Post by: bflynn on January 12, 2018, 06:26:21 AM
I guess those countries agree because they self identified themselves in the president's comment.
Post by: Little Joe on January 12, 2018, 06:52:46 AM
Did anyone else notice that when the president said "Sh**hole" countries, he didn't name any names. But a lot of countries got upset.If he really said that it was very unprofessional and unpresidential.
I guess those countries agree because they self identified themselves in the president's comment.
Did he really say it?
Remember when the press claimed “bigly” when he really said “big league” and they knew it?
Post by: Lucifer on January 12, 2018, 07:14:10 AM
Post by: bflynn on January 12, 2018, 07:17:46 AM
I will have to disagree...the fact that the president said it MAKES IT presidential. I think what you meant to say is that it doesn't meet your expectation of how the president should act.
It was descriptive of the countries. Apparently there are quite a few counties who believe it about themselves. Failure to speak the truth is a form of lying.
Post by: asechrest on January 12, 2018, 07:27:11 AM
Well, I wasn't there, but I do see the liberal media jumping up and down with glee so at least they believe he really said it.
I will have to disagree...the fact that the president said it MAKES IT presidential. I think what you meant to say is that it doesn't meet your expectation of how the president should act.
It was descriptive of the countries. Apparently there are quite a few counties who believe it about themselves. Failure to speak the truth is a form of lying.
If the president said "kiss my lilly white dick, you whore", and spit in your face, would that be presidential? The term presidential, as Little Joe used it, has a common definition that involves dignity that would befit a president. Anyway, as the news is telling it, specific regions were mentioned, and Trump allegedly asked why we allow people from shithole countries to come here. So the folks in those regions are naturally assuming Trump is including them in the labeling. Just as we might assume someone was talking about us if they were talking about shithole countries in the West.
But who knows if Trump even said it, so I'm having trouble getting worked up about the whole thing.
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Post by: Lucifer on January 12, 2018, 07:43:44 AM
Post by: Jaybird180 on January 12, 2018, 07:58:46 AM
Post by: President in Exile YOLT on January 12, 2018, 08:43:44 AM
The term presidential, as Little Joe used it, has a common definition that involves dignity that would befit a president.
Ever heard tapes of LBJ and Nixon?
Post by: Number7 on January 12, 2018, 08:54:50 AM
whatever is actually happening off stage is far worse for the country than anything our President may have said, or not said, and the liberals are trying desperately to turn the narrative away from it.
Post by: Little Joe on January 12, 2018, 08:56:40 AM
Ever heard tapes of LBJ and Nixon?Good point. If the press had reported the words they used, this would look like kindergarten.
I don't know if he said it or not, but even if he did, I don't care. Those countries are shitholes.
Post by: Number7 on January 12, 2018, 08:58:19 AM
Post by: asechrest on January 12, 2018, 09:06:10 AM
Ever heard tapes of LBJ and Nixon?
Yeah. Doesn't change my answer. Don't mistake that answer for my caring whether Trump used "shithole" or not.
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on January 12, 2018, 09:32:27 AM
The Spectator covers it brilliantly here.
https://spectator.org/importing-the-s-hole/
"The open-borders crowd doesn’t want to talk about that, though, and it wants to call you racist if you’re opposed to a deluge of immigrants from the worst places on earth. That’s why Trump’s “s***holes” objection is big news rather than the fact there are so-called political leaders who can’t agree to reorient our immigration policy toward taking people who can successfully assimilate here.
Between the two, the crude man who tells the truth and looks out for his own citizens is preferable to the genteel man who sells us out for cheap labor or ballot-box fuel for a political machine. If Trump is the former, so be it."
Post by: invflatspin on January 12, 2018, 09:33:52 AM
The problem is unchecked and useless immigrants. Everyone outside the US hates us - but when they see even a tiny chance to get in this country, legal or not - they jump at it. And once here - the ones who came in illegally will use every method legal or otherwise to stay here rather than having to go back to their SHITHOLE.
NO more immigrants. Fix your own SHITHOLE, or live in it. That goes for Haiti, Mexico, all of central America, Africa, the entire ME, and most of SE Asia.
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on January 12, 2018, 11:17:13 AM
Post by: nddons on January 12, 2018, 11:24:24 AM
If those countries are not shit holes then surely all of those folks would proudly go back home.Yes! Tucker Carlson was making that point with some immigrant advocate yesterday. He was saying that Trump certainly wasn’t talking about Sweden.
Of course, the advocate turned it around to race (shocking) and said Trump was calling the brown people shit, not the countries. Cute and typical loser tactic.
He asked the guy why people aren’t going back to Haiti.
Post by: asechrest on January 12, 2018, 12:33:33 PM
Yes! Tucker Carlson was making that point with some immigrant advocate yesterday. He was saying that Trump certainly wasn’t talking about Sweden.
Of course, the advocate turned it around to race (shocking) and said Trump was calling the brown people shit, not the countries. Cute and typical loser tactic.
He asked the guy why people aren’t going back to Haiti.
Everything is racist, don't you know? I sure do get sick of the absurdity.
Some lady came out against James Franco yesterday. Gave an interview with a reporter saying that Franco tried to get her to perform oral sex on him in a car. Oh and by the way, they were in a CONSENSUAL sexual relationship before and long after the "incident".
There's a name for that. No no, not sexual harassment. I think it's called she's-not-in-the-mood-today.
Post by: nddons on January 12, 2018, 12:47:37 PM
Everything is racist, don't you know? I sure do get sick of the absurdity.Catherine Deneuve, smoking hot in her day, spoke about this phenomenon. Good for her.
Some lady came out against James Franco yesterday. Gave an interview with a reporter saying that Franco tried to get her to perform oral sex on him in a car. Oh and by the way, they were in a CONSENSUAL sexual relationship before and long after the "incident".
There's a name for that. No no, not sexual harassment. I think it's called she's-not-in-the-mood-today.
http://www.cnn.com/2018/01/10/europe/catherine-deneuve-france-letter-metoo-intl/index.html
Post by: Rush on January 12, 2018, 03:23:15 PM
The context is important, although I, too, have trouble getting worked up over this event, mostly because we have long needed the truth to be spoken in the public forum.
The Spectator covers it brilliantly here.
https://spectator.org/importing-the-s-hole/
"The open-borders crowd doesn’t want to talk about that, though, and it wants to call you racist if you’re opposed to a deluge of immigrants from the worst places on earth. That’s why Trump’s “s***holes” objection is big news rather than the fact there are so-called political leaders who can’t agree to reorient our immigration policy toward taking people who can successfully assimilate here.
Between the two, the crude man who tells the truth and looks out for his own citizens is preferable to the genteel man who sells us out for cheap labor or ballot-box fuel for a political machine. If Trump is the former, so be it."
Well put the last paragraph is what I tried to say but got busy.
Post by: Rush on January 12, 2018, 03:29:08 PM
Catherine Deneuve, smoking hot in her day, spoke about this phenomenon. Good for her.
http://www.cnn.com/2018/01/10/europe/catherine-deneuve-france-letter-metoo-intl/index.html
Probably the only woman on earth I'd have gone gay for.
Post by: Number7 on January 12, 2018, 03:32:30 PM
How odd....
Dick Durbin has lies about conversations in to attack republicans before. I doubt he changed his tactics. He is, after all, a liberal democrat.
Post by: Anthony on January 12, 2018, 03:39:42 PM
Probably the only woman on earth I'd have gone gay for.
I was more of a Raquel Welch guy.
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on January 13, 2018, 05:24:19 AM
I was more of a Raquel Welch guy.
Wait.......you'd have gone gay for Raquel Welch!! :D
Post by: bflynn on January 13, 2018, 06:28:02 AM
Wait.......you'd have gone gay for Raquel Welch!! :D
Well, if she asked him really, really nicely.... ;D
Post by: nddons on January 13, 2018, 06:49:35 AM
Probably the only woman on earth I'd have gone gay for.
I was more of a Raquel Welch guy.Watch Grumpy Old Men or Grumpier Old Men. Ann Margaret and Sophia Loren are still smoking hot.
Rush? What say you?
Post by: Lucifer on January 13, 2018, 07:02:04 AM
Quote
Abraham Lincoln: "There is nothing to make an Englishman shit quicker than the sight of General George Washington."
Barack Obama: “Obama really drew the ire of the pious, calling opponent Mitt Romney a ‘bullshitter.’ Sometimes the dirty word is the most precise.”
Joe Biden: "This is a big f**king deal."
Dick Cheney: “Cheney reportedly told Vermont Senator Patrick Leahy to ‘go f**k [himself]’”
George W. Bush: “Commented on the presence of New York Times reporter Adam Clymer. Believing he had an audience of one, Bush called Clymer a ‘major-league asshole.’”
Barack Obama: "I don't think I should take any sh*t from anybody on that, do you?"
Richard Nixon: “The Watergate tapes put the phrase ‘expletive deleted’ on the map.”
Lyndon Johnson: "I do know the difference between chicken sh*t and chicken salad,"
John F. Kennedy: "This is obviously a f**k-up."
Harry Truman: “In Truman's eyes, General Douglas MacArthur was a "dumb son of a bitch," and Nixon was ‘a shifty-eyed goddamned liar.’”
Post by: Lucifer on January 13, 2018, 07:03:56 AM
Post by: Rush on January 13, 2018, 08:30:09 AM
Watch Grumpy Old Men or Grumpier Old Men. Ann Margaret and Sophia Loren are still smoking hot.
Rush? What say you?
Yes they were hot. But my preference would have been Omar Sharif.
Post by: nddons on January 13, 2018, 11:16:04 AM
Yes they were hot. But my preference would have been Omar Sharif.Killjoy.
Post by: Anthony on January 13, 2018, 11:19:57 AM
Wait.......you'd have gone gay for Raquel Welch!! :D
Since I'm a male, and Ms. Welch a female, I don't see how that is possible, but I don't pretend to know the other side of the street as perhaps you do. :)
LOL!
Post by: bflynn on January 13, 2018, 04:15:13 PM
Since I'm a male, and Ms. Welch a female, I don't see how that is possible, but I don't pretend to know the other side of the street as perhaps you do. :)
LOL!
This was the logic...
Probably the only woman on earth I'd have gone gay for.
I was more of a Raquel Welch guy.
Post by: LevelWing on January 14, 2018, 04:38:13 AM
Quote from: The Editors/National Review
Of course, many of the countries that Trump was talking about — the accounts are fuzzy, but reports suggest he was talking about sub-Saharan nations, and perhaps Haiti — really are basket-cases. One argument from the left for not sending back beneficiaries of so-called Temporary Protected Status to Haiti and El Salvador is that those nations are so terribly dysfunctional and violent.
...
This is what set Trump off. He wondered why we instead can’t bring in immigrants from a place like Norway, presumably having that country on his mind after the visit this week by the country’s prime minister. This has been taken as Trump’s admission that he wants white immigrants instead of dark-skinned ones. What he was almost certainly trying to get at, in his typically confused way, is that we’d be better off with immigrants with higher skills.
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/455421/donald-trump-comments-haiti-africa-hurt-immigration-agenda
Post by: Anthony on January 14, 2018, 06:30:19 AM
This was the logic...
Well here was my logic.
Raquel Welch > Catherine Denueve
Post by: Rush on January 14, 2018, 06:39:35 AM
Well here was my logic.
Raquel Welch > Catherine Denueve
I could never go for Raquel Welch. Somebody told me once I looked like her. So that would be like my twin sister *gag*vomit*.
Of course that was 45 years ago.
Post by: Jaybird180 on January 14, 2018, 09:01:31 AM
Post by: LevelWing on January 14, 2018, 09:09:23 AM
If you see LevelWing’s latest quote and comment then the reference maybe clearThe majority of those revolve around taking from person A in order to give to person B (money) in order to give them a benefit. Not to get too far off topic (though with the other side conversations it doesn't really matter, I suppose), but no one is entitled to free healthcare, birth control, vacation, parental leave, etc. for free. We all make choices in life and there are responsibilities that come with those choices. People choose to have sex, people choose to have children, people choose to go on vacation. And while people certainly don't choose to get sick, you are not entitled to someone else's labor for free.
I have yet to see a compelling argument for anything on that list to be brought here. Let's also not forget that Norway's population is approximately 5.2 million compared to the U.S.' population of well over 300 million.
Post by: Lucifer on January 14, 2018, 09:09:34 AM
If you see LevelWing’s latest quote and comment then the reference maybe clear
I know lots of Norwegians that have immigrated to the US.
That healthcare they get is not "free", it's paid through heavy taxation. Same with those other "freebies". Remember, government doesn't do anything that produces income other than taking it at the point of a gun from the citizens.
Post by: Little Joe on January 14, 2018, 10:48:06 AM
If you see LevelWing’s latest quote and comment then the reference maybe clearAlso remember that Norway's main source of revenue is oil exploitation; something the liberals in this country hate. But Trump is trying to fix that here.
Post by: Number7 on January 14, 2018, 01:45:54 PM
If you see LevelWing’s latest quote and comment then the reference maybe clear
Only if you are a parasite, or socialist.. I guess I am repeating myself.
Post by: nddons on January 15, 2018, 09:53:52 AM
Also remember that Norway's main source of revenue is oil exploitation; something the liberals in this country hate. But Trump is trying to fix that here.And I believe that it is state-owned. However, North Sea oil reserves are being consumed rapidly. I wonder what will happen in this workers paradise when the North Sea oil runs out.
Post by: bflynn on January 15, 2018, 10:36:14 AM
If you see LevelWing’s latest quote and comment then the reference maybe clear
You seem to operate under the illusion that there is always enough money to pay for all this stuff.
What is your vision of what happens if the money isn’t there? How much of your comfort are you willing to give up?
Post by: Anthony on January 15, 2018, 12:01:25 PM
And I believe that it is state-owned. However, North Sea oil reserves are being consumed rapidly. I wonder what will happen in this workers paradise when the North Sea oil runs out.
Good question. Maybe they can increase Kipper sales.