PILOT SPIN
Spin Zone => Spin Zone => Topic started by: President-Elect Bob Noel on May 01, 2020, 10:52:55 AM
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We've heard many times that many people who test positive never show any symptoms but are still able to spread COVID-19.
What we never hear, no one ever mentions, that it also means that being infected with COVID-19 doesn't always result in any illness. In fact, many many people have COVID-19 and don't get sick. Many more people will get COVID-19 and never get sick. And most of the people who get sick only suffer mild symptoms.
We only hear about deaths, contagions, dire consequences.
I can't respect or trust people who only talk about how we are all going to die and who refuse to acknowledge how low the CFR is.
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The MEDIA and Democrats have convinced many people that anyone who is infected by this Chinese Flu is receiving a DEATH SENTENCE. I see it on other web forums and in comment sections of articles on the virus. People today PANIC easily and the Dem/Media cabal is capitalizing on that. Most may not know they have it, most of the rest get mild cold and flu symptoms. Those that are old and/or otherwise compromised NEED to be much more careful!
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I was talking to a neighbor yesterday (yes we stood 6 feet apart) and she was talking about how she isn’t going to go out even though Texas is opening up restaurants today. So I played into that and said, yes, we won’t be really sure we won’t get it until there is widespread antibody testing so we know most people have gotten it and become immune.
And she said, “we don’t know that means you’re immune!” She has been reading the lying fake news that keeps saying, “we don’t know for sure that having the antibody means you’re immune” when we know good and well that it does. That’s what an antibody is! How do you think anyone recovers from it? Their immune system defeats it. What we don’t know is how long that protection lasts but based on other viruses it is expected to last years to life. If the virus mutates you still have partial immunity. Why aren’t these facts being presented?
Fauci, CDC, Birx and the media are all playing a disgusting game of misleading the public in order to drag out the shutdown. I’m becoming convinced it is deliberate and they don’t want to reopen the economy. My neighbor will never want to go back out until there is a vaccine, because she is being lied to about immunity.
And the sad thing is, natural immunity from the disease is more effective than vaccines. As a whole the population would be way better off if we go ahead and let a bunch of people get exposed and develop natural immunity.
But by discouraging people from going out, and when they do go out making them wear masks and disinfect everything, we are delaying that process and simultaneously destroying the economy. If we descend into an economic depression while also failing to acquire herd immunity we will continue to be at great risk from not only covid19 but every flu bug that comes along due the overall weakening of our bodies and our financial and emotional health.
There is no end in sight. They are talking about not opening schools even in the fall. People are so brainwashed by fear they are presiding over the rotting corpse of the U.S. economy and will not get clue until their food deliveries stop. If you think that’s not coming, you are not paying attention.
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The MEDIA and Democrats have convinced many people that anyone who is infected by this Chinese Flu is receiving a DEATH SENTENCE. I see it on other web forums and in comment sections of articles on the virus. People today PANIC easily and the Dem/Media cabal is capitalizing on that. Most may not know they have it, most of the rest get mild cold and flu symptoms. Those that are old and/or otherwise compromised NEED to be much more careful!
That is nothing new. The elderly or otherwise compromised have always need to be more careful.
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And the worst news of all... Oshkosh 2020 is cancelled.
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And she said, “we don’t know that means you’re immune!” She has been reading the lying fake news that keeps saying, “we don’t know for sure that having the antibody means you’re immune” when we know good and well that it does. That’s what an antibody is! How do you think anyone recovers from it? Their immune system defeats it. What we don’t know is how long that protection lasts but based on other viruses it is expected to last years to life. If the virus mutates you still have partial immunity.
I love when they say the natural antibody may not mean you are immune. Isn’t that how vaccine work tricking your body into making antibodys
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And the worst news of all... Oshkosh 2020 is cancelled.
Yeah, that sucks. Was considering going as it has been a few years and I was looking forward to hiring Stan to stuff Steingar into a locker at his Origami presentation.
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I love when they say the natural antibody may not mean you are immune. Isn’t that how vaccine work tricking your body into making antibodys
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Yep, it’s so frustrating the level of stupid out there and how the public eats up this stuff.
I’m about to delete my account over on that other forum. They’re going around and around in circles rehashing the same garbage they’re getting from the media. Two months into this and 50 pages of posts and they still don’t know the difference between chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine. I am so done.
You would think they WANT the country to disintegrate into mass poverty by how they’re hell bent on defending this insane shutdown.
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Just got off a stupid zoom meeting with a bunch of liberals. When I mentioned (after an hour of great restraint) the fear mongering and economic devastation, the liberal-est one (a hopeless case) left the meeting immediately. That’s what she does.
Her constructs challenged and narrative questioned? Leave the room, leave the zoom, she’s really good at leaving.
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Just got off a stupid zoom meeting with a bunch of liberals. When I mentioned (after an hour of great restraint) the fear mongering and economic devastation, the liberal-est one (a hopeless case) left the meeting immediately. That’s what she does.
Her constructs challenged and narrative questioned? Leave the room, leave the zoom, she’s really good at leaving.
Yep, we've seen that here with a few as well.
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Yep, we've seen that here with a few as well.
A few?
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But good Lord, my lib friend was saying people were dropping dead of strokes related to this virus. “Or not,” I said. That made her mad.
Literally everything people are dying of now is somehow caused by the Chinese virus.
Costco is requiring masks now.
Every household has someone going to the grocery store for them. Where are the grocery store deaths?
Insane.
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But good Lord, my lib friend was saying people were dropping dead of strokes related to this virus. “Or not,” I said. That made her mad.
Literally everything people are dying of now is somehow caused by the Chinese virus.
To be fair, there is now evidence (and a theory) that the virus “attacks” the inner lining of blood vessels in such a way that blood clots are formed, which is leading to strokes among other peculiar symptoms. The molecular biology of what they believe is happening is somewhat involved and if interested I can link to some Youtube videos where the theory is explained in terms a layperson may be able to comprehend the general gist. Then you would know more than your friend!
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But good Lord, my lib friend was saying people were dropping dead of strokes related to this virus. “Or not,” I said. That made her mad.
Literally everything people are dying of now is somehow caused by the Chinese virus.
Costco is requiring masks now.
Every household has someone going to the grocery store for them. Where are the grocery store deaths?
Insane.
careful, there are in fact grocery store workers that have COVID-19 and at least one worker in Massachusetts died (it made the news - no surprise because that news helped fuel the hyteria).
The counterpoint is that grocery store workers die even without the virus. Last year a lovely sweet lady who worked at Stop&Shop I frequent passed away.
In Massachusetts, on average, we can expect to see some 165 deaths daily, with almost 90% of those 55 and older. In Massachusetts, over the previous 5 years, monthly deaths of nursing home (etc) patients ranged from 1100 to 1700 per month (this was the number indicated during a press conference by the Massachusetts Sect of health or whatever her title is).
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https://www.aier.org/article/woodstock-occurred-in-the-middle-of-a-pandemic/?fbclid=IwAR2g6mYykddCRAXOQZydeuo3Y-228SlmEHI3hFtX9iNu3PvML0Ho6049aWg
Enjoy....how did we survive?
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We tourde state parks again yesterday. We've run out of ones close by so my plotted out three to the SE of us. Before it was over, I drove 465 miles to send maybe an hour and half total at the three parks.
On the plus side, while headed home we jumped off I-16 at Dublin, GA and took a peek at Cracker Barrel, no dine in. As we're driving around the building my wife spots a Longhorn Steakhouse and lot is quite full, winner!!
We went in, waited maybe five minutes to be seated and enjoyed a nice dinner. Left the server a nice tip as she had been off for a bit, said they only needed four servers before they reopened the dining room.
Also noticed they were still doing a fairly brisk carry-out and curbside business.
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We went out to eat last night! For the first time in over a month. As we entered the restaurant they checked our temperatures with the forehead laser thingie and then put tape around our wrists to prove we were safe, and told us to sit at any table that did not have a big red x on it. (Every other table). They gave us paper menus which they threw in the trash after we ordered and the waitress had mask and gloves on and brought us our food in disposable to-go styrofoam containers. They had Purell bottles on each table. We got there real early because the place is usually packed and we knew capacity would be limited. By the time we left it had filled up to about what it could. I’m glad a lot of people aren’t afraid to venture out.
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I still think we are going to see a very robust recovery.
https://www.news-journalonline.com/news/20200501/coronavirus-volusia-hotel-reservations-spike-as-beaches-relax-rules
DAYTONA BEACH SHORES — After weeks of gloom and doom during the coronavirus crisis, a little sunshine is breaking through the clouds for beachside hoteliers in Volusia County.
A spike in reservations was reported Friday at some hotels in the wake of Thursday’s announcement by Volusia County officials that beaches would be reopening for all activities on Saturday.
[NEW BEACH RULES: What you need to know]
“Today and tomorrow we only have about five rooms left to sell for this weekend, which is amazing news,” said Linda Bowers, area director of sales for the 105-room Residence Inn By Marrio
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I still think we are going to see a very robust recovery.
I hope you are right and I hope it happens FAST.
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We went out to eat last night! For the first time in over a month. As we entered the restaurant they checked our temperatures with the forehead laser thingie and then put tape around our wrists to prove we were safe, and told us to sit at any table that did not have a big red x on it. (Every other table). They gave us paper menus which they threw in the trash after we ordered and the waitress had mask and gloves on and brought us our food in disposable to-go styrofoam containers. They had Purell bottles on each table. We got there real early because the place is usually packed and we knew capacity would be limited. By the time we left it had filled up to about what it could. I’m glad a lot of people aren’t afraid to venture out.
I think I'd rather do the Bataan death march.
(not really)
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I think I'd rather do the Bataan death march.
(not really)
My sister called and told me this is what just happened. She was picking up a pizza at a curbside pickup.
First, they required you call them on your cell when you arrive, even though there were "fifteen people" standing right there looking at her.
Then, they put the pizza box, with their bare hands, on a rolling cart, and roll it out to you, from which you are to pick up the box.
Then, they tell you to put your money on the rolling cart (can't hand it to them).
Then, they roll the cart back, and pick the money up with their bare hands.
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Theater.
(edit: Is any of the "guidance" discussing the use of gloves for non-medical activities?)
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Sometimes perspective helps. The DOW was at 18,847 on 11.7.2016 and had risen to 20,093 by 1.23.17. It reached a peak of 29,398 before the virus hit. It is currently around 24,302 as I write this. The DOW rose 10,581 since election day and is still 5,455 ahead of where it was on 11.7.2016. It is still up more than it is down today from the peak.
I posted this on FB earlier in the week.
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Sometimes perspective helps. The DOW was at 18,847 on 11.7.2016 and had risen to 20,093 by 1.23.17. It reached a peak of 29,398 before the virus hit. It is currently around 24,302 as I write this. The DOW rose 10,581 since election day and is still 5,455 ahead of where it was on 11.7.2016. It is still up more than it is down today from the peak.
I posted this on FB earlier in the week.
I was thinking that earlier today, as I've seen the markets start to rebound recently. I think the DOW dipped just under 20,000 at its lowest due to the Virus scare. I think when things start to reopen in the next few weeks it will surge again.
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I was thinking that earlier today, as I've seen the markets start to rebound recently. I think the DOW dipped just under 20,000 at its lowest due to the Virus scare. I think when things start to reopen in the next few weeks it will surge again.
What pisses me off is yesterday the market reacted to bad quarterly numbers. Were we expecting good quarterly numbers? I mean WTF.
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What pisses me off is yesterday the market reacted to bad quarterly numbers. Were we expecting good quarterly numbers? I mean WTF.
yet another reason I don't want any part of managing stock investments.
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yet another reason I don't want any part of managing stock investments.
My observation is that the markets over sell and over buy. More over sell, so if you are able, there is money to be made during the panic like we've seen recently.
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Theater.
(edit: Is any of the "guidance" discussing the use of gloves for non-medical activities?)
Yes theater! I went to Walmart and they now have the one way aisles. It’s so ludicrous I can hardly believe it’s happening. It’s like people believing in superstition. Where is the science that says we are less likely to get a virus if we all walk in the same direction in store aisles?
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Yes theater! I went to Walmart and they now have the one way aisles. It’s so ludicrous I can hardly believe it’s happening. It’s like people believing in superstition. Where is the science that says we are less likely to get a virus if we all walk in the same direction in store aisles?
The marketing pukes must love the idea of forcing people to walk up and down all the aisles.
I wonder if the people who love the idea of one-way aisles (which superficially is intended to increase "social distance") understand that limiting the number of customers probably increases "social distance" more than one-way aisles.
btw - customers are already adjusting to this one-way nonsense. They leave their cart at the end of the aisle and walk down the aisle. Kind of defeating the anal desires of the control freaks.
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Yes theater! I went to Walmart and they now have the one way aisles. It’s so ludicrous I can hardly believe it’s happening. It’s like people believing in superstition. Where is the science that says we are less likely to get a virus if we all walk in the same direction in store aisles?
I hate those one-way isles. Invariably, the item I want is in an isle going the wrong decision, so I go to the next isle, and it is crammed with people that I have to squeeze by. I wind up going up and down isles I don't need to be in and breathing on, and inhaling from more people that necessary, since we all wear our masks wrong.
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I was at the garden center the other day, and many people wearing masks kept pulling them off to talk so people at a little distance could hear what they were saying. Then fumbling to pull the mask back on. With their hands. That hadn’t just been washed.
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Just look at the lunacy of the TSA and their procedures at the airport.
Any wonder why this "virus theater" is such a shit show?
Just wait, there will be more.
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I hate those one-way isles. Invariably, the item I want is in an isle going the wrong decision, so I go to the next isle, and it is crammed with people that I have to squeeze by. I wind up going up and down isles I don't need to be in and breathing on, and inhaling from more people that necessary, since we all wear our masks wrong.
This. I had to leave the place early before I went postal.
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I was listening to a local sports talk radio show this morning and I guess they ha a "virus expert" on and he kept saying we are just in the "second inning" now to give it a sports connection. He had this glee in his voice like it was a good thing, laughing and telling everyone we have to keep safe and keep this shutdown. What a fucking crock of shit. VIRUS THEATER indeed!
This is what happens when you let Portland and Eugene run the State!
SALEM, Ore -- The current state of emergency due to the coronavirus pandemic that was set to expire on May 7th, will be in place for an additional 60 days.
Governor Brown signed executive order No.20-24 on Friday that extends the original declaration made back on March 8th, through July 6th. Brown issued the original order at the time Oregon had 14 positive cases of the coronavirus.
https://www.kdrv.com/content/news/Governor-Brown-extends-coronavirus-state-of-emergency-through-July-570145731.html
Look at that KOOK Liberal (Commie)!
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Just look at the lunacy of the TSA and their procedures at the airport.
Any wonder why this "virus theater" is such a shit show?
Just wait, there will be more.
I've been trying to find out if any TSA agents have been furloughed.
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I've been trying to find out if any TSA agents have been furloughed.
Good question. I heard that the number of people they have to molest is reduced by 90%.
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https://www.kdrv.com/content/news/Governor-Brown-extends-coronavirus-state-of-emergency-through-July-570145731.html
Look at that KOOK Liberal (Commie)!
So glad to have moved from Oregon to South Dakota.
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So glad to have moved from Oregon to South Dakota.
The Governor of South Dakota is excellent and a major Babe.
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_0MAh0_Oa3iU/TLUg2kyra4I/AAAAAAAAA08/G8eV4lz7E90/s1600/Kristi+Noem+Wiki++Kristi+Noem+Pics+3.jpg)
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I've been trying to find out if any TSA agents have been furloughed.
Far as I know, no.
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Far as I know, no.
Have any government workers been furloughed....
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Have any government workers been furloughed....
I haven’t seen anything on it.
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Gubmint workers are “essential” doncha know.
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Gubmint workers are “essential” doncha know.
except when it snows...
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The Governor of South Dakota is excellent and a major Babe.
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_0MAh0_Oa3iU/TLUg2kyra4I/AAAAAAAAA08/G8eV4lz7E90/s1600/Kristi+Noem+Wiki++Kristi+Noem+Pics+3.jpg)
She can’t swim or slow dance. But she says “I can still ride horse, I can still shoot a gun, so you know, what else do you need in the state of South Dakota?”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-5MNQgLaNk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-5MNQgLaNk)
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She can’t swim or slow dance. But she says “I can still ride horse, I can still shoot a gun, so you know, what else do you need in the state of South Dakota?”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-5MNQgLaNk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-5MNQgLaNk)
That's hilarious.
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Our daily moving average is down to 150 cases per day. Still watching to see if there is any kind of spike due to our reopening. Democrats will be really pissed off if there isn't
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Our daily moving average is down to 150 cases per day. Still watching to see if there is any kind of spike due to our reopening. Democrats will be really pissed off if there isn't
They'll just start manufacturing numbers, and twisting statistics.
Covid19 has become a dream come true to the progressives. No way will they let this one go, no matter how wrong they are proven.
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They'll just start manufacturing numbers, and twisting statistics.
Covid19 has become a dream come true to the progressives. No way will they let this one go, no matter how wrong they are proven.
The reason they can do that is they have 98% of the Media repeating their lies and spewing Democrat propaganda. I can't believe people believe that crap.
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Our daily moving average is down to 150 cases per day. Still watching to see if there is any kind of spike due to our reopening. Democrats will be really pissed off if there isn't
Just do what Minnesota has done and double the number of tests per day. Shocking the number of cases go up then.
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Yeah, that sucks. Was considering going as it has been a few years and I was looking forward to hiring Stan to stuff Steingar into a locker at his Origami presentation.
Ha! Just caught this. Damn, funny stuff Anthony!