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Spin Zone => Spin Zone => Topic started by: JeffDG on June 22, 2016, 02:27:06 PM

Title: Limits
Post by: JeffDG on June 22, 2016, 02:27:06 PM
You know, anyone qualified should be able to throw their hat in the ring to run for Congress, right?


Well, this has popped up in my district:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CllU-1LUYAA8D7m.jpg:large)


What a fucktard.
Title: Re: Limits
Post by: Mase on June 22, 2016, 07:01:33 PM
I would be ashamed to have my name on a sign like that.  Maybe it was put up by his opponent, dirty tricks.

Well, no.

Title: Re: Limits
Post by: Steingar on June 23, 2016, 05:59:00 AM
The problem with Democracy is the electorate often winds up with the government they deserve.
Title: Re: Limits
Post by: Little Joe on June 23, 2016, 06:09:18 AM
The problem with Democracy is the electorate often winds up with the government they deserve.
Or about two thirds of them do. (The third that votes for the assholes and the third that doesn't vote).

And if you are part of the last third, what are your options.  Our country is still better than most others, and most people here still speak English.  I'm too old to learn another language, especially with my bad hearing.
Title: Re: Limits
Post by: bflynn on June 23, 2016, 08:23:31 AM
You know, anyone qualified should be able to throw their hat in the ring to run for Congress, right?

...

What a fucktard.

Him for running or you for criticizing his lifestyle choices?
Title: Re: Limits
Post by: asechrest on June 23, 2016, 08:28:03 AM
Him for running or you for criticizing his lifestyle choices?

Making America white again is a lifestyle choice?
Title: Re: Limits
Post by: Steingar on June 23, 2016, 08:42:24 AM
Or about two thirds of them do. (The third that votes for the assholes and the third that doesn't vote).

And if you are part of the last third, what are your options.  Our country is still better than most others, and most people here still speak English.  I'm too old to learn another language, especially with my bad hearing.

The one good thing about our form of democracy is despite its faults at the endow the day the folks running things have some degree of legitimacy.  A majority voted for them.  Beats just about anything else.
Title: Re: Limits
Post by: Mase on June 23, 2016, 08:45:10 AM
The one good thing about our form of democracy is despite its faults at the endow the day the folks running things have some degree of legitimacy.  A majority voted for them.  Beats just about anything else.

Without better control over vote fraud, that is not assured.
Title: Re: Limits
Post by: bflynn on June 23, 2016, 12:03:41 PM
Making America white again is a lifestyle choice?

It's not one I'm going to choose, but yes, it is.  I don't believe many will vote for him, but he is not doing anything illegal so it's his right to declare his beliefs, to be proud and secure in them.  You cannot discriminate against him because of who it is, he wasn't in control of being created to be as he is.


Title: Re: Limits
Post by: pilot_dude on June 23, 2016, 12:08:54 PM
To quote Louis Farrakhan on a comment made about Rudi Giuliani, this guy may be another "white privileged cracker".  ;)
Title: Re: Limits
Post by: asechrest on June 23, 2016, 12:13:37 PM
It's not one I'm going to choose, but yes, it is.  I don't believe many will vote for him, but he is not doing anything illegal so it's his right to declare his beliefs, to be proud and secure in them.  You cannot discriminate against him because of who it is, he wasn't in control of being created to be as he is.

Are you being facetious?

Choosing to wear no-show socks or eat vegan is a lifestyle choice. Making America white again is not a lifestyle choice. And no one is arguing that he doesn't have the right to declare his beliefs and be proud of them, but he certainly is in control of who he is.
Title: Re: Limits
Post by: Jaybird180 on June 30, 2016, 01:40:07 PM
The one good thing about our form of democracy is despite its faults at the endow the day the folks running things have some degree of legitimacy.  A majority voted for them.  Beats just about anything else.

Democracy is the worst form of government except all the others that have been tried. - Winston Churchill
Title: Re: Limits
Post by: bflynn on June 30, 2016, 02:33:57 PM
Are you being facetious?

Choosing to wear no-show socks or eat vegan is a lifestyle choice. Making America white again is not a lifestyle choice. And no one is arguing that he doesn't have the right to declare his beliefs and be proud of them, but he certainly is in control of who he is.

I am absolutely not being facetious, I'm being liberal, with a lower case "L".  Or libertarian if you prefer.  I'm promoting freedom.

if you want to argue the semantics of whether "lifestyle" is the correct word or not, I'm not interested. 
Title: Re: Limits
Post by: asechrest on June 30, 2016, 02:53:34 PM
I am absolutely not being facetious, I'm being liberal, with a lower case "L".  Or libertarian if you prefer.  I'm promoting freedom.

if you want to argue the semantics of whether "lifestyle" is the correct word or not, I'm not interested.

Ok, then you're wrong.  :)

While I will agree with you that he's doing nothing illegal, he is certainly in control of who he is, and I'm free to "discriminate" against him for his ridiculous views. I put that in quotation marks because considering him an idiot doesn't qualify as discrimination.

PS - Is hating Irish people a lifestyle choice?