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Title: Anti-Semitism On Campus
Post by: Mase on September 18, 2016, 09:58:47 AM
So much for tolerance and non-discrimination:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/acts-of-faith/wp/2016/09/15/in-the-safe-spaces-on-campus-no-jews-allowed/?wpisrc=nl_az_most (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/acts-of-faith/wp/2016/09/15/in-the-safe-spaces-on-campus-no-jews-allowed/?wpisrc=nl_az_most)

For Mokhtarzadeh, an Iranian Jew at UCLA, her freshman year was punctuated by incidents of anti-Semitism that were both personal and met with national controversy. She was shocked during her first quarter in school, when students entered the Bruin Cafe to see the phrase “Hitler did nothing wrong” etched into a table. Months later, Mokhtarzadeh’s friend Rachel Beyda was temporarily denied a student government leadership position based solely on her Jewish identity, an event that made news nationwide.
Title: Re: Anti-Semitisn On Campus
Post by: Anthony on September 18, 2016, 10:05:39 AM
I find these incidents of anti-Semitism really disturbing, and knowing the history of the Holocaust, and prejudice against Jews here in the U.S., I just don't understand it.  What is behind it?  Is it Muslim/Islamic sympathy, but young people that don't know history, or know any better?  What are they trying to accomplish?
Title: Re: Anti-Semitisn On Campus
Post by: Lucifer on September 18, 2016, 10:20:39 AM
I find these incidents of anti-Semitism really disturbing, and knowing the history of the Holocaust, and prejudice against Jews here in the U.S., I just don't understand it.  What is behind it?  Is it Muslim/Islamic sympathy, but young people that don't know history, or know any better?  What are they trying to accomplish?

It's "divide and conquer" brought to you by radical groups.  Cloward and Piven as well as Saul Alinsky have written about this.
Title: Re: Anti-Semitism On Campus
Post by: bflynn on September 18, 2016, 04:23:23 PM
So, Berkley, the bastion of Progressive Liberal thought, thinks that discrimination against people based on religion and national heritage is OK.

The Left is heading toward convincing themselves that a purge is necessary.  That happens when you isolate yourself and only listen to the echo of your own voice.
Title: Re: Anti-Semitism On Campus
Post by: Steingar on September 19, 2016, 06:56:17 AM
I can't ever recall suffering an instance of anti-semitism on a University campus in my entire career.  Outside of one, definitely.
Title: Re: Anti-Semitism On Campus
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on September 19, 2016, 11:28:00 AM
I can't ever recall suffering an instance of anti-semitism on a University campus in my entire career.  Outside of one, definitely.
Why do you think that might be?
Title: Re: Anti-Semitism On Campus
Post by: Steingar on September 19, 2016, 11:32:30 AM
Why do you think that might be?

One possibility that comes to mind is if you interact with or meet someone of an ethnic or religious persuasion it is far more difficult to ascribe to them the characteristics of stereotype.  Those that function in and attend University tend to be a bit more worldly that those who don't, and are more likely to have interacted with ethnic and religious minorities, putting behind them pervasive stereotypes. 

Could be I just got lucky.
Title: Re: Anti-Semitism On Campus
Post by: bflynn on September 19, 2016, 12:57:55 PM
One possibility that comes to mind is if you interact with or meet someone of an ethnic or religious persuasion it is far more difficult to ascribe to them the characteristics of stereotype.  Those that function in and attend University tend to be a bit more worldly that those who don't, and are more likely to have interacted with ethnic and religious minorities, putting behind them pervasive stereotypes. 

Could be I just got lucky.

I think you're pretty right on.  Same goes for the military, after having traveled extensively, you realize that people are people.  International companies too.

It is only through segregation and isolation that we don't learn about others and then start to fear them.  If everyone around you says the same thing you do, it isn't because they're right because you're only hearing one side.
Title: Re: Anti-Semitism On Campus
Post by: Lucifer on September 20, 2016, 05:45:07 AM
  Those that function in and attend University tend to be a bit more worldly that those who don't

Now that is a laughable statement if there ever was one.

So perfesser, being such a "worldly man", tell us which countries and parts of the world you have lived and worked in (not just vacationed)?

 
Title: Re: Anti-Semitism On Campus
Post by: Steingar on September 20, 2016, 06:00:28 AM
Now that is a laughable statement if there ever was one.

So perfesser, being such a "worldly man", tell us which countries and parts of the world you have lived and worked in (not just vacationed)?

Those who attend University must have or have access to the resources to pay tuition, which is breathtakingly expensive.  Thus they will have or at least tend to have resources for travel.  Moreover, many relocate for school.  Certainly not all, but many.

As for yours truly, I present a poor example of worldliness, since I have only lived in 5 American cities and traveled to similar number of nations in Europe and the Americas.  I did do a 2 month sojourn in Mexico on my motorcycle, and do recommend travel to anyone.  Opens your eyes.  All my travel has been for work, the only vacation I take is Oshkosh.  Since I'm a pilot I expend my resources on my airplane, and don't take all the trips I might like.  The nut is only so big.
Title: Re: Anti-Semitism On Campus
Post by: bflynn on September 20, 2016, 07:19:39 AM
Now that is a laughable statement if there ever was one.

So perfesser, being such a "worldly man", tell us which countries and parts of the world you have lived and worked in (not just vacationed)?

It's not an odd thing.

I have worked in the US, Canada, UK, India, France and the Netherlands.  In the US, I've worked extended time periods in Minneapolis, LA, Dallas, Chicago, South Bend, Atlanta and Providence and I can drive in each city without a map.  I've worked in probably two dozen other cities besides those, flown (passenger) into 47 different airport and lived in at least 8 states - I've lost count.  There are also 8 states that I have never been to for one reason or another.  Yes, I'm including vacations, but it's been mostly work. 

People are just people.  It's when you shut yourself away from others that problems develop.  If everyone around you says the same thing, you need to expand your group of people.  Minds are like parachutes, they only function when they're open.  Too many closed minded people on both sides.
Title: Re: Anti-Semitism On Campus
Post by: Number7 on September 20, 2016, 07:24:28 AM
It is exceedingly odd that liberals are so determined to live in an echo chamber where the only views they are exposed to are the ones they hold. That type of incestuous politics is self defeating as we have seen as the far left gets closer and closer to idiocracy. The narrow minded, blame everything on your political enemy and never accept responsibility for a single thing, mentality is undoing the stranglehold progressive liberals have had on things but it just takes time to undo all the ignorance and moral equivalency that they have been force feeding America for decades.
Title: Re: Anti-Semitism On Campus
Post by: bflynn on September 20, 2016, 10:10:08 AM
It is exceedingly odd that liberals are so determined to live in an echo chamber where the only views they are exposed to are the ones they hold. That type of incestuous politics is self defeating as we have seen as the far left gets closer and closer to idiocracy. The narrow minded, blame everything on your political enemy and never accept responsibility for as single thing, mentality is undoing the stranglehold progressives liberals have had on things but it just takes time to undo all the ignorance and moral equivalency that they have been force feeding America for decades.

Let's be fair - it is not only the Left that does this.  They just seem to excel at doing it.
Title: Re: Anti-Semitisn On Campus
Post by: nddons on September 20, 2016, 07:27:17 PM
I find these incidents of anti-Semitism really disturbing, and knowing the history of the Holocaust, and prejudice against Jews here in the U.S., I just don't understand it.  What is behind it?  Is it Muslim/Islamic sympathy, but young people that don't know history, or know any better?  What are they trying to accomplish?
I agree.  It is troubling, and it seems like it's getting really bad.  I think the progressives somehow sympathize with the Palestinians, and after such indoctrination, especially of our youth, hatred of the Jews just follows. 
Title: Re: Anti-Semitism On Campus
Post by: Number7 on September 21, 2016, 10:07:19 AM
Progressives have become what their politics emulate which is Nazi-ism.
Progressives are far more comfortable placing limits on the free exchange of ideas than they are of allowing non-progressive ideas to have equal access and respect.
Look at the pro-life movement. It has become torturous to try and promote prolife ideals because progressive politicians and judges use the bench to thwart free speech at every turn.
Schools and particularly universities stamp out mmgw skeptics with impunity and attack those who dare to speak out about the elimination of alternative theories and science.
Government constantly plays favorites with grants and regulations to benefit only one side of the argument and academics (communists) support criminalizing dissenting opinions.
Progressives are moving rapidly towards pogroms. Their entire movement is towards violence against those that they have been told to hate and Jews just happen to be part of that core. Pro-lifers, Christians, Conservatives and business owners are also among those in that "basket' of deplorables.
Wait for it.
One day soon the psychotic piece of shit, Farrakhan will become even louder and uglier about hating Jews and progressives will sit on their hands and remain mute until the killing starts.
Title: Re: Anti-Semitism On Campus
Post by: bflynn on September 21, 2016, 11:48:41 AM
The Left is working toward convincing themselves that a purge is necessary.  To some extent they've already started it, conservatives are marginalized in all kinds of environments.