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Spin Zone / Re: Independence Day
« on: July 04, 2021, 11:48:46 AM »
I heard a nice comment today.

Why are there no knock, knock jokes about the United States?


Freedom rings!

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Spin Zone / Re: Have You Ever...
« on: July 03, 2021, 08:12:17 AM »
Seen a black lives matters group feeding poor, underprivileged children?
Teaching young black men to be good fathers and husbands?
Helping clean up the ghettos torched by the rioters?
Volunteering as big brothers/big sisters?
Actually working at improving their neighborhoods?

Doing anything other than rioting, burning, whining, bitching, lying, or attacking anyone that dares not pretend to agree with them?

Just asking for a friend...

Those activities are not profitable.  In fact they often cost money.   BLM is only interested in Extorting hundreds of millions of dollars so they can use it for personal gain and buying influence.  All others pound sand.

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Spin Zone / Re: NSA Spying on Tucker Carlson
« on: July 01, 2021, 04:21:25 AM »
Image posting hint. Add a width attribute to the IMG tag to control the sizing. Inside the opening brackets, it should say.   IMG width=800     Example



The number can be anything you want, this one is 500

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Spin Zone / Re: NSA Spying on Tucker Carlson
« on: June 29, 2021, 11:15:26 AM »
They did it to Sheryl Atkisson and the senior DC correspondent from Fox News, James Rosen whom I also really like.

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Spin Zone / Re: Covidiocy Continued
« on: June 27, 2021, 08:44:28 AM »
It isn't the FDA that is deplatforming anyone, nor any medical agency that I'm aware of.  That's being done by Leftists who operate their lives out of fear, jealousy and guilt.  If you conflate the politics of the Left wanting to control with the ineptness of large bureaucracies, then I can understand confusion on the matter, but really they're different things.   

No, it's gone well past trial into use.

Long term...is long term.  Nobody really know what the impact of any particular new treatment is long term, because it's new.  However there are no indications right now of any issues and I'd like to think that if there were, they would have started to manifested by now. 

There's no question the vaccines work.  There's roughly 4100 breakthrough cases out of 150 million fully vaccinated people - 0.002% or 0.00002. 

Historically, there has never been a vaccine that had hidden effects that didn't show up in at least some of the population within a year.  If there are long term effects, we should have seen some kind of trend by now, but there's just nothing there.

Is that proof of a negative?  No, a negative cannot be proven and there will never be proof of no long term effects...unless you want to define how long "long term" is and wait for that time to pass.  However, it is showing that nothing has happened yet and that's the best that can be accomplished right now.  Unless you're going to go to conspiracy and insist that the reason we can't see that there's nothing there is because it's all been hidden from us by "them".

I've worked in govt jobs in the past.  Trust me, nobody in the government is interested in hiding anything because nobody want to put their job or retirement at risk.  You can barely get those people to do their jobs, let alone get them to be involved in a massive conspiracy that magically never leaks.  I mean, 3 people knew about Monica Lewinsky and Bill Clinton and two of them were involved in the act.  That still leaked.  A government trying to hide all the evidence of a vaccine problem?  No, there are way too many people involved.

Medical agencies have been complicit in downplaying or covering up alternative treatments and vaccine side effects.

Politics of the left and ineptness of large bureaucracies? Check. They richly have earned our distrust. Huge factor in falling in with anything coming down the pike from them for years to come now.

Yes, it’s new. But it’s not a “treatment.” It’s not even technically a vaccine.

“No indications of any issues?” Have you not been looking at all sides of this thing, including the many doctors and journalists putting their careers on the line to speak out? Have you not read any of the links in this very thread and in other threads about the effects showing up and the shifting narrative generated therefrom?

For you to say that “there’s nothing there” shows a level of two-dimensional thinking and lack of research.

My iPad is stuffed with links and videos and my husband and I discuss this issue endlessly. We are not fools. You may say I should not trust what I’m reading but if you did, you’d be dismissing actual experts in the field of virology and medicine.

I’m very surprised you’d say repeatedly in your post that “there’s nothing there.” There is.

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Spin Zone / Re: How To Handle Reparations...
« on: June 25, 2021, 06:20:01 PM »
I could entertain the idea of reparations, but only in the form of improved schools in predominately black areas (whites in those areas could attend too).  The main thing holding blacks back is lack of education and lack of realization that they can actually succeed in White America.  And anyone with two brain cells will admit that there has been tremendous racism in this country that has held blacks back for a long time.  I believe this situation is a million times better than it was, but blacks are still at a social and cultural disadvantage.  That is not MY fault, but it isn't (always) THEIR fault either. 

Cultural change takes a long time, as in several generations, but I feel we are on the brink of seeing a sea-change in racial attitudes.  You can see it all around you, but we are at a risk of setting that all back by the current guilt-ridden anti-white leftists that feel blacks can't help themselves.  They can, but they need the tools, and the primary tool is education.

The right kinds of education and then they need jobs when they get out of school. Education doesn’t help if the economy sucks.

Also America has failed by not providing enough trade schools, and by emphasizing worthless liberal arts degrees. They steer everyone into trying to be doctors lawyers and social workers but STEM is where the real opportunities are for those with the brains and trade school for those who don’t and I’m sorry the truth is not everyone is cut out for the professions. Black and white, some kids simply cannot succeed in higher education but this country has failed to provide good education in welding, carpentry, electrician, mechanics, etc.

Because as Lucifer pointed out, education is controlled by leftists, who are completely out of touch with the needs of the country and in total denial that Trump’s policies of improving the economy and providing opportunities in the inner cities was actually the right approach.

You are right something needs to be done about those disadvantaged from the legacy of racism. Just like the poor whites in Appalachia, there’s an inbreeding problem in the cities. Generations trapped in public housing zones dependent on government where the males have abandoned fatherhood and found their only opportunities are in gangs and drug sales. 

You can send them to school but where is the job when they get out? Trump had the LOWEST black unemployment in decades. How? Loosening restrictions on business, most especially the small business tax break, and supporting the energy industry which is the true engine of the economy. Then focused help for specific poor communities. We were on the right track. No more, certainly not with this sick, demented administration.


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Spin Zone / Re: How To Handle Reparations...
« on: June 25, 2021, 05:57:40 PM »
I could entertain the idea of reparations, but only in the form of improved schools in predominately black areas (whites in those areas could attend too).  The main thing holding blacks back is lack of education and lack of realization that they can actually succeed in White America.  And anyone with two brain cells will admit that there has been tremendous racism in this country that has held blacks back for a long time.  I believe this situation is a million times better than it was, but blacks are still at a social and cultural disadvantage.  That is not MY fault, but it isn't (always) THEIR fault either.


Yeah, let's try bussing again.   ::)

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Spin Zone / Re: How To Handle Reparations...
« on: June 25, 2021, 05:39:43 PM »
The ONE thing holding back inner city black citizens is the democrat (communist) party.

As long as nancy the pig pelosi thinks she can keep blacks as her bitch, she and up=chuck will continue to use them .

The minute a significant population of blacks walk away, she will treat them she treats republicans and everyone else.

The real slave plantation is the democrat (communist) party.

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Spin Zone / Re: How To Handle Reparations...
« on: June 25, 2021, 05:25:15 PM »
I could entertain the idea of reparations, but only in the form of improved schools in predominately black areas (whites in those areas could attend too).  The main thing holding blacks back is lack of education and lack of realization that they can actually succeed in White America.  And anyone with two brain cells will admit that there has been tremendous racism in this country that has held blacks back for a long time.  I believe this situation is a million times better than it was, but blacks are still at a social and cultural disadvantage.  That is not MY fault, but it isn't (always) THEIR fault either. 

Cultural change takes a long time, as in several generations, but I feel we are on the brink of seeing a sea-change in racial attitudes.  You can see it all around you, but we are at a risk of setting that all back by the current guilt-ridden anti-white leftists that feel blacks can't help themselves.  They can, but they need the tools, and the primary tool is education.

To paraphrase Number7, that is fucking, Leftist DRIVEL, with a few crumbs thrown in to get some off the actual substance.  Did your wife make you post that?

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Spin Zone / Re: How To Handle Reparations...
« on: June 25, 2021, 11:19:10 AM »
I could entertain the idea of reparations, but only in the form of improved schools in predominately black areas (whites in those areas could attend too).  The main thing holding blacks back is lack of education and lack of realization that they can actually succeed in White America.  And anyone with two brain cells will admit that there has been tremendous racism in this country that has held blacks back for a long time.  I believe this situation is a million times better than it was, but blacks are still at a social and cultural disadvantage.  That is not MY fault, but it isn't (always) THEIR fault either. 

Cultural change takes a long time, as in several generations, but I feel we are on the brink of seeing a sea-change in racial attitudes.  You can see it all around you, but we are at a risk of setting that all back by the current guilt-ridden anti-white leftists that feel blacks can't help themselves.  They can, but they need the tools, and the primary tool is education.
If you have the MSM constantly telling you the deck is stacked against you.........

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Spin Zone / Re: Covidiocy Continued
« on: June 25, 2021, 10:15:28 AM »
So because you don't trust them, they must be hiding things.  Otherwise they would be open with it all and you would trust them.  Is that your logic or did I get something wrong?

There’s an eerie implacableness about the medical community’s stance(s) on the vaccine.

“Just get it. It’s safe. Problems are rare. This or that person would have died/had that weird disease appear suddenly/had tremors/had that blood clot …” ad infinitum.

On the other hand, doctors definitely are questioning it, especially as long-term effects are not known. But they’re being deplatformed and demonized.

It isn’t even really a trial, it’s something outside that, because millions are getting it but effects and reactions and deaths are NOT RELIABLY being assiduously recorded and studied, as would be the case in a typical years-long controlled trial. This is admitted. The VAERS system is not reliable and doctors now are refusing to “get involved” with claims from their patients who insist their problem started after being vaxxed.

So no, I don’t trust these agencies and companies. Change my mind.

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Spin Zone / Re: Covidiocy Continued
« on: June 25, 2021, 09:27:58 AM »
About 3/4 of the way through … her CBS affiliate arranged to have more cars and people in the testing line to stoke fear.

Testing site worker: “We knew they [CBS crew] were coming, but we didn’t know we would have fake patients.”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0GkXCYsfY_8


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Spin Zone / Re: Covidiocy Continued
« on: June 24, 2021, 02:35:22 PM »
Yea, just a coincidence..
Yep  8)

or

You make a neat new biological weapon to release on the world and need a vaccine for most of your own people.
BTW, notice that said Scientist died in May, one might presume he completed his part, the vaccine.  ::)

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