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Title: New Democrat TV Ad
Post by: Noah W on October 23, 2018, 11:21:20 AM


Noah W
Title: Re: New Democrat TV Ad
Post by: Lucifer on October 23, 2018, 12:55:24 PM
The truth hurts sometimes.
Title: Re: New Democrat TV Ad
Post by: SkyDog58 on October 23, 2018, 01:53:43 PM
That was stupid. 
Title: Re: New Democrat TV Ad
Post by: Lucifer on October 23, 2018, 02:13:13 PM
That was stupid.

But right on point.
Title: Re: New Democrat TV Ad
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on October 23, 2018, 05:18:19 PM
That is awesome and on point
Title: Re: New Democrat TV Ad
Post by: Number7 on October 23, 2018, 08:16:34 PM
Can you imagine the heads that would explode if that ever ran on ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN, or pmsnbc?

The cries of racism would echo so loud that people wouldn't be able to hear the number of chic-chic democrats that would stop and think about the message.
Title: Re: New Democrat TV Ad
Post by: Anthony on October 23, 2018, 11:17:08 PM
That was stupid.

What was stupid about it?
Title: Re: New Democrat TV Ad
Post by: Little Joe on October 24, 2018, 03:17:00 AM
 ???
What was stupid about it?
It was stupid. 
It was meant to be stupid. 
It successfully made liberals look stupid.
Title: Re: New Democrat TV Ad
Post by: Anthony on October 24, 2018, 07:22:08 AM
???It was stupid. 
It was meant to be stupid. 
It successfully made liberals look stupid.

It was stupidly accurate. 
Title: Re: New Democrat TV Ad
Post by: Little Joe on October 24, 2018, 09:59:57 AM
It was stupidly accurate.
Yeah, that too.
Title: Re: New Democrat TV Ad
Post by: invflatspin on October 24, 2018, 02:50:35 PM
I happened by the county polling place today. Open for early voting. poor weather, parking lot packed, line out the door for voting booth, LOTS of red hats!

It's going to be a train wreck for D.
Title: Re: New Democrat TV Ad
Post by: SkyDog58 on October 24, 2018, 03:00:58 PM
What was stupid about it?

It was a real poor attempt at sarcasm/satire.  I fully understand that she was trying to be funny but I think it was just stupid.   And it adds zero value to the discussion but only adds to the divisiveness.  Of course I do realize that many on here enjoy the divisiveness and like to see fuel added to the fire.  Personally I am sick of it.   
Title: Re: New Democrat TV Ad
Post by: Lucifer on October 24, 2018, 03:08:19 PM
It was a real poor attempt at sarcasm/satire.  I fully understand that she was trying to be funny but I think it was just stupid.   And it adds zero value to the discussion but only adds to the divisiveness.  Of course I do realize that many on here enjoy the divisiveness and like to see fuel added to the fire.  Personally I am sick of it.

 The full on mouth foaming alt left radicals, which have now taken over the democrat party deserve to have it handed back to them, as seen in this sarcastic video.   What we didn't see in that video was pure hatred, racism and bigotry, nor did we see the lady in the video screaming obscenities and making demands.  It was nothing more than a lighthearted jab about just how absurd the left have become.
Title: Re: New Democrat TV Ad
Post by: invflatspin on October 24, 2018, 03:10:19 PM
Truth hurts?

As for divisiveness, I say stand by principles if that's what is important. Take grievances to your govt, and express them. It's a constitutional right. Our govt answers to the people and if a group wants to change the society, then convince the representatives to author changes. Or, convince the electorate to select those reps who will work toward said change.

We just went through the most fractious 8 years up to 2017 since the mid-1960s(I recall it well back then). Things changed, starting in 1963, and later.

BTW, sarcasm and satire has a long, long history in English and colonial history.
Title: Re: New Democrat TV Ad
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on October 24, 2018, 03:28:51 PM
It was a real poor attempt at sarcasm/satire.  I fully understand that she was trying to be funny but I think it was just stupid.   And it adds zero value to the discussion but only adds to the divisiveness.  Of course I do realize that many on here enjoy the divisiveness and like to see fuel added to the fire.  Personally I am sick of it.
A funny satire that exposes hypocrisy is meant to inform and promote balanced reflection, not add to the divisiveness.

And your statement, which I bolded, is hyperbolically inaccurate. Most here, I think I can say accurately, are horrified at the left’s destruction of the republic and polarizing of America’s citizenry, while simultaneously applauding that same left’s apparent inability to see that all their doubling down is destroying their party instead.
Title: Re: New Democrat TV Ad
Post by: bflynn on October 24, 2018, 04:04:57 PM
I agree, that was pretty stupid.
Title: Re: New Democrat TV Ad
Post by: Noah W on October 24, 2018, 04:19:05 PM
Anyone who thinks the demonrat party is out for the good of the people of the USoA needs to rethink their position. The d's are responsible for the most intrusive and destructive invasion of the God given Rights written and affirmed by the Constitution of the United States, starting with FDR and continuing today. Only under the mooslim half negro when he doubled down with his radical agenda did the People begin to wake up and realize what was happening. That is why Hilarity the "Pantsuit Felon Clintoon is not the POTUS today. It is imperative to maintain control of Congress and get rid of the "Professional Politicians" that rule the roost in both the House and Senate. Then and only then can we began to clean up and return America to the way it was meant to be by our Founding Fathers as written in both the Declaration of Independence and Constitution. Any one who understand this has no knowledge of the history of the US, or is a complete ID10T. Otherwise if you don't like America GTFO.

Noah W
Title: Re: New Democrat TV Ad
Post by: bflynn on October 24, 2018, 06:46:52 PM
Lighten up Francis.
Title: Re: New Democrat TV Ad
Post by: asechrest on October 24, 2018, 07:20:35 PM
"Mooslim half negro, eh?" Lol.
Title: Re: New Democrat TV Ad
Post by: SkyDog58 on October 25, 2018, 03:25:51 AM
Anyone who thinks the demonrat party is out for the good of the people of the USoA needs to rethink their position. The d's are responsible for the most intrusive and destructive invasion of the God given Rights written and affirmed by the Constitution of the United States, starting with FDR and continuing today. Only under the mooslim half negro when he doubled down with his radical agenda did the People begin to wake up and realize what was happening. That is why Hilarity the "Pantsuit Felon Clintoon is not the POTUS today. It is imperative to maintain control of Congress and get rid of the "Professional Politicians" that rule the roost in both the House and Senate. Then and only then can we began to clean up and return America to the way it was meant to be by our Founding Fathers as written in both the Declaration of Independence and Constitution. Any one who understand this has no knowledge of the history of the US, or is a complete ID10T. Otherwise if you don't like America GTFO.

Noah W

Whew!  Finally an intelligent non divisive post.   And I thought everyone here was a right wing lunatic.

 ::)
Title: Re: New Democrat TV Ad
Post by: Rush on October 25, 2018, 04:22:19 AM
Whew!  Finally an intelligent non divisive post.   And I thought everyone here was a right wing lunatic.

 ::)

I assume that's sarcasm. So sentence by sentence what exactly did he say that is not truth?
Title: Re: New Democrat TV Ad
Post by: Anthony on October 25, 2018, 04:28:15 AM
Whew!  Finally an intelligent non divisive post.   And I thought everyone here was a right wing lunatic.

 ::)

Then make cogent arguments why the Democrat, Liberal/Progressive agenda is better than what Trump, and Republicans want to do. I'm not saying I agree with divisive statements, but Hillary called us Deplorables, then recently said they could not be civil until they took back power.  Eric Holder than said it was OK to kick people in which he disagreed.  Antifa, and BLM are Democrat supported groups that use violence, and intimidation.   

So who is the uncivil ones?
Title: Re: New Democrat TV Ad
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on October 25, 2018, 06:17:55 AM
Whew!  Finally an intelligent non divisive post.   And I thought everyone here was a right wing lunatic.

 ::)
Am eager to see how you defend Noah’s points as being lunacy.

In Post #11 you stated without satire that “many on here enjoy the divisiveness.” In truth, many here would be quite interested to see an actual, reasoned justification for the left’s shenanigans. We love our country. Tell us how open borders, free shit, resisting at every turn the most effective and vital President in our lifetimes who is actually chipping away at deep corruption in federal agencies, dismissing around 57 million American voters as uneducated rubes, ginning up false charges against a squeaky clean SCOTUS nominee simply for your own power-grabbing optics, and so much, much more of same, is helping restore harmony and prosperity.
Title: Re: New Democrat TV Ad
Post by: Lucifer on October 25, 2018, 06:26:56 AM
The mouth foaming alt left progressives are masters of projection.

 In a last ditch effort to save the "blue wave" they have hoped and prayed (to George Soros) for now they are desperately trying to make the conservatives out as being hostile.

 The democrat playbook is still in use.  Look for several sex smears in key elections over the next few days.  They are already stoking the charges of racism anywhere and everywhere possible.
Title: Re: New Democrat TV Ad
Post by: azure on October 25, 2018, 07:17:34 AM
Then make cogent arguments why the Democrat, Liberal/Progressive agenda is better than what Trump, and Republicans want to do. I'm not saying I agree with divisive statements, but Hillary called us Deplorables, then recently said they could not be civil until they took back power.  Eric Holder than said it was OK to kick people in which he disagreed.  Antifa, and BLM are Democrat supported groups that use violence, and intimidation.   

So who is the uncivil ones?

BOTH sides have made statements that promote uncivility. I would put the video in the OP in the category of less-than-helpful issuances from the right. As I read his post, that's all SkyDog was getting it, that satires intended to make the other side look stupid rarely lead to productive discussion.

PBS had an interview a night or two ago with Ben Sasse about his new book. Has anyone read it? I'm considering getting it as I thought most of what he said was spot on. (Then again, that might be a good reason NOT to waste my dollars on it.)
Title: Re: New Democrat TV Ad
Post by: invflatspin on October 25, 2018, 07:31:23 AM
Whew!  Finally an intelligent non divisive post.   And I thought everyone here was a right wing lunatic.

 ::)

I've noticed you typically take a critique position on statements of others. But - so far, I don't think you've stepped in to the batters box and faced the pitcher. This 'not going to sully the commoners' type of position that you are better than the rest, and aren't willing to take a definitive stand is getting more common in debate. It's as if your feces is just too fragrant, and you just can't be bothered by all the riff-raff.

First you critique the sarcasm/satire of the OPs contribution, then you go ahead and engage in what I guess is better, or higher quality sarcasm/satire yourself? And, just to toss a bit of gas on the fire take a nice judgmental stab at basically half the US population, although substituting 'lunatic' for 'deplorable' might be considered quality put-down, frankly - I think it's too easy.

You don't owe me or anyone else here any learning, I mean - it's just a web board, right? I gotta say, this one-liner drive-by witty put down stuff is going to get old real fast.  If you got it, lets hear it. We're all just drooling to hear your intellectual POV on topics of interest which got you banned from another web board. Strangely enough, it's seems they didn't like the cut of your jib either.
Title: Re: New Democrat TV Ad
Post by: asechrest on October 25, 2018, 08:17:17 AM
Noah W has points. But the delivery sucks.
Title: Re: New Democrat TV Ad
Post by: Lucifer on October 25, 2018, 08:23:59 AM
Noah W has points. But the delivery sucks.

Title: Re: New Democrat TV Ad
Post by: acrogimp on October 25, 2018, 08:40:01 AM
The butt hurt about this video is hilarious - it's funny because it's true.

Especially the hypocrisy - we must believe all women (except the ones who accuse Slick Willy, etc.), all women are strong and independnt (except the ones who leech of their hubbies and vote for Trump because patricarchy), we believe in science (unless it defines a human life or suggests only two genders), I could literally go on, and on, and on.....

'Gimp
Title: Re: New Democrat TV Ad
Post by: bflynn on October 25, 2018, 09:39:00 AM
The butt hurt about this video is hilarious - it's funny because it's true.

Especially the hypocrisy - we must believe all women (except the ones who accuse Slick Willy, etc.), all women are strong and independnt (except the ones who leech of their hubbies and vote for Trump because patricarchy), we believe in science (unless it defines a human life or suggests only two genders), I could literally go on, and on, and on.....

'Gimp

But it's not true...that's why it's not funny.  It presents the Left's motivation as so ridiculous as to be stupid. 
Title: Re: New Democrat TV Ad
Post by: Little Joe on October 25, 2018, 10:20:14 AM

We're all just drooling to hear your intellectual POV on topics of interest which got you banned from another web board. Strangely enough, it's seems they didn't like the cut of your jib either.
Getting banned from that other board is not really an effective insult.  PS was designed expressly to allow those with the cut of his jib to be here.

I think that Skydog is just a contrarian.  He disputes what others have to say for the fun of it.  Just like my dear beloved wife.  I bet when he goes to Vegas, he bets "don't".  And wins.
Title: Re: New Democrat TV Ad
Post by: invflatspin on October 25, 2018, 10:20:39 AM
But it's not true...that's why it's not funny.  It presents the Left's motivation as so ridiculous as to be stupid.

Lets take a look at one salient point to find out about 'truth' as snopes would put it. She says the dems want to "repealing the second amendment". This is not a true statement. The dems as a platform do not want to attempt to write an amendment that would repeal the one of the bill of rights amendments. What the dems want, is to 'interpret' the words in the 2nd amendment so that it is effectively nullified. I guess - taken perfectly literally, shopes would call this a false statement. But - lets be realistic. The dems consideration of the right to keep and bear arms would be completely gone if there was a majority of legislators, and SCOTUS from the dems. The right to 'keep and bear arms' would be legislated down to one licensed rifle, with one non-lethal round, locked in a steel gun cabinet, with a combination that was only known to the local sheriff and the gun owner would need to fill out a form in triplicate, and pay a use fee of $300 to get the combo, to open the gun safe, to get the rifle, and take it to a qualified range, to fire the one non-lethal round, at which time the gun owner could purchase another serialized non-lethal round, to be kept in the gun safe, locked at all times. This - is what the dems consider to be not infringed.

So, ok, the 2 second statement is false as snopes would say. The dems do not want to repeal the 2nd. But - sure as there are squirrels in the park, they will restrict and regulate gun ownership down to effectively infringing on every aspect of it. Recent court case in CA said this just last week. Google it.
Title: Re: New Democrat TV Ad
Post by: invflatspin on October 25, 2018, 10:27:10 AM
Getting banned from that other board is not really an effective insult.  PS was designed expressly to allow those with the cut of his jib to be here.

I think that Skydog is just a contrarian.  He disputes what others have to say for the fun of it.  Just like my dear beloved wife.  I bet when he goes to Vegas, he bets "don't".  And wins.

Nothing wrong with being a contrarian. As long as there some contribution made. Drive by cheap shots aren't useful. Seen it before, it's easy to play the player and not the game.
Title: Re: New Democrat TV Ad
Post by: bflynn on October 25, 2018, 02:20:13 PM
I wasted time, listened again and took notes.  That's 15 minutes of my life I will never get back.  This is why that video was stupid. 

First - she isn't a spokesperson for the democrats

Republicans do care about love and good will.  They are not fascists.

Democrats in general are not interested in abolishing the electoral college or getting rid of due process.  SOME democrats believe in these things.  Some Republicans are also in favor of getting rid of due process and banning certain speech.

The second amendment and kneeling for the national anthem are obviously not unifying.  Again, SOME democrats like it, but even they would not call these thing unifying or if they did, they would be meaning energizing the alt-left.

Democrats do no unconditionally believe women and disbelieve men.  It's stupid to state it as such.

That's the first minute.  I'm note wasting any more time listening to this crap.  That's something like 10 errors in 60 seconds or one every 6 seconds.  It's stupid. 

The alt-Left believes these things, but even they don't really believe them.  Then endorse them because endorsing them advances their causes, but most of them recognize the illogical nature.  They just don't care.

But the alt-left is only the most extreme Democrats.  The average run of the mill democrat rejects most of these things, even while they continue to endorse their party.  Why?  That's an entirely different question, but basically boils down to the worst of two choices.  They cannot get past their media induced bias to challenge what their party is doing and don't believe Republicans would deliver anything better.  So, it's easiest to go to the polls and once again take the blue pill.
Title: Re: New Democrat TV Ad
Post by: Lucifer on October 25, 2018, 02:31:26 PM
Looks to me like a couple here need a humor implant performed.
Title: Re: New Democrat TV Ad
Post by: Number7 on October 25, 2018, 05:18:08 PM
But it's not true...that's why it's not funny.  It presents the Left's motivation as so ridiculous as to be stupid.

The leftist positions are stupid.

Claiming that there are 32 genders.

Demanding jail time for anyone who says there are exactly two.

Claiming that Donald Trump is responsible for the hurricanes.

Believing that the entire company should be forced out of business because  an executive works there who thinks marriage should be between one man and one woman.

Wearing black masks and beating up old people and cripples because they dared to go to a Donald Trump rally.

Insisting that saying you think there are things that men do better than women is sexist and actionable.

Insisting on safe spaces in case the facts trigger them.

It’s all bullshit for attention and political points.

I could go on and on and really make liberal blood boil.

In other words, it’s all stupid.

Liberalism is a massive stupid complex, driven by jealousy, mental illness and parasitism.
Title: Re: New Democrat TV Ad
Post by: azure on October 25, 2018, 06:02:17 PM
The leftist positions are stupid.

Claiming that there are 32 genders.

Demanding jail time for anyone who says there are exactly two.

Claiming that Donald Trump is responsible for the hurricanes.

Believing that the entire company should be forced out of business because  an executive works there who thinks marriage should be between one man and one woman.

Wearing black masks and beating up old people and cripples because they dared to go to a Donald Trump rally.

Insisting that saying you think there are things that men do better than women is sexist and actionable.

Insisting on safe spaces in case the facts trigger them.

It’s all bullshit for attention and political points.

I could go on and on and really make liberal blood boil.

In other words, it’s all stupid.

Liberalism is a massive stupid complex, driven by jealousy, mental illness and parasitism.

I *seriously* doubt most liberals believe those things. I never believed them even when I identified as a liberal.* That's why the video is stupid and divisive. It effectively slanders half of the populace by associating them with idiotic beliefs that only a minority really hold. And the wearing black masks and beating up old people thing... seriously?? Who the fuck does that? Whoever they are, I'd call them criminals, not liberals.

* The only one of your list that I erm... sort of identify with is "forcing a company out of business because an executive works there who thinks marriage should be between one man and one woman", which I take to mean the practice of boycotting a company based on their political stance. I do support the practice as an exercise of free choice, and it's a hell of a lot more American imho than trying to force them to change their behavior through the court system. The only time I would personally do it, though, is if the company was funneling their profits into supporting causes that directly harm me or people like me (e.g., sexual orientation).
Title: Re: New Democrat TV Ad
Post by: Rush on October 25, 2018, 06:07:50 PM
I *seriously* doubt most liberals believe those things. I never believed them even when I identified as a liberal.* That's why the video is stupid and divisive. It effectively slanders half of the populace by associating them with idiotic beliefs that only a minority really hold. And the wearing black masks and beating up old people thing... seriously?? Who the fuck does that? Whoever they are, I'd call them criminals, not liberals.

* The only one of your list that I erm... sort of identify with is "forcing a company out of business because an executive works there who thinks marriage should be between one man and one woman", which I take to mean the practice of boycotting a company based on their political stance. I do support the practice as an exercise of free choice, and it's a hell of a lot more American imho than trying to force them to change their behavior through the court system. The only time I would personally do it, though, is if the company was funneling their profits into supporting causes that directly harm me or people like me (e.g., sexual orientation).

Most people who call themselves liberals probably don't but half the country votes Democrat and right now the Democrat party has been taken over by the radical minority who do believe those things. Thank God a lot of liberals and Democrats are waking up and realizing they've been supporting the wrong side.
Title: Re: New Democrat TV Ad
Post by: azure on October 25, 2018, 06:27:04 PM
Most people who call themselves liberals probably don't but half the country votes Democrat and right now the Democrat party has been taken over by the radical minority who do believe those things. Thank God a lot of liberals and Democrats are waking up and realizing they've been supporting the wrong side.

I *hope* that what is happening is that people are waking up and realizing that supporting one side or the other consistently is abdicating the responsibility to think for oneself. Thinking for oneself usually entails reaching some conclusions that agree with one side, and others that agree with the other side. Then comes the hard work of prioritizing the issues and deciding which candidate agrees with your own positions in the most areas that you consider high priority, regardless of party.

I used to reflexively vote Democratic because I didn't want to be bothered with doing that work, and because most Democratic candidates were at most center-left. The party has now, as you put it, been taken over by a radical minority to the point where I need to know a lot more about a Dem candidate before I will consider voting for them. That doesn't mean I won't vote for a Democrat, but it sure won't be a default choice.

I haven't walked away from the Democratic party; I was never a registered member anyway. But they've sure walked away from me.
Title: Re: New Democrat TV Ad
Post by: Number7 on October 25, 2018, 06:30:18 PM
I *seriously* doubt most liberals believe those things. I never believed them even when I identified as a liberal.* That's why the video is stupid and divisive. It effectively slanders half of the populace by associating them with idiotic beliefs that only a minority really hold. And the wearing black masks and beating up old people thing... seriously?? Who the fuck does that? Whoever they are, I'd call them criminals, not liberals.

* The only one of your list that I erm... sort of identify with is "forcing a company out of business because an executive works there who thinks marriage should be between one man and one woman", which I take to mean the practice of boycotting a company based on their political stance. I do support the practice as an exercise of free choice, and it's a hell of a lot more American imho than trying to force them to change their behavior through the court system. The only time I would personally do it, though, is if the company was funneling their profits into supporting causes that directly harm me or people like me (e.g., sexual orientation).

I guess you’ve never heard of ANTIFA and by Any Means POSSIBLE.

You’ve probably never heard of the KKK either.

As far as punishing a company because you think everyone there should walk in lock step with your particular brand of social justice is every bit as stupid as pretending there are 32 genders and George Soros is a philanthropist.

Stop pissing on people who dare to disagree with your lifestyle choices. We’re allowed but the democrat (stupid people party) wouldn’t hesitate to change that. They’ve damn near outlawed fee speech as it is.

I couldn’t care less what you do in or out of bed. Stop demanding that I understand, support, remain silent, or go away because certain things are obvious.

I USED to be very inclusive about sexual choices until idiot, stupid people began to demand that I must endorse and support their personal perversions. Why not remain equal and be what you are without demanding the rest of us give you a participation ribbon. Because whining and bitching and losing your pathetic temper because I dared to point it out gets you and the rest of the militant homosexual, population attention you seem to lack and demand we all feel sorry for you and make u for it on your behalf.

Nobody is running out demanding equal rights for people who screw pigs.

Nobody seems to want to change laws to enable serial perverts get to practice their perverison except for homosexuals and bathrooms.

The hypocrisy of the militant homosexual movement is disgusting and STUPID.
Title: Re: New Democrat TV Ad
Post by: azure on October 25, 2018, 07:07:58 PM
I guess you’ve never heard of ANTIFA and by Any Means POSSIBLE.

You’ve probably never heard of the KKK either.

As far as punishing a company because you think everyone there should walk in lock step with your particular brand of social justice is every bit as stupid as pretending there are 32 genders and George Soros is a philanthropist.

Stop pissing on people who dare to disagree with your lifestyle choices. We’re allowed but the democrat (stupid people party) wouldn’t hesitate to change that. They’ve damn near outlawed fee speech as it is.

I couldn’t care less what you do in or out of bed. Stop demanding that I understand, support, remain silent, or go away because certain things are obvious.

I USED to be very inclusive about sexual choices until idiot, stupid people began to demand that I must endorse and support their personal perversions. Why not remain equal and be what you are without demanding the rest of us give you a participation ribbon. Because whining and bitching and losing your pathetic temper because I dared to point it out gets you and the rest of the militant homosexual, population attention you seem to lack and demand we all feel sorry for you and make u for it on your behalf.

Nobody is running out demanding equal rights for people who screw pigs.

Nobody seems to want to change laws to enable serial perverts get to practice their perverison except for homosexuals and bathrooms.

The hypocrisy of the militant homosexual movement is disgusting and STUPID.

And here you're lumping me in with people I would NEVER have anything to do with. The "militant homosexual movement"... people who piss on those who disagree with what they do.

I would never advocate forcing you (or anyone) to "walk in lockstep" with my beliefs on ANYTHING. That's utterly against everything I believe in. I don't demand you "understand, support, remain silent, or go away" with respect to any issue we disagree on. That's utter bullshit.

All I said is that if a company used their corporate might to try to deny me the right to marry someone I love, I reserve the right to fight back, peacefully, and in the only way that is consistent with my beliefs. That might include trying to persuade others to join me - but by reasoned argument and appeals to conscience, never by force or trying to use the power of the courts like Mullins and Craig did in the Phillips case. (In case you missed it, I agreed with SCOTUS in that case.)

Read what I wrote and stop reading into it things I never said. Sheesh...
Title: Re: New Democrat TV Ad
Post by: nddons on October 25, 2018, 07:11:21 PM
It was a real poor attempt at sarcasm/satire.  I fully understand that she was trying to be funny but I think it was just stupid.   And it adds zero value to the discussion but only adds to the divisiveness.  Of course I do realize that many on here enjoy the divisiveness and like to see fuel added to the fire.  Personally I am sick of it.
Your equivocation of what is happening on the left with what is perceived to be happening on the right is getting tiring. There is no comparison, and I’ve been voting for 40 years. The left is unhinged, and dangerous.  The projection from the left onto the right is without shame or precedent.

I saw a BBC commercial tonight on a show comparison between Trump and Obama. It showed a blue-haired millennial saying that Trump was homophobic and racist. Show me one instance of either. In the mean time, a black celebrity that has conservative leanings is called an Uncle Tom by the left, and the Log Cabin Republicans are called traitors to the flamboyant LGBT community.
Title: Re: New Democrat TV Ad
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on October 25, 2018, 07:38:56 PM
Tens of thousands of former Democrats are sickened by their party and have been for some time. It’s heartening to see their WalkAway testimonials and now, their euphoric posts about voting red. Identity politics kill, and the human organism wants to be healthy and stay alive.

https://m.facebook.com/groups/OFFICIALWalkAwayCampaign/

The hate is coming from the left, and it’s not going to stop until the Democrats make it stop.

Title: Re: New Democrat TV Ad
Post by: invflatspin on October 25, 2018, 08:01:08 PM
Well, you see liberals I don't trust you. I don't think you are being honest with us. Should the US have all three branches of govt in the hands of the liberals, then all those alt-left shit-sandwiches are possible. Gun control is the best example. The liberals will 'interpret' the word "infringed" to mean whatever they want it to mean. Nothing is cast in stone with the libs. They will break every law, extend every power(DREAM act), and force their policy in the face of concrete opposition(Obamacare).

The left is no longer a party of lawful respect for the constitution. Words mean whatever will advance the power-hungry party and twist the society to a place where we need permission to start a business, move our residence, etc.

People complain about Trump being power hungry. It's a complete lie. He's reduced the factor of govt in our lives. That's a good thing and I don't want to go back to being forced to have a women on our BOD(yes, that's a real thing now). I don't want to pay for the education of people here illegally. I also don't want to have open border(Beto in TX has already endorsed that, and he's running for a senate seat). I want to own 6 rifles, with 1200 rounds of ammo, and NOT ever register anything anywhere(lib judges have already ruled on registration at lower levels) for any reason.

The satire on that ad was soooooooo close to reality if the libs are allowed to run this country, that the rest of the nation woke up after 2012 and they were scared. Trump was no ones first choice. But - turn the reins of govt over to ---- Hillary? Are - you - fucking - kidding - me!!!??? Shockingly, from a policy perspective, Trump has knocked it out of the park. Sure there are things to improve with Trump. He's getting there. By the time 2020 rolls around he's going to be unstoppable. Go ahead, run Hillary again. Go for Booker, or SacajeWarren. Hickenlooper, I don't care. You could dig up JFK and he'd do a better job than any of the shit-wits currently at the top of the leftists.
Title: Re: New Democrat TV Ad
Post by: Number7 on October 25, 2018, 08:05:13 PM
And here you're lumping me in with people I would NEVER have anything to do with. The "militant homosexual movement"... people who piss on those who disagree with what they do.

I would never advocate forcing you (or anyone) to "walk in lockstep" with my beliefs on ANYTHING. That's utterly against everything I believe in. I don't demand you "understand, support, remain silent, or go away" with respect to any issue we disagree on. That's utter bullshit.

All I said is that if a company used their corporate might to try to deny me the right to marry someone I love, I reserve the right to fight back, peacefully, and in the only way that is consistent with my beliefs. That might include trying to persuade others to join me - but by reasoned argument and appeals to conscience, never by force or trying to use the power of the courts like Mullins and Craig did in the Phillips case. (In case you missed it, I agreed with SCOTUS in that case.)

Read what I wrote and stop reading into it things I never said. Sheesh...

Your argument, done poorly, was that those things do not represent the 36% of the country that register as democrats.

The fact is that the people ARE the party and they sit silent and let EVERY ONE OF THOSE THNGS be the party platform with pout comment.

The walk aways are an outlier and represent the sick silence of the half of the electorate that allow their party to be the party of hate, violence, repression, censorship, bigotry, racism, bullying, lies, corruption, vote fraud, mysogony and projection. It is a mentally disturbed party of truly sickening proportions and the members by their silence, endorse impeach and every sickening truth.
Title: Re: New Democrat TV Ad
Post by: invflatspin on October 25, 2018, 08:25:26 PM
Your argument, done poorly, was that those things do not represent the 36% of the country that register as democrats.

The fact is that the people ARE the party and they sit silent and let EVERY ONE OF THOSE THNGS be the party platform with pout comment.

The walk aways are an outlier and represent the sick silence of the half of the electorate that allow their party to be the party of hate, violence, repression, censorship, bigotry, racism, bullying, lies, corruption, vote fraud, mysogony and projection. It is a mentally disturbed party of truly sickening proportions and the members by their silence, endorse impeach and every sickening truth.

This is why I compared the dems to a religion in another thread. More accurately, as you've referenced it is actually more like a cult. Try to leave a cult, and you are in real danger from the cultists. It's close to mind control. the Dems could actually introduce legislation on removal of ICE and no border control, and there would likely be actual debate on the subject. It is just mind-blowing what kind of idiotic crap comes out of the mouths of libs who are in power now. Libs need to go to youtube and pick out some videos from the ONE leader you have right now - Pelosi. She is BRAIN DEAD. This is the woman who controls all that is liberal policy! She sounds like a mix of Alzheimers, and paranoid-schizophrenic. Don't look at the Reps for what's wrong. Libs put up and continue to back Pelosi. Get rid of her(as they should have 6 years ago) and maybe, I just might listen to Libs again. Until Pelosi is gone, we have nothing more to discuss.
Title: Re: New Democrat TV Ad
Post by: Lucifer on October 26, 2018, 04:53:44 AM
Even more telling is the democrats know their party has been hijacked by the alt left progressives, yet they do nothing to try to regain control of it.

 They are willing to put Nancy Pelosi back in as Speaker (if the dims take control) knowing full well her divisiveness and allegiance to the alt left agenda.

Blindly follow, and in lock step.
Title: Re: New Democrat TV Ad
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on October 26, 2018, 05:18:29 AM
Why is it that Democrats can't say what they really think.  Look at the most recent Project Veritas videos where they are actually caught saying what they really feel.
Title: Re: New Democrat TV Ad
Post by: Lucifer on October 26, 2018, 05:22:46 AM
Why is it that Democrats can't say what they really think.  Look at the most recent Project Veritas videos where they are actually caught saying what they really feel.

 If they do, then the punishment begins.  Just look at the few that have spoken up, and see their treatment in the MSM by the progressives.

As with most totalitarian societies, speaking up with a different viewpoint is forbidden.  The progressives embrace this same ideology.
Title: Re: New Democrat TV Ad
Post by: azure on October 26, 2018, 05:35:34 AM
Even more telling is the democrats know their party has been hijacked by the alt left progressives, yet they do nothing to try to regain control of it.

 They are willing to put Nancy Pelosi back in as Speaker (if the dims take control) knowing full well her divisiveness and allegiance to the alt left agenda.

Blindly follow, and in lock step.

I recall reports a month or two back that quite a few Dem candidates (~50) have declared they will not back her for Speaker if they win. Of course, that's a big IF, and doesn't say anything about those who keep their seats. More telling is that ~1/3 in the House voted against her during a recent challenge, though she still kept her leader status. But the fact remains, her support is not as strong as it was, and it's certainly not lockstep.
Title: Re: New Democrat TV Ad
Post by: Rush on October 26, 2018, 05:48:12 AM
I *hope* that what is happening is that people are waking up and realizing that supporting one side or the other consistently is abdicating the responsibility to think for oneself. Thinking for oneself usually entails reaching some conclusions that agree with one side, and others that agree with the other side. Then comes the hard work of prioritizing the issues and deciding which candidate agrees with your own positions in the most areas that you consider high priority, regardless of party.

I agree with this 100%.  Most of the walkaway videos are exactly this. People realizing that the Democrat party no longer represents their values but many are not automatically joining the Republican Party, but like many of us who have been voting Republican for a long time are just doing it to reject the Democrats who have become progressive leftists (communists- ty number 7)

The one common theme in all the walkaway videos is they are thinking for themselves for a change and making the decision to leave the herd.


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I used to reflexively vote Democratic because I didn't want to be bothered with doing that work, and because most Democratic candidates were at most center-left. The party has now, as you put it, been taken over by a radical minority to the point where I need to know a lot more about a Dem candidate before I will consider voting for them. That doesn't mean I won't vote for a Democrat, but it sure won't be a default choice.

I haven't walked away from the Democratic party; I was never a registered member anyway. But they've sure walked away from me.

That's exactly what Roseanne Barr said and she's right.  Back in the 60's the Democrat party was not communist but some of the youth of the day, who like all youth can be seduced by stupidity, became enamoured with collectivism (Marxism, Leninism, post modernism, progressivism, socialism, communism, all different flavors of the same thing) and realizing that they had no chance of direct revolution made a concrete and documented plan to execute a takeover by infiltrating the powerful institutions of the country: education, government, and large corporations.

Since they had no chance of doing this outside the two party system they did it within the Democrat party.  And that's how the Democrat party gradually got taken over by the progressive left.
Title: Re: New Democrat TV Ad
Post by: Rush on October 26, 2018, 05:53:44 AM
This is why I compared the dems to a religion in another thread. More accurately, as you've referenced it is actually more like a cult. Try to leave a cult, and you are in real danger from the cultists. It's close to mind control. the Dems could actually introduce legislation on removal of ICE and no border control, and there would likely be actual debate on the subject. It is just mind-blowing what kind of idiotic crap comes out of the mouths of libs who are in power now. Libs need to go to youtube and pick out some videos from the ONE leader you have right now - Pelosi. She is BRAIN DEAD. This is the woman who controls all that is liberal policy! She sounds like a mix of Alzheimers, and paranoid-schizophrenic. Don't look at the Reps for what's wrong. You put up and continue to back Pelosi. Get rid of her(as you should have 6 years ago) and maybe, I just might listen to you again. Until Pelosi is gone, we have nothing more to discuss.

Yes a cult, that's much more accurate. And like all cults they won't let you leave.
Title: Re: New Democrat TV Ad
Post by: Rush on October 26, 2018, 06:04:17 AM
If they do, then the punishment begins.  Just look at the few that have spoken up, and see their treatment in the MSM by the progressives.

As with most totalitarian societies, speaking up with a different viewpoint is forbidden.  The progressives embrace this same ideology.

One more clue that the progressive left is the same ilk as all communist totalitarian regimes. Your money isn't yours, it's the government's. We dictate social rules. You cannot speak out against us. You cannot have arms (except as a soldier for us for example when we federalize your private property). You need to come to us for the necessities of life, we will be your mommy and your daddy.
Title: Re: New Democrat TV Ad
Post by: Lucifer on October 26, 2018, 07:12:13 AM
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Title: Re: New Democrat TV Ad
Post by: invflatspin on October 26, 2018, 07:21:18 AM
Yes a cult, that's much more accurate. And like all cults they won't let you leave.

Serendipity strikes: https://dailycaller.com/2018/10/25/police-arrest-man-north-carolina-gop-campaign/

Try to support the GOP while black, and the loving and inclusive dems show their respect. Just - like - the - parody - video!
Title: Re: New Democrat TV Ad
Post by: Lucifer on October 26, 2018, 07:25:04 AM
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Title: Re: New Democrat TV Ad
Post by: Number7 on October 26, 2018, 08:28:28 AM
Serendipity strikes: https://dailycaller.com/2018/10/25/police-arrest-man-north-carolina-gop-campaign/

Try to support the GOP while black, and the loving and inclusive dems show their respect. Just - like - the - parody - video!

Right on schedule, the jack booted thugs of the left intimidating voters.