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Spin Zone => Spin Zone => Topic started by: Lucifer on July 19, 2016, 05:51:34 AM

Title: Chris Matthews Scolds Mother of Benghazi Victim
Post by: Lucifer on July 19, 2016, 05:51:34 AM
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"I don't care what that woman up there, the mother has felt," Matthews said. "Her emotions are her own but for the country in choosing a leader, it's wrong to have someone get up there and tell a lie about Hillary Clinton. It's not true."-Chris Matthews


http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2016/07/18/chris_matthews_scolds_mother_of_benghazi_victim_it_was_wrong_to_lie_about_hillary_clinton.html
Title: Re: Chris Matthews Scolds Mother of Benghazi Victim
Post by: Number7 on July 19, 2016, 05:54:07 AM

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2016/07/18/chris_matthews_scolds_mother_of_benghazi_victim_it_was_wrong_to_lie_about_hillary_clinton.html

Chrissy must have meant that Hilary Clinton lying about the You Tube video was not a lie. I guess progressives think lies are only what non-progressives say.
The thrill up his leg must be distracting to him.
Title: Re: Chris Matthews Scolds Mother of Benghazi Victim
Post by: WildEye on July 20, 2016, 02:11:57 PM

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2016/07/18/chris_matthews_scolds_mother_of_benghazi_victim_it_was_wrong_to_lie_about_hillary_clinton.html

I do think it was bad taste using a mothers grief like that... that poor woman was still in stage 2 or pulled back into stage 2
Title: Re: Chris Matthews Scolds Mother of Benghazi Victim
Post by: Number7 on July 20, 2016, 03:49:43 PM
I do think it was bad taste using a mothers grief like that... that poor woman was still in stage 2 or pulled back into stage 2

I see.
The fact that she stated FACTS as opposed to progressive talking points had nothing what-so-ever to do with Chrissy Mathews objections thought, I'm sure....
Title: Re: Chris Matthews Scolds Mother of Benghazi Victim
Post by: Steingar on July 21, 2016, 09:13:06 AM
I must say I really disagree with weaponizing grief.  To me, the grief of a mother over her deceased son belongs in private, a thing to be shared intimately with family, and not smeared all over a political convention.  it becomes cheap and demeaning, as all politics truly becomes.

I can see the attraction for politicians, being the creatures they are.  Anyone who says anything against a grieving mother is automatically a villain.
Title: Re: Chris Matthews Scolds Mother of Benghazi Victim
Post by: Bob Noel on July 21, 2016, 09:25:02 AM
I must say I really disagree with weaponizing grief.  To me, the grief of a mother over her deceased son belongs in private, a thing to be shared intimately with family, and not smeared all over a political convention.  it becomes cheap and demeaning, as all politics truly becomes.

I can see the attraction for politicians, being the creatures they are.  Anyone who says anything against a grieving mother is automatically a villain.

Then you are also appalled by the politicians that trot out the victims of violent crimes when they want to ride the emotional wave...
Title: Re: Chris Matthews Scolds Mother of Benghazi Victim
Post by: Steingar on July 21, 2016, 10:40:53 AM
Then you are also appalled by the politicians that trot out the victims of violent crimes when they want to ride the emotional wave...

Depends.  What I've seen are politicians pointing to members of the audience who's situations might have been changed with desired legislation.  Just like pointing out constituents who's lives have been beneficially impacted by legislation.

I cannot recall someone using their grief to impugn a political candidate.  Not saying it hasn't happened, just can't recall seeing it.
Title: Re: Chris Matthews Scolds Mother of Benghazi Victim
Post by: nddons on July 21, 2016, 11:22:10 AM
I must say I really disagree with weaponizing grief.  To me, the grief of a mother over her deceased son belongs in private, a thing to be shared intimately with family, and not smeared all over a political convention.  it becomes cheap and demeaning, as all politics truly becomes.

I can see the attraction for politicians, being the creatures they are.  Anyone who says anything against a grieving mother is automatically a villain.
How sympathetic of you. But perhaps, just perhaps, she wants people to know what an evil and vile liar Hillary is, and and how she doesn't deserve the highest seat in government. She has been on other shows, beating that drum. Of course, most media just ignore her, so here she had a captive audience.
Title: Re: Chris Matthews Scolds Mother of Benghazi Victim
Post by: nddons on July 21, 2016, 11:26:32 AM
Depends.  What I've seen are politicians pointing to members of the audience who's situations might have been changed with desired legislation.  Just like pointing out constituents who's lives have been beneficially impacted by legislation.

I cannot recall someone using their grief to impugn a political candidate.  Not saying it hasn't happened, just can't recall seeing it.
Mary Jo Kopechne was unavailable for comment at the 1980 Democratic National Convention.
Title: Re: Chris Matthews Scolds Mother of Benghazi Victim
Post by: Steingar on July 21, 2016, 11:27:30 AM
How sympathetic of you. But perhaps, just perhaps, she wants people to know what an evil and vile liar Hillary is, and and how she doesn't deserve the highest seat in government. She has been on other shows, beating that drum. Of course, most media just ignore her, so here she had a captive audience.

The problem is she is utterly unassailable whether or not she speaks the truth.  She could lie her head off and no one can say a damn thing without appearing vile (how dare you attack the grieving mother!).  I'm not saying she did, just that she could.  I just think it a fairly vulgar thing to do.
Title: Re: Chris Matthews Scolds Mother of Benghazi Victim
Post by: Lucifer on July 21, 2016, 01:30:45 PM
The problem is she is utterly unassailable whether or not she speaks the truth.  She could lie her head off and no one can say a damn thing without appearing vile (how dare you attack the grieving mother!).  I'm not saying she did, just that she could.  I just think it a fairly vulgar thing to do.

No, the real vulgarity was a Secretary of State refusing to assist Americans fighting for their lives and then lying to the American public about it for political expediency.
Title: Re: Chris Matthews Scolds Mother of Benghazi Victim
Post by: nddons on July 21, 2016, 01:44:34 PM
No, the real vulgarity was a Secretary of State refusing to assist Americans fighting for their lives and then lying to the American public about it for political expediency.
It's amazing that we aren't talking about Hillary's failure to answer that 3:00 AM phone, but instead are talking about about the mom.

Pathetic, really.
Title: Re: Chris Matthews Scolds Mother of Benghazi Victim
Post by: Steingar on July 21, 2016, 01:45:43 PM
Then again, if a grieving mother wishes to enter the political realm perhaps she should be treated as people are treated in the political realm.  If she doesn't want to be treated that way perhaps she should stay home.
Title: Re: Chris Matthews Scolds Mother of Benghazi Victim
Post by: Bob Noel on July 21, 2016, 03:25:43 PM
Then again, if a grieving mother wishes to enter the political realm perhaps she should be treated as people are treated in the political realm.  If she doesn't want to be treated that way perhaps she should stay home.

yeah, anyone entering the political realm is fair game for, well, unfair tactics!

Let's move this to the gutter!!!

Title: Re: Chris Matthews Scolds Mother of Benghazi Victim
Post by: LevelWing on July 21, 2016, 10:46:39 PM
Then again, if a grieving mother wishes to enter the political realm perhaps she should be treated as people are treated in the political realm.  If she doesn't want to be treated that way perhaps she should stay home.
She was up there speaking about what happened and how her government failed her son (and her and everyone) on that night. Her emotion speaks to that anger, hurt and feeling of betrayal. It's compounded by the fact that Hillary immediately said it was a video that caused the incident when we now know that not to be true. Yes, they are using a grieving mother to make a political point. She wouldn't be up there if those on the ground had received the support they needed.

Trump really needs to re-make that 3AM phone call ad using Benghazi as the background.
Title: Re: Chris Matthews Scolds Mother of Benghazi Victim
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on July 22, 2016, 04:41:38 AM
Michael Brown's mother is supposed to speak next week.  Wonder if she'll bring up "hands up, don't shoot"
Title: Re: Chris Matthews Scolds Mother of Benghazi Victim
Post by: nddons on July 22, 2016, 04:44:59 AM
Michael Brown's mother is supposed to speak next week.  Wonder if she'll bring up "hands up, don't shoot"
She did such a good job of raising a ghetto thug, I'm sure she will.
Title: Re: Chris Matthews Scolds Mother of Benghazi Victim
Post by: Number7 on July 22, 2016, 07:32:09 AM
Michael Brown's mother is supposed to speak next week.  Wonder if she'll bring up "hands up, don't shoot"

Black lives matter is based on lies. The corrupt doormat is bringing black lives matters to her coronation convention to further the lies of the black racist lunatics in an attempt to shore up votes from a demographic that would vote for Adolph Hitler as long as he was a liberal and pro abortion.
Nation of Islam is a pack of lies surrounding a cult of personality that happens to be a psychotic asshole. Look for the corrupt doormat to try and adopt them too.
I wouldn't complain if the entire city of Philadelphia Police Department refused to lift a finger to protect the corrupt doormat and her freak show of liars. Inviting those violent, terrorist fermenting, scumbags to her convention is a sickness not a statement.
Title: Re: Chris Matthews Scolds Mother of Benghazi Victim
Post by: Anthony on July 27, 2016, 06:06:53 AM
My uncle went to high school with Chris Mathews.  Mathews is from an old line, dyed in the wool DEMOCRAT, CORRUPT, Philly family.  He is also as crazy as a LOON. 
Title: Re: Chris Matthews Scolds Mother of Benghazi Victim
Post by: Lucifer on July 27, 2016, 06:13:47 AM
My uncle went to high school with Chris Mathews.  Mathews is from an old line, dyed in the wool DEMOCRAT, CORRUPT, Philly family.  He is also as crazy as a LOON.

 And your point is?......... ;D
Title: Re: Chris Matthews Scolds Mother of Benghazi Victim
Post by: You Only Live Twice on July 27, 2016, 07:59:09 AM
And your point is?......... ;D

Stating the obvious.