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Title: Article V can save us from this terrible nightmare
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on August 15, 2016, 02:48:26 AM
http://www.conventionofstates.com/

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2014/02/10/article-v-an-emergency-solution-hidden-in-plain-sight/

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2016/08/the_great_american_eclipse.html
Title: Re: Article V can save us from this terrible nightmare
Post by: LevelWing on August 15, 2016, 03:41:27 AM
Article V is a great way to make the changes that we need. However, because there are a lot and different issues are important to different people (and states), which ones get priority? You'll have a limited amount of time to make a big impact so it's important to ensure that the right issues are addressed. I think the following could be on the agenda and these are not in any order of priority.

Title: Re: Article V can save us from this terrible nightmare
Post by: Little Joe on August 15, 2016, 04:36:10 AM
In theory, it could work.
In practice, I believe we would come up with a solution equal in quality to our current Presidential candidates.

I think the best thin we could do now is pass some sort of resolution reaffirming our commitment to the Constitution, as it stands.
Title: Re: Article V can save us from this terrible nightmare
Post by: JeffDG on August 15, 2016, 04:44:04 AM
Article V is a great way to make the changes that we need. However, because there are a lot and different issues are important to different people (and states), which ones get priority? You'll have a limited amount of time to make a big impact so it's important to ensure that the right issues are addressed. I think the following could be on the agenda and these are not in any order of priority.

  • Clarifying language in the Second Amendment
  • Congressional term limits
  • Balanced budget
  • Possible update to the Fourth Amendment
In terms of clarification, the Commerce Clause and the Necessary and Proper Clause need to be clarified back to their original meaning, then 90% of what FedGov does devolves to the states.
Title: Re: Article V can save us from this terrible nightmare
Post by: bflynn on August 15, 2016, 07:08:17 AM
In terms of clarification, the Commerce Clause and the Necessary and Proper Clause need to be clarified back to their original meaning, then 90% of what FedGov does devolves to the states.

In terms of reality, you'll need some way to get judges to uphold the rule of law.  If you fix these, they're going to figure out another Clintonian way to inject their personal preference into the law.
Title: Re: Article V can save us from this terrible nightmare
Post by: LevelWing on August 15, 2016, 11:10:48 AM
In theory, it could work.
In practice, I believe we would come up with a solution equal in quality to our current Presidential candidates.
Why do you think that?

I think the best thin we could do now is pass some sort of resolution reaffirming our commitment to the Constitution, as it stands.
That's like passing a law or executive order to enforce existing laws. I doubt that would have any effect other than being symbolic.
Title: Re: Article V can save us from this terrible nightmare
Post by: LevelWing on August 15, 2016, 11:13:59 AM
In terms of clarification, the Commerce Clause and the Necessary and Proper Clause need to be clarified back to their original meaning, then 90% of what FedGov does devolves to the states.
Would you be in favor of "unincorporating" the Constitution?