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Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on June 25, 2019, 11:58:24 AM
Project Veritas.
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Insider Blows Whistle & Exec Reveals Google Plan to Prevent “Trump situation” in 2020 on Hidden Cam
https://www.projectveritas.com/video/insider-blows-whistle-exec-reveals-google-plan-to-prevent-trump-situation-in-2020-on-hidden-cam/
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Post by: Anthony on June 25, 2019, 01:44:10 PM
This has been well know for a while, but this is more confirmation.  Google, Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, Microsoft, Apple, Amazon, in fact all of Silicon Valley and Social Media hate Trump and Republicans in general.  They censor anything that isn't far left progressive, and promote a far left, globalist, open borders agenda. 

All they care about is profits, which is FINE, but at the expense of the U.S. and most of its citizens.  That's why they like illegal aliens and Indians on H1 Visas so much.  Cheap labor = more profit, but fewer jobs for Americans.  Nice, huh? 
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Post by: Mr Pou on June 26, 2019, 05:35:55 AM
This has been well know for a while, but this is more confirmation.  Google, Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, Microsoft, Apple, Amazon, in fact all of Silicon Valley and Social Media hate Trump and Republicans in general.  They censor anything that isn't far left progressive, and promote a far left, globalist, open borders agenda. 

All they care about is profits, which is FINE, but at the expense of the U.S. and most of its citizens.  That's why they like illegal aliens and Indians on H1 Visas so much.  Cheap labor = more profit, but fewer jobs for Americans.  Nice, huh?

H-1B, ruined engineering as a decent professional career.
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Post by: Anthony on June 26, 2019, 07:50:07 AM
H-1B, ruined engineering as a decent professional career.

I know this will seem like Xenophobia, but I have no problem with people legally coming here for a better life.  However, our GOVERNMENT policy has been wrong with allowing corporations to control this type of immigration for fun and profit. 

In my area, we have entire communities of Indians that have literally taken over developments.  They cluster as they are only comfortable with their own, and minimize interaction with he "White" community.  They have taken millions of IT, engineering, STEM, and other jobs as they will work for a bit less than their American counterparts.  I am not saying it is their fault or that they are bad neighbors, but our government has been irresponsible by bowing to these corporations to give them cheap labor at the expense of American workers.

So now instead of having to "outsource" overseas, or locate foreign operations to get cheap labor, they are just bringing them here.  That's why they also want Open Borders and cheap ILLEGAL labor. 

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Post by: Username on June 26, 2019, 08:32:22 AM
I'm not disagreeing, but I don't know how this works.  I would think that outsourcing to India would be cheaper (even after taking into account the huge amount of process control to make it work) than bringing workers over here.  Wage + benefits for workers in the US should be much higher than wage + benefits for India even taking into account the lower wage for foreign workers.  I would much rather see US citizens have priority in hiring... I just don't understand how the profit motive works.
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Post by: Rush on June 26, 2019, 08:50:38 AM
I know this will seem like Xenophobia, but I have no problem with people legally coming here for a better life.  However, our GOVERNMENT policy has been wrong with allowing corporations to control this type of immigration for fun and profit. 

In my area, we have entire communities of Indians that have literally taken over developments.  They cluster as they are only comfortable with their own, and minimize interaction with he "White" community.  They have taken millions of IT, engineering, STEM, and other jobs as they will work for a bit less than their American counterparts.  I am not saying it is their fault or that they are bad neighbors, but our government has been irresponsible by bowing to these corporations to give them cheap labor at the expense of American workers.

So now instead of having to "outsource" overseas, or locate foreign operations to get cheap labor, they are just bringing them here.  That's why they also want Open Borders and cheap ILLEGAL labor.

This is the result of mixing different economies. American wages were driven up by unions, minimum wage laws, and higher standard of living. And the cost of living was driven up by environmental and other regulations. When code requires indoor plumbing, you pay more for a house. The wage/cost of living equation is in balance as long as we are isolated. When you bring in workers from an economy at a lower level, normal American wages seem incredibly rich, so they will accept less and when they send it back home it has much more buying power there than here. This is what’s driving the loss of jobs to immigrants. The same applies to outsourcing the work overseas.

Complete isolation is not the answer. When countries enter the first world, their birth rate crashes. We are facing a terrible problem of not enough babies to support our future. But unlimited immigration is also not the answer, because it dilutes and eventually could destroy our culture (including our Constitutional government). It also results in this short term problem of immigrants taking jobs at lower wages (or salaries) and leaving what native young people we do create, jobless.

Too many immigrants too fast leads to these pockets of communities that won’t integrate. They tend to want to transplant their culture in pure form and that is very dangerous to our way of life (think Sharia law).

Too few immigrants or complete isolation will only exacerbate the economic gap and will eventually leave us with an upside down pyramid of many sick unproductive old people and few young ones to support them (either directly through social programs or direct parental care, or indirectly through maintaining a strong economy.) All our young will have jobs but we will have the opposite problem: too many jobs and no one to fill them.

The best immigrants are those who integrate into our culture but also bring something of theirs to contribute to keep our culture dynamic and interesting, but not to erase our culture and replace it with theirs. This sort of immigrant should, within a couple generations, merge into our level of economy, as they lose touch with their relatives back in the old country and stop sending money home, and become accustomed to our higher standard of living, their salary and wage demands should eventually equal out. That of course, doesn’t apply to outsourcing.

As the various second and third world nations rise to our standard, this problem should sort itself out. In that way I am for a “global economy”, but not in the way the left thinks of it.

Think of it as two buckets of water with a connecting pipe that you can plug. The buckets have different levels of water which remain different if you keep the pipe plugged. Each bucket’s level could rise or fall from other factors and remain different or could coincidentally end up the same. But if you unplug the pipe, water will run from the higher one to the lower one and eventually the levels will be equal. If you do this all at once, the change will happen rapidly and will be painful. But if you do it slowly, maybe use a control valve, changes will be smaller and take longer and so be more easy to adjust to.

The ideal scenario is you are adding water to the low level bucket (bringing third world countries up to our standards - best done through capitalism) - so that the drain on the higher bucket is not as much or even with time could not drain at all, but both buckets become more full.

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Post by: Anthony on June 26, 2019, 09:11:56 AM
^^^^^Good analogy to equilibrium Rush.  The Global economy is making the U.S. "suffer" the equilibrium of other countries' lower wage and lower cost structure.  At some point their costs will rise also as their population demands more of the same characteristics we have.  It is a slow process however, but we have been on the receiving end of it since the 1960's.