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Spin Zone => Spin Zone => Topic started by: Steingar on June 24, 2016, 11:59:16 AM

Title: Brent Scowcroft endorses Hillary
Post by: Steingar on June 24, 2016, 11:59:16 AM
Yup, the National Security advisor to Bush the Elder and Ford, has endorsed the Hildebeast, along with Richard Armitage, who those of you with short memories will have forgotten worked in the administrations of Bush the Younger and Reagan.  Said Scowcroft: "She brings deep expertise in international affairs and a sophisticated understanding of the world, which I believe are essential for the commander-in-chief."
Title: Re: Brent Scowcroft endorses Hillary
Post by: Lucifer on June 24, 2016, 12:26:27 PM
As with most politics, follow the money.
Title: Re: Brent Scowcroft endorses Hillary
Post by: Dav8or on June 24, 2016, 08:07:54 PM
As with most politics, follow the money.

I doubt it's money. I would assume it's because this guy has experience in world politics and understands that Trump would be an absolute disaster with unknown consequences, where as Hillary would be more manageable. Because it is binary, he is picking Hillary not because he likes her, or endorses her party platform, but more...  because Trump.  :o
Title: Re: Brent Scowcroft endorses Hillary
Post by: Anthony on June 25, 2016, 02:55:53 AM
I doubt it's money. I would assume it's because this guy has experience in world politics and understands that Trump would be an absolute disaster with unknown consequences, where as Hillary would be more manageable. Because it is binary, he is picking Hillary not because he likes her, or endorses her party platform, but more...  because Trump.  :o

You are so wrong it makes my brain hurt.
Title: Re: Brent Scowcroft endorses Hillary
Post by: Little Joe on June 25, 2016, 04:16:56 AM
I doubt it's money. I would assume it's because this guy has experience in world politics and understands that Trump would be an absolute disaster with unknown consequences, where as Hillary would be more manageable. Because it is binary, he is picking Hillary not because he likes her, or endorses her party platform, but more...  because Trump.  :o
Be careful.  I got roundly scolded on here when I suggested it was a binary choice.

But these endorsements don't surprise me too much, coming from established career politicians/bureaucrats.  The Trump movement is a repudiation of the status quo.  Those that created the mess we have on our hands feel threatened.

Title: Re: Brent Scowcroft endorses Hillary
Post by: Lucifer on June 25, 2016, 06:00:51 AM
Be careful.  I got roundly scolded on here when I suggested it was a binary choice.

But these endorsements don't surprise me too much, coming from established career politicians/bureaucrats.  The Trump movement is a repudiation of the status quo.  Those that created the mess we have on our hands feel threatened.

Let's see, Mr. Scowcroft is a "strategic partner" with Torch Hill Investments, a company that is heavily involved in various government contracts.  Having a pal in the WH will certainly benefit him there.

 Then he is a director of Enron Global Power, so having a friend in high places will be an asset also considering the international business they are involved in (TPP will also be a huge boost to this company).

 Then he is also a director of Quallcom Spinco, so that WH connection will com in handy there as well. He's even a director for Pennzoil-Quaker State so again, a WH connection will help grease the skids.

 So please tell me again how this is not financially motivated?
Title: Re: Brent Scowcroft endorses Hillary
Post by: Little Joe on June 25, 2016, 06:59:36 AM
I doubt it's money.


You are joking; aren't you?
Title: Re: Brent Scowcroft endorses Hillary
Post by: Dav8or on June 25, 2016, 08:59:44 AM
Let's see, Mr. Scowcroft is a "strategic partner" with Torch Hill Investments, a company that is heavily involved in various government contracts.  Having a pal in the WH will certainly benefit him there.

 Then he is a director of Enron Global Power, so having a friend in high places will be an asset also considering the international business they are involved in (TPP will also be a huge boost to this company).

 Then he is also a director of Quallcom Spinco, so that WH connection will com in handy there as well. He's even a director for Pennzoil-Quaker State so again, a WH connection will help grease the skids.

 So please tell me again how this is not financially motivated?

Neat, but riddle me this- Why didn't he endorse Mr. big businessman and fellow conservative? Would he not enjoy all the same exact benefits from Trump, a guy who totally understands how government connections can help your business? I'll put it like this. OK, it is about money and basically Scowcroft is saying that Trump would be bad for business, his business, so he is pragmatically picking the other one.
Title: Re: Brent Scowcroft endorses Hillary
Post by: Lucifer on June 25, 2016, 09:08:17 AM
Neat, but riddle me this- Why didn't he endorse Mr. big businessman and fellow conservative? Would he not enjoy all the same exact benefits from Trump, a guy who totally understands how government connections can help your business? I'll put it like this. OK, it is about money and basically Scowcroft is saying that Trump would be bad for business, his business, so he is pragmatically picking the other one.

Trump is against the TPP, Hillary supports it.   Scowcrofts business affiliations will benefit from TPP.

Also his business affiliations benefit from government contracts. These contracts are awarded on cronyism at greatly inflated rates. Trump has said this needs to stop.

IOW, Scowcroft is protecting his business interest and a Hillary presidency will do just that.

Follow the money.
Title: Re: Brent Scowcroft endorses Hillary
Post by: WildEye on June 26, 2016, 01:20:00 PM
Does Trump even know what TPP is ?   ;D
Title: Re: Brent Scowcroft endorses Hillary
Post by: JeffDG on June 26, 2016, 01:51:52 PM
Does Trump even know what TPP is ?   ;D
I'd lay decent odds that if asked by a reporter, he'd say "Personally, I like Quilted Northern."