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Title: Jack Daniel’s Embraces a Hidden Ingredient: Help From a Slave
Post by: Jaybird180 on June 28, 2016, 02:24:18 PM
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/26/dining/jack-daniels-whiskey-nearis-green-slave.html?em_pos=medium&emc=edit_rr_20160628&nl=race-related&nl_art=5&nlid=74881817&ref=headline&te=1&mtrref=undefined&gwh=0C384F93A7E562D7FC117B11BCD12B56&gwt=pay&_r=1
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This year is the 150th anniversary of Jack Daniel’s, and the distillery, home to one of the world’s best-selling whiskeys, is using the occasion to tell a different, more complicated tale. Daniel, the company now says, didn’t learn distilling from Dan Call, but from a man named Nearis Green — one of Call’s slaves.

This version of the story was never a secret, but it is one that the distillery has only recently begun to embrace, tentatively, in some of its tours, and in a social media and marketing campaign this summer.
Title: Re: Jack Daniel’s Embraces a Hidden Ingredient: Help From a Slave
Post by: Steingar on June 29, 2016, 06:07:42 AM
Distillation was developed into its modern form with the invention of the alembic by Islamic alchemist Jabir ibn Hayyan in around 800 C.E.  Thats why its called al-chohal.  Coffee was originally gowns and brewed in the mountains of Yemen. It was shipped all over the world out of the port of Mocha.
Title: Re: Jack Daniel’s Embraces a Hidden Ingredient: Help From a Slave
Post by: pilot_dude on June 29, 2016, 06:20:09 AM
I guess having lived here most all my life this isn't so hidden.  However, for those living elsewhere it may be interesting fodder.  Still not a fan of their whisky.  The best whiskey IMHO is just down the road, George Dickel.  Yes, the spelling is intentionally different.
Title: Re: Jack Daniel’s Embraces a Hidden Ingredient: Help From a Slave
Post by: pilot_dude on June 29, 2016, 06:20:34 AM
Distillation was developed into its modern form with the invention of the alembic by Islamic alchemist Jabir ibn Hayyan in around 800 C.E.  Thats why its called al-chohal.  Coffee was originally gowns and brewed in the mountains of Yemen. It was shipped all over the world out of the port of Mocha.
Thanks for the education, professor.  :)
Title: Re: Jack Daniel’s Embraces a Hidden Ingredient: Help From a Slave
Post by: Little Joe on June 29, 2016, 06:50:28 AM
I guess having lived here most all my life this isn't so hidden.  However, for those living elsewhere it may be interesting fodder.  Still not a fan of their whisky.  The best whiskey IMHO is just down the road, George Dickel.  Yes, the spelling is intentionally different.
I disagree.  IMHO, the world's best whiskey is made in a little country just to the north of England.

But if Muslims did develop the process to distill alcohol, and discovered the wonders of coffee, then I salute them for that.  But what have they contributed to civilization in the last 1,300 years?
 ;)
Title: Re: Jack Daniel’s Embraces a Hidden Ingredient: Help From a Slave
Post by: Mase on June 29, 2016, 06:55:45 AM
Distillation was developed into its modern form with the invention of the alembic by Islamic alchemist Jabir ibn Hayyan in around 800 C.E.  Thats why its called al-chohal.

So they can make it but can't drink it?
Title: Re: Jack Daniel’s Embraces a Hidden Ingredient: Help From a Slave
Post by: Lucifer on June 29, 2016, 07:01:29 AM
So they can make it but can't drink it?

Only if the go to Bahrain..... ;)
Title: Re: Jack Daniel’s Embraces a Hidden Ingredient: Help From a Slave
Post by: pilot_dude on June 29, 2016, 08:17:11 AM
I disagree.  IMHO, the world's best whiskey is made in a little country just to the north of England.

But if Muslims did develop the process to distill alcohol, and discovered the wonders of coffee, then I salute them for that.  But what have they contributed to civilization in the last 1,300 years?
 ;)
I agree that Scotch can be one fine whiskey. 

As for not being able to drink, Jack is made in a dry county (some exceptions allowed).  Go figure.
Title: Re: Jack Daniel’s Embraces a Hidden Ingredient: Help From a Slave
Post by: Jaybird180 on June 29, 2016, 09:01:42 AM
So they can make it but can't drink it?

HQ 2:219
They ask thee about intoxicants and games of chance. Say: In both of them is a great sin and (some) advantage for men, and their sin is greater than their advantage.
Title: Re: Jack Daniel’s Embraces a Hidden Ingredient: Help From a Slave
Post by: Steingar on June 29, 2016, 12:07:26 PM
I disagree.  IMHO, the world's best whiskey is made in a little country just to the north of England.

But if Muslims did develop the process to distill alcohol, and discovered the wonders of coffee, then I salute them for that.  But what have they contributed to civilization in the last 1,300 years?
 ;)

For starters they named most of the stars in the night sky.  They invented zero.  Ever wonder why they call the numbers we use Arabic?  They also invented al-gebra and got the idea for al-gorithms.  They also preserved most of the classical literature from antiquity that promoted the age of enlightenment in Europe.
Title: Re: Jack Daniel’s Embraces a Hidden Ingredient: Help From a Slave
Post by: Little Joe on June 29, 2016, 12:38:02 PM
For starters they named most of the stars in the night sky.  They invented zero.  Ever wonder why they call the numbers we use Arabic?  They also invented al-gebra and got the idea for al-gorithms.  They also preserved most of the classical literature from antiquity that promoted the age of enlightenment in Europe.
As I said, what have they done in the past 13-15 centuries?
Title: Re: Jack Daniel’s Embraces a Hidden Ingredient: Help From a Slave
Post by: Steingar on June 29, 2016, 01:24:01 PM
As I said, what have they done in the past 13-15 centuries?

From about AD 800-1100 Bagdad was the cultural center of the world.  It was there they named the stars, figured out math and just about everything else.  Then Abu Ali al-Hassan al-Tusi (1018–1092), better known as Nizam al-Mulk, the grand vizier of the Seljuk dynasty declared that math and indeed most independent inquiry was inferior to study of the Quran.  The collapse of independent thought in the Muslim world was complete and lasting to this day.  If you look at Nobel prizes, only one or two have been won by Muslims, despite the fact that they comprise a third of the world's population.  Many have been given to Jews, despite their minority status.

There is a cautionary tail for our times this. We deride scientists for evolution, climate change and genetic engineering.  How long will we be able to maintain technological superiority if scientists are reduced in the public mind to a bunch of useless academics?
Title: Re: Jack Daniel’s Embraces a Hidden Ingredient: Help From a Slave
Post by: You Only Live Twice on June 29, 2016, 02:10:52 PM
Distillation was developed into its modern form with the invention of the alembic by Islamic alchemist Jabir ibn Hayyan in around 800 C.E.  Thats why its called al-chohal.  Coffee was originally gowns and brewed in the mountains of Yemen. It was shipped all over the world out of the port of Mocha.

Nonsense, it was a Russian inwention.

(http://www.trekbits.net/trekbits/trekpics/amok/amok_04.jpg)
Title: Re: Jack Daniel’s Embraces a Hidden Ingredient: Help From a Slave
Post by: deeg on June 30, 2016, 09:20:34 PM
Coffee was originally gowns and brewed in the mountains of Yemen. It was shipped all over the world out of the port of Mocha.

Yemenese & Kona beans, with a just a touch of Sumatra Mandheling-Aceh: mix together and set the roast cycle on the Nesco for 23 minutes. cool in colander, then let it sit on the shelf in a canning jar with the lid on tight for about three days.  Fine grind, two tablespoons in the Ibrik.  mmmmmmm