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Spin Zone => Spin Zone => Topic started by: Lucifer on July 07, 2016, 07:10:39 AM

Title: Disney is Anti-Semitic!
Post by: Lucifer on July 07, 2016, 07:10:39 AM
OMG!!!!   Disney is anti-Semitic!!!!

How dare they!!!!   What's the hidden meaning in this???

(http://i1305.photobucket.com/albums/s549/lucifer68/frozen_zpsktfob5d4.jpg)
Title: Re: Disney is Anti-Semitic!
Post by: Bob Noel on July 07, 2016, 08:28:56 AM
um, am I missing something?  how is that anti-semitic?
Title: Re: Disney is Anti-Semitic!
Post by: JeffDG on July 07, 2016, 08:30:12 AM
OMG!!!!   Disney is anti-Semitic!!!!

How dare they!!!!   What's the hidden meaning in this???

(http://i1305.photobucket.com/albums/s549/lucifer68/frozen_zpsktfob5d4.jpg)
Cool, so Disney sends their staff to troll neo-Nazi websites to pick up their box art like Donnie does with memes?
Title: Re: Disney is Anti-Semitic!
Post by: Lucifer on July 07, 2016, 08:36:57 AM
um, am I missing something?  how is that anti-semitic?

 They are using a "star of david" in the advertisement.......obviously anti semitic!
Title: Re: Disney is Anti-Semitic!
Post by: JeffDG on July 07, 2016, 08:38:30 AM
They are using a "star of david" in the advertisement.......obviously anti semitic!
Wait, I thought it was a Sheriff's star?  Or does the story change from day to day, so Donnie can deflect media attention away from the corruption of Hillary?
Title: Re: Disney is Anti-Semitic!
Post by: Steingar on July 07, 2016, 10:15:17 AM
(http://www.breakingisraelnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/hillary-anti-semitic-ad.jpg)

I don't really think of the Disney ad as antisemitic despite its use of the Star of David.  I just don't see any inherent link between Jews and stickers.  Or snow.  Or ice.  Or snowmen.  It does kinda look like a kippah on the one guy's head, but not that much.

This Trump add however drips of it.  The Star of David on top of an image of money is an obvious reference to Jews and their monetary support of Clinton.  Harkens back to the old antisemitic diatribe that Jews control the world by controlling its capital.  Trump has used such images in the past, they speak to those he sees as his base.

The really sad thing is Trump could have deflated this easily.  He could have simply said he was sorry if he caused offense, and that he didn't mean any anti-semitism.  Heck, I would've bought that, though I am a gullible sort.  Instead, in typical Trump fashion, he doubled down.

The funniest thing is he's been handed the BEST election year scandal anyone could ask for.  And he's bungled it completely.  Talk about inept.
Title: Re: Disney is Anti-Semitic!
Post by: Lucifer on July 07, 2016, 10:34:46 AM
(http://www.breakingisraelnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/hillary-anti-semitic-ad.jpg)



This Trump add however drips of it.  The Star of David on top of an image of money is an obvious reference to Jews and their monetary support of Clinton.  Harkens back to the old antisemitic diatribe that Jews control the world by controlling its capital.  Trump has used such images in the past, they speak to those he sees as his base.



You don't believe that for one minute.
Title: Re: Disney is Anti-Semitic!
Post by: Steingar on July 07, 2016, 11:34:29 AM
You don't believe that for one minute.

So you think you have the ability of telepathy now?  You can tell how wealthy Trump is by reading his mind, and know what I believe and what I don't.  What a special snowflake you must be.
Title: Re: Disney is Anti-Semitic!
Post by: Lucifer on July 07, 2016, 11:40:03 AM
So you think you have the ability of telepathy now?  You can tell how wealthy Trump is by reading his mind, and know what I believe and what I don't.  What a special snowflake you must be.

Nice twist to try to change topic.

Again, you don't believe this:

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This Trump add however drips of it.  The Star of David on top of an image of money is an obvious reference to Jews and their monetary support of Clinton.  Harkens back to the old antisemitic diatribe that Jews control the world by controlling its capital.  Trump has used such images in the past, they speak to those he sees as his base.

 Not for one minute.
Title: Re: Disney is Anti-Semitic!
Post by: bflynn on July 07, 2016, 12:58:31 PM
This Trump add however drips of it.  The Star of David on top of an image of money is an obvious reference to Jews

I think that's a pretty far stretch.  Do you see the connection because you want to?  I don't associate the Jewish people with money, I associate them with God, piety and a cycle of turning their back on God and being punished for it / rejoicing in rediscovering Him. 

In the Trump ad, the money is obviously linked to Hillary and the star is a starburst which happens to have 6 sides because it's easier to write a message in a six sided star than a 5 sided one.
Title: Re: Disney is Anti-Semitic!
Post by: JeffDG on July 07, 2016, 01:02:24 PM
I think that's a pretty far stretch.  Do you see the connection because you want to?  I don't associate the Jewish people with money, I associate them with God, piety and a cycle of turning their back on God and being punished for it / rejoicing in rediscovering Him. 

In the Trump ad, the money is obviously linked to Hillary and the star is a starburst which happens to have 6 sides because it's easier to write a message in a six sided star than a 5 sided one.
Well, there's also the fact that the source of the graphic was a alt-right site that is dripping with terms like "kike", but nah, I'm sure it was a Sheriff's star, absolutely sure of it.
Title: Re: Disney is Anti-Semitic!
Post by: bflynn on July 07, 2016, 01:26:33 PM
I'm sure it was a Sheriff's star, absolutely sure of it.

I'm pretty sure it was meant to be a starburst, a graphical element to attract attention.  Before anyone brought it up, I thought it was just another poorly made ad.  I think one would have to be racist to being with to see racism in this.
Title: Re: Disney is Anti-Semitic!
Post by: JeffDG on July 07, 2016, 01:32:26 PM
I'm pretty sure it was meant to be a starburst, a graphical element to attract attention.  Before anyone brought it up, I thought it was just another poorly made ad.  I think one would have to be racist to being with to see racism in this.
Except for the source of the entire graphic being a rather anti-semetic corner of the alt-right movement.
Title: Re: Disney is Anti-Semitic!
Post by: Little Joe on July 07, 2016, 01:41:08 PM
Except for the source of the entire graphic being a rather anti-semetic corner of the alt-right movement.
Damn Jeff, you'll let your hatred of Trump take you anywhere, won't you?
Title: Re: Disney is Anti-Semitic!
Post by: JeffDG on July 07, 2016, 01:43:06 PM
Damn Jeff, you'll let your hatred of Trump take you anywhere, won't you?
You mean to facts?  Yeah, I guess that's pretty out there.

Trump won't do anything to offend his nutso faction.  He wouldn't even say the Klan was bad without equivocating.
Title: Re: Disney is Anti-Semitic!
Post by: bflynn on July 08, 2016, 06:14:17 AM
Except for the source of the entire graphic being a rather anti-semetic corner of the alt-right movement.

Ok, but I never knew where the image came from.  So all I see is a bunch of money connected to Clinton's scandals and a starburst with a message.  I think that's what most people see unless they're carrying around a chip and looking for racism.

Meanwhile the message of the image rings true with me - Hillary is perhaps the most corrupt person I have ever seen in politics.  Attempted distractions about racism say more about the people leveling the charges than the anonymous group that built the image.
Title: Re: Disney is Anti-Semitic!
Post by: JeffDG on July 08, 2016, 06:15:51 AM
Ok, but I never knew where the image came from.  So all I see is a bunch of money connected to Clinton's scandals and a starburst with a message.  I think that's what most people see unless they're carrying around a chip and looking for racism.

Meanwhile the message of the image rings true with me - Hillary is perhaps the most corrupt person I have ever seen in politics.  Attempted distractions about racism say more about the people leveling the charges than the anonymous group that built the image.
You're not the target audience for the anti-semetic imagery however.  Trump is courting that segment of the population.
Title: Re: Disney is Anti-Semitic!
Post by: Little Joe on July 08, 2016, 06:19:58 AM
You're not the target audience for the anti-semetic imagery however.  Trump is courting that segment of the population.
So now, I'm anti-semitic?
Title: Re: Disney is Anti-Semitic!
Post by: JeffDG on July 08, 2016, 06:43:48 AM
So now, I'm anti-semitic?
I have no clue how you made that leap.
Title: Re: Disney is Anti-Semitic!
Post by: Little Joe on July 08, 2016, 06:58:30 AM
I have no clue how you made that leap.
Taking leaps of logic seems to be a favorite pastime here.  I thought I join in the fun.
Title: Re: Disney is Anti-Semitic!
Post by: Steingar on July 08, 2016, 06:59:31 AM
So now, I'm anti-semitic?

Perhaps you're anti-anti semitic?  I'm not painting the majority of Trump supporters with this brush.  I won't even paint the Donald himself, even though much of his rhetoric does suggest rabid bigotry.  However, he had that image and placed there to appeal to an anti-semitic faction within his target audience, and he has used white supremacist images in the past.  He did this on purpose and for a reason.  Courting this lot is fairly despicable for a Presidential candidate.
Title: Re: Disney is Anti-Semitic!
Post by: Lucifer on July 08, 2016, 07:06:48 AM
Courting this lot is fairly despicable for a Presidential candidate.

Like Hillary supporting Robert Byrd, a known and admitted member of the KKK?
Title: Re: Disney is Anti-Semitic!
Post by: JeffDG on July 08, 2016, 07:11:41 AM
Taking leaps of logic seems to be a favorite pastime here.  I thought I join in the fun.
So, your reading comprehension didn't get the "You're not the target audience..." part of what I wrote?
Title: Re: Disney is Anti-Semitic!
Post by: JeffDG on July 08, 2016, 07:12:23 AM
Like Hillary supporting Robert Byrd, a known and admitted member of the KKK?
Well, when Trump was asked about the KKK he claimed he had no idea who/what they were.
Title: Re: Disney is Anti-Semitic!
Post by: bflynn on July 08, 2016, 02:48:43 PM
You're not the target audience for the anti-semetic imagery however.  Trump is courting that segment of the population.

I am an on-the-fence, middle moderate with a slight right lean in a battleground state.  I am exactly the target audience.

I think the only people who would call this image racist 1) are racist themselves or 2) dislike the message and are attempting to detour it with a racism charge, thus cheapening real racism.
Title: Re: Disney is Anti-Semitic!
Post by: Lucifer on July 08, 2016, 03:02:58 PM


I think the only people who would call this image racist 1) are racist themselves or 2) dislike the message and are attempting to detour it with a racism charge, thus cheapening real racism.

Well, that's certainly gonna leave a mark!  ;)