PILOT SPIN
Spin Zone => Spin Zone => Topic started by: President-Elect Bob Noel on March 18, 2020, 05:17:02 AM
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Remember a few months ago when big medical companies (e.g., pharmaceuticals) were evil evil evil?
With the panic over COVID-19, pharmaceuticals may get an image makeover.
Unless, of course, it was the big pharmaceuticals that made this COVID-19 mess in the first place. hmmmmmmmmmm.
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Pharmaceutical companies are no longer money printing machines. That ended almost 20 years ago or so. They are under the same pressure, that other lower margin companies are under to cut costs. Therefore, many have moved R&D, and manufacturing overseas. Some have been bought by foreign companies, and/or even moved their HQ overseas for tax purposes.
So, while they may still be U.S. companies they are still dependent on foreign operations. Some are outsourcing manufacturing to third parties, again overseas. We no longer have control of a lot of the drug production here.
Berne and other Democrats are using this crisis to push NATIONALIZATION of certain industries like Drub and Oil companies. Never let a crisis go to waste, right? This is what you would get with a Democrat President, and Democrat legislature.
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Pharmaceutical companies are no longer money printing machines. That ended almost 20 years ago or so. They are under the same pressure, that other lower margin companies are under to cut costs. Therefore, many have moved R&D, and manufacturing overseas. Some have been bought by foreign companies, and/or even moved their HQ overseas for tax purposes.
So, while they may still be U.S. companies they are still dependent on foreign operations. Some are outsourcing manufacturing to third parties, again overseas. We no longer have control of a lot of the drug production here.
Berne and other Democrats are using this crisis to push NATIONALIZATION of certain industries like Drub and Oil companies. Never let a crisis go to waste, right? This is what you would get with a Democrat President, and Democrat legislature.
Nationalization is ridiculous. However, I
Love Trump’s initiative to bring our entire medical supply chain back home to the US.
I heard this on Tucker last night and read about this this morning, but the fucking US Chamber of Commerce is fighting this move by Trump. Fuck those swamp dwellers. Go Trump.
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Nationalization is ridiculous. However, I
Love Trump’s initiative to bring our entire medical supply chain back home to the US.
I heard this on Tucker last night and read about this this morning, but the fucking US Chamber of Commerce is fighting this move by Trump. Fuck those swamp dwellers. Go Trump.
All the Chamber of Commerce and other swamp dwellers care about is short term, lower costs to companies. That's why they are promoting the influx of illegal aliens. I'd like to see more strategy manufacturing come back not only for security but to create jobs, however my belief is that much of it will be automated, which is fine, but it is not a job panacea. We had the lowest unemployment rate in decades before this crap started.
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All the Chamber of Commerce and other swamp dwellers care about is short term, lower costs to companies. That's why they are promoting the influx of illegal aliens. I'd like to see more strategy manufacturing come back not only for security but to create jobs, however my belief is that much of it will be automated, which is fine, but it is not a job panacea. We had the lowest unemployment rate in decades before this crap started.
Even if it is 90% automated when it comes back, with very few employment opportunities, at least it would be putting the manufacture of critical items under our control. It makes no sense to have an enemy producing our medicines and medical supplies. Where will we get those critical supplies to treat our war wounded if we do go to war with them. And if war with them is not a possibility, then why are we spending so much on a gigantic military to defend against them?
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Even if it is 90% automated when it comes back, with very few employment opportunities, at least it would be putting the manufacture of critical items under our control. It makes no sense to have an enemy producing our medicines and medical supplies. Where will we get those critical supplies to treat our war wounded if we do go to war with them. And if war with them is not a possibility, then why are we spending so much on a gigantic military to defend against them?
I totally agree. I wasn't saying it shouldn't come back due to automation. Even automation requires monitoring, management, maintenance, repair, installation, upgrades, etc. Lots of jobs and suppliers to support the processes.
Plus the strategic value is enormous.
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I totally agree. I wasn't saying it shouldn't come back due to automation. Even automation requires monitoring, management, maintenance, repair, installation, upgrades, etc. Lots of jobs and suppliers to support the processes.
Plus the strategic value is enormous.
Yep. Many of my clients that have automated their manufacturing operations claim that it doesn’t reduce their employment; it just shifts the job duties (and requires better qualified people) to do these things to keep the robots working.
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Even if it is 90% automated when it comes back, with very few employment opportunities, at least it would be putting the manufacture of critical items under our control. It makes no sense to have an enemy producing our medicines and medical supplies. Where will we get those critical supplies to treat our war wounded if we do go to war with them. And if war with them is not a possibility, then why are we spending so much on a gigantic military to defend against them?
China isn’t our only adversary.
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China isn’t our only adversary.
Of course not. What in my post made you think I thought they were?
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Of course not. What in my post made you think I thought they were?
Your last sentence questioning why we are spending money on a “gigantic military” if we can’t defend against them, with “them” being China.
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Your last sentence questioning why we are spending money on a “gigantic military” if we can’t defend against them, with “them” being China.
Ok, I'll give you that. But they are one of our biggest potential military threats, along with Russia.
There are many other threats too, like Iran and N.K. but we don't need a multi-trillion dollar military to deal with those.
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Ok, I'll give you that. But they are one of our biggest potential military threats, along with Russia.
There are many other threats too, like Iran and N.K. but we don't need a multi-trillion dollar military to deal with those.
um, "multi-trillion"? just how big do you think the DoD budget is?
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Ok, I'll give you that. But they are one of our biggest potential military threats, along with Russia.
There are many other threats too, like Iran and N.K. but we don't need a multi-trillion dollar military to deal with those.
What size is right? Who’s smaller military should we hope to emulate?
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Ok, I'll give you that. But they are one of our biggest potential military threats, along with Russia.
There are many other threats too, like Iran and N.K. but we don't need a multi-trillion dollar military to deal with those.
I think we spend way too much on the military, and could deal with a streamlined version, but not a version of what we have. That's built for the Cold War. I am not saying we need to gut the military, just change our priorities a bit, and stop being prepared for the last war. I don't see large conventional wars happening but I do understand the deterrent factor of having to be prepared for one.
China is by far our number one enemy.
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I think we spend way too much on the military, and could deal with a streamlined version, but not a version of what we have. That's built for the Cold War. I am not saying we need to gut the military, just change our priorities a bit, and stop being prepared for the last war. I don't see large conventional wars happening but I do understand the deterrent factor of having to be prepared for one.
China is by far our number one enemy.
Disagree. China is number two. Number one is the radical left wing of the Democrat party.
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um, "multi-trillion"? just how big do you think the DoD budget is?
Do you mean the annual budget? Our military wasn't developed, built or paid for in a year.
At $700 Billion/year, how many years would it take to amass a multi-trillion dollar military?
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Disagree. China is number two. Number one is the radical left wing of the Democrat party.
You of course are correct. ;D