doesn't mean it didn't happen.
Just because you say it happened doesn't mean it did.
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Just because it wasn't effective doesn't mean it didn't happen.
When making a claim it helps to produce supporting evidence for the claim to be considered credible. That is my modest standard, anyway. Expression of paranoia or an appeal only to plausibility just doesn't suffice. At least not when the claim is for fraud that didn't happen on large enough scale to be noticed.
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If a Republican wins an election is it proof the no election fraud has been committed by the democrats?
If a Democrats wins an election is it proof that election fraud has been committed by the democrats?
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Just because you say it happened doesn't mean it did.
There are many examples of "mis-calibrated" voting machines in my area. Why were they miscalibrated? They knew the election was coming for how long?
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Soros has deep pockets. And he funded the loss of Sheriff Joe.
Trump should make Sheriff Joe head if ICE, or the Southwest region of DHS. Would that not be the biggest "Fuck you" to Soros and his ilk?
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Just because the criminals at the DNC didn't cheat enough, doesn't mean they didn't cheat at all. Making a all or nothing case is stupid when it came to democrats and vote fraud.
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Just because the criminals at the DNC didn't cheat enough, doesn't mean they didn't cheat at all. Making a all or nothing case is stupid when it came to democrats and vote fraud.
Why do you think Clinton folded that night? If they all "went home" and suddenly she won some of the key states where it was obvious she was behind Trump, fraud would be called by the Trump camp and they'd actually have to count and verify each vote, which amazingly would find thousands of dead Democrats and people with "no known address."
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Trump denounced the rioting tonight on 60 Minutes. Looked straight into the camera and said "Stop it."
Can anyone point to any action sitting president O or HRC have take to denounce the riots or address the irrational and inaccurate spewings of these thugs?
"Rape Melania" sign at Trump Tower, and #RapeMelania hashtag on Twitter. Way to respect women!
Update. I see that O had to play five hours of golf today. Then he's headed out to Greece and other locales. So, no martial law, no comment, no time, too busy? Slacker in Chief.
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Of course they're not saying anything, a. they want it to happen and b. the puppetmaster Soros is backing it.
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Trump denounced the rioting tonight on 60 Minutes. Looked straight into the camera and said "Stop it."
Can anyone point to any action sitting president O or HRC have take to denounce the riots or address the irrational and inaccurate spewings of these thugs?
"Rape Melania" sign at Trump Tower, and #RapeMelania hashtag on Twitter. Way to respect women!
Update. I see that O had to play five hours of golf today. Then he's headed out to Greece and other locales. So, no martial law, no comment, no time, too busy? Slacker in Chief.
I guess I'll have to go back and watch it again. I thought that when he looked at the camera and said "stop it" he was talking to his supporters that were doing and saying mean, racist things about certain minorities. He was condemning his supporters for acting badly, just as liberal leaders should be condemning the protesters. I'll watch it again later.
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I guess I'll have to go back and watch it again. I thought that when he looked at the camera and said "stop it" he was talking to his supporters that were doing and saying mean, racist things about certain minorities. He was condemning his supporters for acting badly, just as liberal leaders should be condemning the protesters. I'll watch it again later.
In either case (President-Elect Trump telling his supporters to stop it or telling the violent protesters to stop it), it is appropriate for him to tell them to stop it.
Has anyone seen the liberal "leadership" tell the violent protesters to stop it?
(yes, I'm deliberately saying "violent" because I believe people have a right to protest peaceably no matter how misguided their protest is.)
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Of course they're not saying anything, a. they want it to happen and b. the puppetmaster Soros is backing it.
I hope one of the first things that Trump does is have his new FBI Director go after Soros.
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In either case (President-Elect Trump telling his supporters to stop it or telling the violent protesters to stop it), it is appropriate for him to tell them to stop it.
Has anyone seen the liberal "leadership" tell the violent protesters to stop it?
(yes, I'm deliberately saying "violent" because I believe people have a right to protest peaceably no matter how misguided their protest is.)
There is only one witness-less "report" and that one is dubious to say the least. On the other side, HRC "supporters" are on TV.
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I guess I'll have to go back and watch it again. I thought that when he looked at the camera and said "stop it" he was talking to his supporters that were doing and saying mean, racist things about certain minorities. He was condemning his supporters for acting badly, just as liberal leaders should be condemning the protesters. I'll watch it again later.
What are "his supporters" saying?
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I hope one of the first things that Trump does is have his new FBI Director go after Soros.
Soros is certainly an enemy of the U.S. That would be prudent.
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What are "his supporters" saying?
He was asked what he though about reports that some of his supporters are committing acts of violence and using racial slurs. He was told that some of them are threatening African Americans, Latinos and gays.
Trump said he hadn't heard that before, (except a very few instances), but he hates to hear it. And he condemns it. He said if it is happening it needs to stop. When Leslie Stahl pushed, he said look, I am going to look straight into the camera and say "stop it".
I don't usually watch video links, especially long ones, but this one was really good. It is one of the very very very rare times that I recommend someone watch a 60 minutes episode. But you and everyone, especially liberals, should watch it.
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Where's Obama on trying to quell this? Oh yeah, He's on his Farewell International Apology Tour. He felt the need to apologize for GWB coming in and now the same for DJT going out. Is there anyway to get him to not come back? Maybe he can stay in his home country.
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Where's Obama on trying to quell this? Oh yeah, He's on his Farewell International Apology Tour. He felt the need to apologize for GWB coming in and now the same for DJT going out. Is there anyway to get him to not come back? Maybe he can stay in his home country.
Red China??
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He was asked what he though about reports that some of his supporters are committing acts of violence and using racial slurs. He was told that some of them are threatening African Americans, Latinos and gays.
Trump said he hadn't heard that before, (except a very few instances), but he hates to hear it. And he condemns it. He said if it is happening it needs to stop. When Leslie Stahl pushed, he said look, I am going to look straight into the camera and say "stop it".
I don't usually watch video links, especially long ones, but this one was really good. It is one of the very very very rare times that I recommend someone watch a 60 minutes episode. But you and everyone, especially liberals, should watch it.
You make my point. In this day and age of cell phone video, don't you think "Trump supporters" committing acts of violence and saying racial slurs would be wallpapered all over social media?
This isn't happening. Yet Stahl wants Trump to buy into HER narrative, and respond to it.
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In either case (President-Elect Trump telling his supporters to stop it or telling the violent protesters to stop it), it is appropriate for him to tell them to stop it.
Has anyone seen the liberal "leadership" tell the violent protesters to stop it?
(yes, I'm deliberately saying "violent" because I believe people have a right to protest peaceably no matter how misguided their protest is.)
Bernie has said something about it, don't know the exact quote.
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Bernie has said something about it, don't know the exact quote.
If true, then good for Bernie. (and shame shame shame on the rest of the DNC)
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You make my point. In this day and age of cell phone video, don't you think "Trump supporters" committing acts of violence and saying racial slurs would be wallpapered all over social media?
This isn't happening. Yet Stahl wants Trump to buy into HER narrative, and respond to it.
I don't say this often, but I do give Leslie Stahl credit for respectfully giving Trump a chance to respond to his critics. At least, that's the way I saw it.
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I don't say this often, but I do give Leslie Stahl credit for respectfully giving Trump a chance to respond to his critics. At least, that's the way I saw it.
Right.... :o
"Mr Trump, some people say you pull the legs off kittens for your personal amusement; how do you respond to that?"
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I don't do Twitter but am keeping watch online of DJT'S tweets. Today ....
2h2 hours ago
Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump
The Electoral College is actually genius in that it brings all states, including the smaller ones, into play. Campaigning is much different!
If the election were based on total popular vote I would have campaigned in N.Y. Florida and California and won even bigger and more easily
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I wish someone would take away President-elect Trump's twitter account.
I keep thinking about the West Wing episode, "The U.S. Poet Laureate" where the Josh Lyman character discovers the internet
http://www.westwingtranscripts.com/search.php?flag=getTranscript&id=61
C.J.
Oh Josh!
JOSH
Yeah?
He turns and waits as she walks towards him.
C.J.
The Federal Page of the Washington Post just called Carol to confirm that
you're the
Josh Lyman who stated on an Internet website that the White House could
order a GAO
review on anything it wants.
JOSH
Without threatening the separation of powers is what I was saying.
C.J.
You posted on a web site?
Donna emerges from a door behind C.J., and they exchange a look.
JOSH
I was communicating with the people.
C.J.
Really?
Josh is momentarily distracted watching Donna walk past him into his
office. Then he
steps closer to C.J. and speaks in a hushed voice.
JOSH
C.J., it's a... crazy place. It's got this dictatorial leader, who I'm sure
wears a muumuu
and chain smokes Parliaments. [makes a smoking gesture with his fingers]
C.J.
What did you go there for in the first place?
JOSH
It's called LemonLyman.com.
C.J. gives him a pointed shove in the direction of his office. They walk a
few paces and
stop outside the doorway.
C.J.
Let me explain something to you, this is sort of my field. The people on
these sites?
They're the cast of "One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest."
Donna picks up her jacket inside the office and walks out between the two
of them.
C.J. [cont]
The muumuu wearing Parliament smoker? That's Nurse Ratched. When Nurse
Ratched is unhappy,
the patients are unhappy. You? You're McMurphy. You swoop in there with your
card games
and your fishing trips...
JOSH
[shrugging defensively] I didn't swoop in, I came in exactly the same way
everybody else did.
C.J.
Well, now I'm telling you to open the ward room window and climb on out
before they give you
a pre-frontal lobotomy, and I have to smother you with a pillow.
Josh regards her in silence for a moment.
JOSH
You're Chief Brom-
C.J.
I'm Chief Bromden, yes, at this particular moment. I'm assigning an intern
from the press
office to that web site. They're going to check it every night before they
go home. If they
discover you've been there, I'm going to shove a motherboard so far up your
ass...
Josh looks down at the floor.
C.J.
What?
JOSH
[with a slight shrug] Well... technically, I outrank you.
C.J.
[shouting] So far up your ass!
JOSH
[quickly] Okay.
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In typical progressive fashion, over half of all 'protesters' arrested are not registered to vote and did not vote last week.
Portland, Ore.—More than half of the anti-Trump protesters arrested in Portland didn’t vote in Oregon, according to state election records.
At least sixty-nine demonstrators either didn’t turn in a ballot or weren’t registered to vote in the state.
KGW compiled a list of the 112 people arrested by the Portland Police Bureau during recent protests. Those names and ages, provided by police, were then compared to state voter logs by Multnomah County Elections officials.
Records show 34 of the protesters arrested didn’t return a ballot for the November 8 election. Thirty-five of the demonstrators taken into custody weren’t registered to vote in Oregon.
http://www.kgw.com/news/local/more-than-half-of-arrested-anti-trump-protesters-didnt-vote/351964445
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In typical progressive fashion, over half of all 'protesters' arrested are not registered to vote and did not vote last week.
Portland, Ore.—More than half of the anti-Trump protesters arrested in Portland didn’t vote in Oregon, according to state election records.
At least sixty-nine demonstrators either didn’t turn in a ballot or weren’t registered to vote in the state.
KGW compiled a list of the 112 people arrested by the Portland Police Bureau during recent protests. Those names and ages, provided by police, were then compared to state voter logs by Multnomah County Elections officials.
Records show 34 of the protesters arrested didn’t return a ballot for the November 8 election. Thirty-five of the demonstrators taken into custody weren’t registered to vote in Oregon.
http://www.kgw.com/news/local/more-than-half-of-arrested-anti-trump-protesters-didnt-vote/351964445
But she was supposed to win! She deserved to be first women president
Maybe the protesters should complain about the ability of CNN et al to influence predict the election results.
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Rush predicted that the majority of the 'protesters' would turn out to be paid, not have voted, and too lazy to register.
It looks like he will have been right about all three.
As I said in another thread, if CIA, FBI, DHS, or some other investigative branch of the US Government can prove that Soros is hiring people to attack American citizens, then he should be treated every other terrorist and shot on sight.
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But she was supposed to win! She deserved to be first women president
Maybe the protesters should complain about the ability of CNN et al to influence predict the election results.
Hillary's campaign song:
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I wish someone would take away President-elect Trump's twitter account.
I keep thinking about the West Wing episode, "The U.S. Poet Laureate" where the Josh Lyman character discovers the internet
http://www.westwingtranscripts.com/search.php?flag=getTranscript&id=61
I remember that episode, it was funny. Josh's character was great and I enjoyed the humor throughout the entire series.
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I remember that episode, it was funny. Josh's character was great and I enjoyed the humor throughout the entire series.
All seasons are available on Netflix.
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https://mobile.twitter.com/bfraser747/status/799210271281541120/video/1