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Spin Zone / Re: Seth Rich had contact with WikiLeaks prior to death

« on: May 26, 2017, 07:20:50 AM »

Quote from: LevelWing on May 26, 2017, 07:05:56 AM

I disagree. Even if Trump resigned or was impeached and removed, Pence would become the next President, followed by Paul Ryan and so on. Our system of government is well in tact.

I would expect that a new vice president would be selected by Pence and approved very quickly before Ryan rose to the presidency. It's hard to imagine someone worse for the job and more universally despised than Ryan.

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Spin Zone / Re: Should the Washington Post be held responsible?

« on: May 26, 2017, 07:06:30 AM »

Quote from: asechrest on May 26, 2017, 06:59:34 AM

Let's also remember that just because a set of information is harmful to national security does not mean that the governed people shouldn't know about it.

I don't like the term "governed people". Didn't we fight a revolution to change that? Doesn't the government work for us?

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Spin Zone / Re: Seth Rich had contact with WikiLeaks prior to death

« on: May 26, 2017, 06:40:49 AM »

Quote from: LevelWing on May 25, 2017, 09:21:52 AM

Saying there is a coup is hyperbole. I'll agree there are people who are actively trying to damage Trump and his administration and I think there are many who would love to see Trump resign or be impeached and removed. But that's hardly a coup.

I think there is a planned, methodical approach by the Democrats, and the Media to undermine the Trump Administration. I don't think calling it a Coup is hyperbole. I think it is real, call it what you will, but except for the violence, we are seeing all the indications of an attempt to overthrow the legitimate President of the U.S., without any facts, nor a rationale for doing it. When the false accusations don't work, they may resort to violence. That is if trump continues to actually do what he said he would do. If he folds, and we remain business as usual (crony, big government, more taxes, etc) then they will back off.

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Spin Zone / Re: Your 4th Amendment Right........

« on: May 25, 2017, 07:35:50 AM »

Quote from: Steingar on May 25, 2017, 06:51:38 AM

The government likes to keep you frightened. The media likes it too, sells cars and breakfast cereals. Fact of the matter is you are far more lily to die of a plethora of mundane causes than be harmed by a terrorist. I say this having had a terrorist attack at my home institution. Freedom is more important than security.

This is true but the problem with this line of argument (to support not discriminating against ideologies associated with terrorism) is your assumption that this rate will remain static. As we saw pre WWII in Germany, very small problems can escalate and spread into all encompassing problems. If Islamic terrorism is not nipped in the bud, it will become much more widespread.

The second problem with your line of argument is that while the odds of being a direct victim of terrorism is very small, the attacks result in very significant social changes that do impact us all in a negative way, such as the creation of TSA as DJ points out.

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Spin Zone / Re: Have all the liberal/progressives left?

« on: May 24, 2017, 10:54:02 AM »

Liberals are always stunned when they realize that conservatives are not just old white guys but run the gambit of ethnic backgrounds including those who are considered non-white. As always liberal premises are never close to reality.

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Spin Zone / Re: Seth Rich had contact with WikiLeaks prior to death

« on: May 24, 2017, 07:08:16 AM »

Quote from: Lucifer on May 24, 2017, 07:05:21 AM

The whole Trump Russia narrative is there to delegitimize the presidency and to further slow down any implementation of the administration.

The Democrat propagandist media (95% of it) is staging a COUP, as I have said before. It is purposeful undermining of the legitimate government of the United States, and they need to be held accountable for it.

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Spin Zone / Re: Have all the liberal/progressives left?

« on: May 24, 2017, 07:00:13 AM »

Quote from: LevelWing on May 24, 2017, 06:50:33 AM

My point remains. This site wasn't started as a conservative discussion forum, it just happened that the majority of regular posters here are more conservative minded. I want more people to post here in general, including more people with differing view points. Generally speaking, you're not likely to see people name calling here whereas if I posted over at DailyKos, I would likely be immediately insulted for daring to disagree with their narrative. But again, that's a known liberal site. PilotSpin wasn't started to be a conservative site.

My thoughts exactly. Nobody mandates this site to be conservative leaning. As a group, it seems, pilots/aircraft owners are more conservative by nature. We are responsible individuals, we pay for things, and we accept being held accountable for our actions. Plus we burn 100LL, and/or Jet A. By contrast, many liberal/progressives (not all, mind you) blame everyone else for their circumstances, have a victim mentality, and often think the USA is a empire that enjoys taking advantage of others, and exploiting them.

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Spin Zone / Re: Have all the liberal/progressives left?

« on: May 24, 2017, 05:29:01 AM »

Quote from: asechrest on May 23, 2017, 07:28:10 PM

My question remains: how many of you participate in discussions at DailyKos or other liberal controlled discussion sites?

The difference is that DailyKos is a known liberal site. PilotSpin is not a conservative nor a liberal site, it's just a site open to political discussions. As it happens, the majority of posters happen to be more conservative.

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Spin Zone / Re: Have all the liberal/progressives left?

« on: May 23, 2017, 11:37:00 AM »

Quote from: Jim Logajan on May 23, 2017, 10:48:03 AM

Maybe they get tired of the fact that a vocal subgroup of conservatives would rather discuss their psycho-analysis of liberals (e.g. this entire thread being an example) than whatever point the liberals are trying make?

Guess I hit too close to home, huh?

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Spin Zone / Re: Cable News Ratings Upheaval

« on: May 23, 2017, 06:18:38 AM »

Quote from: LevelWing on May 23, 2017, 06:13:57 AM

I would hope not. The Blaze is having issues right now, especially after the Tomi Lahren incident. CRTV may be the better option, or a new network altogether. I'm not a fan of Glenn Beck. I'm really not a huge fan of Sean Hannity either, for that matter.

I like Hannity more than Beck, although he certainly isn't my favorite. Beck is a LOON.

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Spin Zone / Re: Google Bias

« on: May 22, 2017, 02:35:25 PM »

Quote from: Jim Logajan on May 22, 2017, 02:04:04 PM

Absent proof otherwise, why should I believe they are deliberately biased since there are simpler explanations? For example, the algorithms probably weight web pages by their popularity, and liberal web sites may simply have higher visit counts.

This is not necessarily addressed to you Jim, but it always astounds me how "proof" is required to cause suspicion of liberals, but idle wishful suspicions are regarded as "proof" of conservative wrongdoings.

Let me ask you a couple of questions:
1. Do you think Google is technologically able to program in such bias?
2. Do you think the honcho's at Google are above doing so?
3. If "Google" is biased, which side do you think they lean towards?

My responses would be;
Yes
No
Liberal

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Spin Zone / Re: Trump speech in Saudi Arabia

« on: May 22, 2017, 05:50:56 AM »

Quote from: Jim Logajan on May 21, 2017, 07:49:19 PM

Nice non-interventionist rhetoric.
Seems unlikely to be acted on, though.

Why do you say that? The first step is recognizing, and identifying the problem in addition to admitting the problem. For eight years Obama, nor any Democrat would admit that radical Islamic terrorism was the problem. Appeasement only emboldens them.

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