Post by: Jaybird180 on August 01, 2016, 07:19:33 AM
The bride was an extroverted comedienne and the groom, much more reserved. He will have his hands full. We've known the couple about 2 years. I spoke with the Pastor with whom the couple has been seeing for premarital counseling; he says they have a few more sessions to go - don't we all?
What prompted the discussion was speculation on their world-view. You see, this couple is a blended family. A bit of research has led to a trend in America of blended families where one spouse or more has a child(ren) from previous relationships. But that alone is not their only distinguishing feature.
Do you remember the show, The Jeffersons? This couple is much like Tom and Helen Willis. She's black, he's white, she has a teenage son from a prior relationship and they have a son produced from their relationship.
My research also says that this is becoming more commonplace in America. I was unable in the 15 minutes I spent internet searching to try to find qualitative demographic data about their views on socio-political issues...dead links, irrelevant results...that sort of thing.
So I turn to PS to speculate (am I a glutton for punishment???) or if you have some research, on the discussions in their home on the current social climate. "Tom" can't be blind to what's going on in the world because he's now legally accepted his parental role no longer as just "father-figure" over two young men whom the world sees as young Black Men. Knowing "Helen" she's not blind either, and we've had some frank discussions about police brutality and all that.
Not to mention, I have no fathomable idea how they plan to vote in this upcoming election. I suspect they both voted for Obama to be Commander In Chief over the Military in which they both serve(d), but that's just pure speculation.
So I leave it to you guys and gals. Tell me about the typical interracial family's view on social and political issues.
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on August 01, 2016, 09:42:25 AM
I have white friends who adopted a child from Nepal and a child from India. The Indian child is very dark. Both children feel like they stand out, but their family is supportive and loving and everyone is busy and happy and achieving.
Interracial couples are actually quite common where I live. Black/White, Hispanic/White, Asian/White. No one seems to have a problem with it that I can see. I'm in a red county in a blue state, and it's half Hispanic; probably over half by now. We tend to just get on with life.
I have read through the years, however, that studies show that mixed-race children, especially Black/White, feel the most unacceptance from and are least able to feel at home with the non-white group. You're not black and you're not white, so the deep identification with either doesn't happen. That seems to me the larger issue, but it, as well, wouldn't have a lot of power unless people divide off and make it so.
Post by: Jaybird180 on August 05, 2016, 07:02:02 AM
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Post by: Mase on August 05, 2016, 10:30:41 AM
My best friend going back to High School, a dentist, married a beautiful Puerto Rican. Both they and their two kids have a wonderful life. Bill, who was the Best Man at my wedding, has always voted for Democrats. I don't know about Aida.
This is relevant how?
Post by: bflynn on August 05, 2016, 04:18:33 PM
Ok. My wife and I are both caucasian. We have a happy life and other than having racism thrown in my face here or on the news that I increasingly do not watch, we never think about it.
We know a couple that lives down the street in a mixed marriage. He roots for Carolina, she pulls for Duke. Somehow they make it work.
Post by: asechrest on August 05, 2016, 07:24:51 PM
Post by: Anthony on August 07, 2016, 05:26:01 AM
I think it is hysterically funny that the guy constantly searching for things to make up and blame on 'racism' is pissed because we didn;t take the bait.
I am tired of the race discussion. I just don't care.
Post by: Dav8or on August 07, 2016, 09:27:45 AM
My brother has been married to two Philippina women. His second wife (1st Philippina wife) has two boys from a previous marriage that are black because their father was a black man. That marriage lasted 10 years. That wife and her boys are Democrats and likely to vote Hillary. My brother is a flip flopping swing voter. He's talking about Gary Johnson currently. My brother's 3rd wife (2nd Philippina) had no children and is now too old to have any. She just received her official citizenship about three months ago. I'm pretty sure she will vote Clinton.
Another good friend of my wife's was a black woman. She dated both black and white men. None were good relationships because she was a poor judge of character. She never had kids and she is now deceased from cancer. She was a solid Democrat and voted for Obama both times. Likely she would have voted for Hillary.
I didn't respond to this thread before because I didn't really understand what it was about other than some sort of racial thing, or what I could offer to the thread. I still don't get it.
Post by: pilot_dude on August 08, 2016, 06:27:45 AM
Post by: You Only Live Twice on August 08, 2016, 06:32:14 AM
Post by: Anthony on August 08, 2016, 07:01:41 AM
For the most part, only the race hustlers (overwhelming to the Left, go figure...) give two shits about any of this.
The continue the race narrative agenda purely for personal gain. Money, power, and influence.
Post by: Jaybird180 on August 11, 2016, 08:16:46 AM
My wife's best friend is white and married to a black man, now for over 15 years. They have two boys together and they are light skinned black. A wonderful family and doing quite well. They are solid Democrats and will be voting for Hillary.
My brother has been married to two Philippina women. His second wife (1st Philippina wife) has two boys from a previous marriage that are black because their father was a black man. That marriage lasted 10 years. That wife and her boys are Democrats and likely to vote Hillary. My brother is a flip flopping swing voter. He's talking about Gary Johnson currently. My brother's 3rd wife (2nd Philippina) had no children and is now too old to have any. She just received her official citizenship about three months ago. I'm pretty sure she will vote Clinton.
Another good friend of my wife's was a black woman. She dated both black and white men. None were good relationships because she was a poor judge of character. She never had kids and she is now deceased from cancer. She was a solid Democrat and voted for Obama both times. Likely she would have voted for Hillary.
I didn't respond to this thread before because I didn't really understand what it was about other than some sort of racial thing, or what I could offer to the thread. I still don't get it.
Thank you for you valuable contribution. The question I was exploring is how do interracial families deal with societal racial issues. Do they pick a side based upon their politics or do they openly discuss and make judgments situationally. I suspect the latter, but I've seen the former with my own 2 eyes. Most of what I've seen is that they pretend such don't exist, which we know is a fallacy. This particular couple, I believe tackles these things head-on.
Of particular note, I'd like to thank everyone who has mixed heritage background and affiliations for their contributions to the thread. It shows another dimension to your livelihoods.
My background is commonly called "African-American" (I don't care for the term but everyone knows what it means, so I'll just acquiesce to it). My wife also is AA. We have 3 children together and none from prior relationships. Both my maternal and paternal sides have mixed heritage, that I know about of Irish and Cherokee, within 3 generations of me.
My first experience in a multi-faceted background environ was at Parris Island. By the time I was in the Fleet Marine Force, I'd formed bonds that are still with me today, many I've lost touch with. One in particular a "light green" Marine with whom I shared a canteen I remember fondly. We even open declared our love for each other during a particularly strenuous training evolution (The L-word gets thrown about when your buddy rushes forward to relieve you).
Post by: bflynn on August 11, 2016, 08:20:16 AM
Post by: asechrest on August 11, 2016, 08:48:53 AM
Post by: asechrest on August 11, 2016, 10:08:41 AM
Post by: Number7 on August 11, 2016, 10:10:13 AM
There is so little to see there that most of us here are like asechrest, wondering what the rest of you are all caught up in.
Post by: Mase on August 11, 2016, 10:50:10 AM
Post by: Jaybird180 on August 11, 2016, 01:36:43 PM
PS - I am literally unable to remember a day that I consciously thought about being in an interracial relationship. As far as I care, I am in a normal relationship with a woman who has lovely golden brown skin.
What was the context where you met? Did you think about it in the earlier stages of the relationship?
I went to a Public HS in a predominant Black area. I think all of the white kids (marked minority) were military brats. I dated one of them, I also dated a Filipina in HS. My GF from another school was biracial and clearly looked biracial.
No one made mention of mixed race dating (at least to me) except when I dated the white girl. There still exists (in some cases) the stigma of black man w. white woman AFAIK in the social circles I belong to. Some, won't be crass about it but no-one pretends to not notice, but environment matter.
For example: I went on 1 date with a white girl in adulthood about a month before I met my wife. Except for the fact that it came up in discussion I don't think anyone would have known she was Jewish. We went out in public and I don't recall getting the stares that I did in HS about it, but that area has a higher concentration of mixed couples...and 20 years had passed. Ahd she knew I was Muslim.
Post by: bflynn on August 11, 2016, 01:49:27 PM
What was the context where you met? Did you think about it in the earlier stages of the relationship?
You know...not everyone is hung up on race. In fact, very few people are.
Post by: asechrest on August 11, 2016, 02:22:23 PM
What was the context where you met? Did you think about it in the earlier stages of the relationship?
We met at work. I don't recall whether I thought about it early on. But what is there to think about? Problems with race and racism seem to emanate from third parties. And since I don't really experience anything negative as a result of being in a relationship with a Latino, I don't give it much thought.
But like I said, I think it might be different if I was black.
Post by: Jaybird180 on August 11, 2016, 02:27:50 PM
You know...not everyone is hung up on race. In fact, very few people are.
Very few people IN YOUR UNIVERSE.
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on August 11, 2016, 05:14:24 PM
Very few people IN YOUR UNIVERSE.This begs a question. Do we exist in multiple worlds, or do we exist together in one world? For example, is there your world, my world, and the world we make together?
If your world is in your head, it is easy to calibrate everything in the world we share toward what you want to see. And some find it easier to remain captive than to break forth, grow, and reclaim their lives from the chains that really don't exist.
Sez Byron:
My very chains and I grew friends,
So much a long communion tends
To make us what we are: even I
Regain'd my freedom with a sigh.
Post by: You Only Live Twice on August 11, 2016, 08:25:24 PM
You know...not everyone is hung up on race. In fact, very few people are.
Exactly. For the most part, NO ONE GIVES A SHIT.
Post by: nddons on August 11, 2016, 09:17:51 PM
This begs a question. Do we exist in multiple worlds, or do we exist together in one world? For example, is there your world, my world, and the world we make together?
If your world is in your head, it is easy to calibrate everything in the world we share toward what you want to see. And some find it easier to remain captive than to break forth, grow, and reclaim their lives from the chains that really don't exist.
Sez Byron:
My very chains and I grew friends,
So much a long communion tends
To make us what we are: even I
Regain'd my freedom with a sigh.
We exist in separate worlds, and some want to keep it that way, and don't consider it racist at all.
Dalia Zada (PZ ’18) expressed concerns to the anti-white discrimination. “‘POC only?’ Maybe I’m missing something or misunderstanding your post, but how is that not a racist thing to say?”
This is directed to protect POC, not white people. Don’t see how this is racist at all…” responded AJ León (PZ ’18), a member of the Pitzer Latino Student Union.
“People of color are allowed to create safe POC only spaces. It is not reverse racism or discriminatory, it is self preservation [sic],” Sara Roschdi (PZ ’17), another Pitzer Latino Student Union member, stated. “Reverse racism isn’t a thing.”
“We don’t want to have to tiptoe around fragile white feelings in a space where we just want to relax and be comfortable,” commented Nina Lee, a Women’s Studies major. “I could live with white people, but I would be far more comfortable living with other poc.”
“White people always mad when they don’t feel included but at the end of the day y’all are damaging asf [sic] and if a POC feels they need to protect themselves from that toxic environment THEY CAN! Quick to try to jump on a POC but you won’t call your friends out when they’re being racist asf [sic],” noted Terriyonna Smith (PZ ’18), an Africana Studies major and Resident Assistant (RA) for the 2016-2017 year. “I’m not responding to NO comments and NOPE I don’t wanna have a dialogue.”
http://campusreform.org/?ID=7977
Obviously, that last student must be an English major. 😡
Post by: WildEye on August 12, 2016, 12:04:12 AM
And for those to lazy to look it up..
"Rich people have always stayed on top by dividing white people from colored people/ but white people got more in common with colored people then they do with rich people/ we just gotta eliminate them. White people, black people, brown people, yellow people, get rid of 'em all/ All we need is a voluntary, free spirited, open-ended program of procreative racial deconstruction/ Everybody just gotta keep f**kin' everybody til they're all the same color "
Post by: bflynn on August 12, 2016, 12:42:35 AM
Very few people IN YOUR UNIVERSE.
Yeah, OK. So why are you after me to fix whats wrong IN YOUR UNIVERSE? It is your world, your reality and your responsibility.
Break your chains. It is you holding yourself back. That is true of everyone, including me. We all just have different chains and mine have nothing to do with race.
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on August 12, 2016, 05:54:28 PM
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"Oh, and, of course, since Hollywood is out of ideas, Roots is being re-filmed. This time, I read, with NO kind or positive white people in it. That should help 'Unity.'"
http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2016/08/thoughts-from-the-ammo-line-127.php
Post by: Mase on August 12, 2016, 07:13:10 PM
Post by: Dav8or on August 12, 2016, 07:23:14 PM
http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2016/08/thoughts-from-the-ammo-line-127.php
From the article-
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Now fast forward nearly 20 years to Oakland, California. On Martin Luther King Day 1994, a science teacher took a group of about 70 students, mostly black, to see Schindler’s List. In an early scene, when a Jewish woman is murdered by the Nazis, a group of about 10 youths laughed it up. The projectionist actually turned off the film and made them leave. And, oh my, what a tsunami of crap rolled forth, not apologies but apologists.
I was actually at this showing!! I still tell this story to people. They actually stopped the film three times because of bad behavior and after the third stoppage, they refused to finish the film and tossed everybody out. We all got rain checks to see the movie again and some other sort of compensation. I don't remember what now. We did go back and finish the film on a different day.
The author of this OP ed is a little off. While there were some apologists and people trying to defend the kids behavior, there were lots more people on the left and on the right that were very vocal in the media. Steven Spielberg was personally horrified and went on a campaign to educate kids about the holocaust including the kids that saw it. It turns out that many of the kids in attendance didn't understand it was a telling of a real history and thought it was just made up. Most of them had no knowledge of WWII, the Nazis or even Jews. To them it was all fiction.
That does not excuse their reactions though. There is a serious failure of education in poor neighborhoods and mostly due to bad parenting. IIRC, a few of the kids that were kicked out became interested and actually did learn about the holocaust and were horrified. The problem was, the holocaust was committed by white people and it just further reinforced the idea that white people do horrible things.
Over all, the author of the attached OP ed is correct IMO and I agree with it. I just wanted to comment on this bit.
Post by: DJTorrente on August 12, 2016, 07:53:05 PM
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Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on August 18, 2016, 08:34:16 AM
Depolarizing, if you let it be so.
Post by: Number7 on August 22, 2016, 05:16:38 PM
Post by: Jaybird180 on August 23, 2016, 08:01:08 AM
Why does it always seem like blacks and a limited number of other minorities, but mostly blacks, are the only ones WANTING to maintain a racially divided America? The moment the majority of us untied the chains of racism from our lives black agitators, race whores like Jackson and Sharpton, race pimps like Obama and politically motivated trash like the majority of the Democratic national Committee and their fifth column in the media go nuts trying to stir things up and further redivide us.
The lines were drawn in the sands a long time ago for the preservation of control of power and resources. The elites realized that they could use color and colorism to get people to fight one another for what is perceived to be a small slice of the pie while they walk off with the oven and apple orchard wholesale.
This is further complicated by the psychological damage done to all so-called middle income and poor peoples who have bought into the model of color hierarchy, where each has a different manifestation of the disease. It's complicated surgery and it takes a master surgeon to perform the work. Interns need not apply.
Post by: Number7 on August 23, 2016, 11:12:14 AM
Many but not nearly a majority of blacks have become lulled into believing that they can rationalize any behavior on their part away by pretending it has something to do with race and racism.
That is certainly an excuse furthered by progressive and liberal politicians and academics as they try to out do each other in stupidity, resulting in black only retreats and black only safe spaces, and black only rallies and now black only phrases.
It is pathetic, cowardly and disgusting.
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Post by: You Only Live Twice on August 23, 2016, 12:46:24 PM
Post by: Little Joe on August 23, 2016, 03:48:49 PM
Lyndon Johnson's plan to make the "niggers" so dependent on government that they will vote Democrat for 200 years worked.
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Post by: Jaybird180 on August 24, 2016, 10:39:29 AM
..., resulting in black only retreats and black only safe spaces, and black only rallies and now black only phrases.You think we sit around all day and talk about you???
It is pathetic, cowardly and disgusting.
Post by: bflynn on August 24, 2016, 12:31:43 PM
You think we sit around all day and talk about you???
Actually, yes. There are people in college safe spaces sitting around talking about white people (and race) all day. Just like how there are people in Klan meetings sitting around talking about black people (and race) all day.
Post by: Little Joe on August 24, 2016, 12:42:21 PM
Actually, yes. There are people in college safe spaces sitting around talking about white people (and race) all day. Just like how there are people in Klan meetings sitting around talking about black people (and race) all day.No we don't!
oops.
I mean, how do you know that?
;)
Post by: Jaybird180 on August 24, 2016, 12:51:29 PM
No we don't!
oops.
I mean, how do you know that?
;)
I KNEW it!!!
Post by: nddons on August 24, 2016, 01:20:59 PM
