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Spin Zone / Re: GoFundMe Wall Project
« on: December 21, 2018, 06:39:44 AM »
Quote from: LevelWing on December 21, 2018, 05:37:31 AM
The campaign promise was that Mexico was going to pay for the wall, which was silly since they aren't going to do that. That aside, Congress is supposed to appropriate the money, which comes from taxpayers. So now taxpayers are donating money to a wall that Congress should be funding? No, sorry, this is silly. The messaging piece is fine in that it's showing American's concern for border security, but Americans shouldn't be giving more of their money to this; we already pay taxes. Congress needs to fund it.

And what happened to all those R's that ran on it, and promised it?   2 years of holding both the house and senate, and they just couldn't seem to do anything about it.  Now that is silly, and pathetic.

 As for how private citizens wish to spend their money?  Why is that any of your concern?  If you don't agree, move on.  But it's condescending to belittle others in how they spend their own money for whatever they want, even if it's something the pathetic politicians won't do.

 Just imagine back in the 1700's if we had people who were saying "Ya know, we shouldn't have to buy our own ammunition, or even use our own guns to serve in this militia, the government needs to pay for it!"

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Spin Zone / Re: GoFundMe Wall Project
« on: December 20, 2018, 02:25:29 PM »
$7 million

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Spin Zone / Re: Trump does an about face
« on: December 20, 2018, 01:33:14 PM »
Quote from: Little Joe on December 20, 2018, 01:27:59 PM
Ok, so someone tell me WHY the Republicans still have a majority in Congress, yet failed to insert a measly $5B for the wall? (Measly in terms of "government money").

 It's called "the establishment".  They work hand in hand with their dim counterparts fueling the DC machine, and they do not want a disrupter like Trump ruining their enterprise, "Govt Inc."

 Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell are in this group, as well as many other well known names that put an "R" after them.  They want Trump gone, and they want one of their own (R or D) back in the WH so they can get back to business as usual.

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Spin Zone / Re: GoFundMe Wall Project
« on: December 20, 2018, 12:51:35 PM »
Quote from: EppyGA on December 20, 2018, 12:45:28 PM
As an aside, Trump has told Republicans he will not sign the CR unless it includes money for the wall. He may have found his balls again.

 There's some intricate stuff going on here.  Stand by and watch.

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Spin Zone / Re: GoFundMe Wall Project
« on: December 20, 2018, 12:39:15 PM »
$6 million

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Spin Zone / Re: Trump does an about face
« on: December 20, 2018, 12:07:14 PM »
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/dec/20/ryan-trump-wont-sign-spending-bill-house-work-alte/

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House Speaker Paul Ryan on Thursday said that President Trump would refuse to sign the spending bill passed by the Senate, sending lawmakers back to the drawing board to avoid a government shutdown Friday.
Emerging from a meeting with the president at the White House, Mr. Ryan said the president would not sign a spending bill that did not include funding for border security.
“We just had a very long productive meeting with the president. The president informed us that he will not sign the bill that came from the Senate last evening because of his legitimate concerns for border security,” Mr. Ryan told reporters.
“So what we’re going to do is go back to the House and work with our members,” he said.

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Spin Zone / Re: GoFundMe Wall Project
« on: December 20, 2018, 10:46:00 AM »
Quote from: Anthony on December 20, 2018, 10:43:06 AM
Maybe the government will end up matching the donations?  Yeah right.

 If nothing else, it sends a clear message to congress.

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Spin Zone / Re: GoFundMe Wall Project
« on: December 20, 2018, 10:26:40 AM »
About to hit $5 million

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Spin Zone / Re: U.S. to pull out of Syria
« on: December 20, 2018, 10:24:39 AM »
Quote from: asechrest on December 20, 2018, 09:18:27 AM
Apparently, Congress is full of folks who love perpetual war and world policing. Rand Paul is the one bright spot.

 It's big business.  Big lucrative contracts.

Example, Afghanistan.  Look at the number of civilian contractors there.

Start with the motor pool.  All civilian run.  Mess Halls?  All civilian run and operated.  Plus logistics, again, civilian run.  These are huge contracts, this is why we have poured $800 billion plus into this operation.

Last time I checked, diesel fuel delivered to Afghanistan (and we use a lot) is over $20/gallon delivered, again, civilian run.

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Spin Zone / Re: GoFundMe Wall Project
« on: December 20, 2018, 08:35:22 AM »
I believe the organizers of this would have enough sense not to just hand over the proceeds to congress.

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Spin Zone / Re: GoFundMe Wall Project
« on: December 20, 2018, 07:47:14 AM »
Quote from: Anthony on December 20, 2018, 07:42:47 AM
Agreed.  Big establishment types, and supporters, but just think of the PR?

 They thrive on big government contracts, and they need the support of the dims as well as the republicans.   If they supported such an effort, the establishment (d&r) would thrash them and look for another contractor.

 The grass roots effort is beautiful.  It's approaching $4 million right now, after only 3 days.  Just think where it will go if it gets more media coverage. 

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Spin Zone / Re: GoFundMe Wall Project
« on: December 20, 2018, 07:21:43 AM »
Quote from: Anthony on December 20, 2018, 07:11:27 AM
Maybe some large contractors like Bechtel, and Halliburton should volunteer to build the wall for free, or at least at cost?  They've made billions from government, and the American taxpayer.  Step up!

 They are tied at the hip with the establishment class, and they are no friend of the President.   

 The votes should have been there in congress and the senate, but once again the RINO's prevailed.   

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Spin Zone / Re: GoFundMe Wall Project
« on: December 20, 2018, 06:53:57 AM »
It shows ingenuity and American spirit.   Will it get to the ultimate goal?  Who knows.

But it does show that Americans are concerned, concerned enough to actually dig into their own pockets if necessary.

This should send a message to the inept's of congress.  No doubt the progressives are searching for an obscure law to say this funding is illegal, or even better, the Russians are behind it.


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Spin Zone / Re: GoFundMe Wall Project
« on: December 19, 2018, 09:43:18 PM »
About to hit $2 million

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Spin Zone / GoFundMe Wall Project
« on: December 19, 2018, 09:40:39 PM »
https://www.gofundme.com/TheTrumpWall

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