PILOT SPIN
Spin Zone => Spin Zone => Topic started by: JeffDG on August 08, 2016, 05:48:47 AM
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Here's the thing.
If the 2016 election is a referendum on Hillary/Obama 3rd Term, Hillary loses, in a landslide.
If the 2016 election is a referendum on Trump and his temperament to be President, he loses in a landslide.
The problem lies in that Trump is incapable of imagining anything NOT being about himself. So, he is actively working to make the election a referendum on himself. Since Hillary is doing the same, it is highly likely that the election will be a referendum on Trump.
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What if Hill strokes out before the election; who becomes the nominee?
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What if Hill strokes out before the election; who becomes the nominee?
Could we get so lucky?
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Could we get so lucky?
Does that mean the DNC "forfeits" and trump automatically wins? I don;t recall this ever happening in US history, wonder if there's some provision. Probably what would happen is she gets the sympathy vote and is elected by a landslide and we have President Kaine.
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Does that mean the DNC "forfeits" and trump automatically wins? I don;t recall this ever happening in US history, wonder if there's some provision. Probably what would happen is she gets the sympathy vote and is elected by a landslide and we have President Kaine.
First: The DNC probably has contingent rules for replacing a candidate for President or Vice President who dies or becomes incapacitated. I know the RNC does (there was talk last week about what to do when Donnie realizes he can't win and pulls out - the 100ish members of the RNC, with each state delegation having the same number of votes as at the convention, would select a new candidate, but I don't know the DNC rules)
Second: Remember that the Presidential election isn't until December. The 538 Electors can, and have in the past, voted independent of the instructions of the electorate. The DNC could advise Dem electors to vote for Joe Biden for example for President if something were to happen to Hillary before the Electoral College votes.
After the Electoral College votes, it's works like you said per Amendment XX:
Section 3.
If, at the time fixed for the beginning of the term of the President, the President elect shall have died, the Vice President elect shall become President.
That is, of course, if the Electoral College selects someone by majority. If there is a contingent election in the House (ie a tie in the EC, or a third party candidate gains some states denying a majority to either), it's a bit more complicated.
Section 4.
The Congress may by law provide for the case of the death of any of the persons from whom the House of Representatives may choose a President whenever the right of choice shall have devolved upon them, and for the case of the death of any of the persons from whom the Senate may choose a Vice President whenever the right of choice shall have devolved upon them.
I'm not aware of Congress having provided for this case at present, so likely it would be decided during a lame-duck session of Congress.
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Wasn't there also a moment after she made her big speech at the convention that she appeared to flip out?
This shows both. Don't like the folks that did the video, but it does show it.
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The difference between liberals and conservatives is demonstrated right here.
Liberals will fall into line, suck up anything they're told to suck up, repeat anything they're told to repeat and believe whatever they are told is good for them, once the party choice is decided.
True Blue Conservatives hate the disaster coming if the second worst election outcome is what happens and will not hesitate to speak out loud and long.
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The difference between liberals and conservatives is demonstrated right here.
Liberals will fall into line, suck up anything they're told to suck up, repeat anything they're told to repeat and believe whatever they are told is good for them, once the party choice is decided.
True Blue Conservatives hate the disaster coming if the second worst election outcome is what happens and will not hesitate to speak out loud and long.
I had this discussion with an arch-liberal friend of mine.
I said that the difference between the two parties, the difference between the two political philosophies, and the difference between he and I, is that I, many conservatives, and some Republicans are having a true crisis of conscience in this election, because of the character of our candidate.
He, liberals, and Democrats are not similarly burdened by such a crisis of conscience, and in fact have no moral outrage whatsoever with respect to the character of THEIR candidate.
Therein lies the difference, and one major reason why we are so divided as a country.
It's really quite depressing.
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I had this discussion with an arch-liberal friend of mine.
I said that the difference between the two parties, the difference between the two political philosophies, and the difference between he and I, is that I, many conservatives, and some Republicans are having a true crisis of conscience in this election, because of the character of our candidate.
He, liberals, and Democrats are not similarly burdened by such a crisis of conscience, and in fact have no moral outrage whatsoever with respect to the character of THEIR candidate.
Therein lies the difference, and one major reason why we are so divided as a country.
It's really quite depressing.
And what a shock, the Trumpalumpas, followers of a New York liberal Democrat, insist that all conservatives act like liberals and simply fall into line.
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The problem lies in ...
The problem lies in that there is nobody of value to vote for. The choice is between a crook or a clown, which one would be less damaging to the country and to the office?