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Spin Zone => Spin Zone => Topic started by: Lucifer on September 16, 2016, 12:47:31 PM

Title: More State Dept Shenanigans
Post by: Lucifer on September 16, 2016, 12:47:31 PM

And more emails being deleted.

http://freebeacon.com/national-security/congress-investigating-obama-admin-funded-campaign-unseat-israeli-pm/
Title: Re: More State Dept Shenanigans
Post by: Steingar on September 16, 2016, 01:24:47 PM
Once again, all I see re conservative blogs.  Smells.  That said, it might be early.  Its Friday evening, so news outlets might not pick this up.  But its not like a Congressional committee to wait until Friday night to announce an investigation.  They usually like the press and don't like to bury these things.
Title: Re: More State Dept Shenanigans
Post by: Anthony on September 16, 2016, 01:32:31 PM
Once again, all I see re conservative blogs.  Smells.  That said, it might be early.  Its Friday evening, so news outlets might not pick this up.  But its not like a Congressional committee to wait until Friday night to announce an investigation.  They usually like the press and don't like to bury these things.

The mainstream media is far left, liberal, progressive.  They bury things all the time.  This is NBC. MSNBC, CBS, ABC, PBS, CNN, NYT, Washpo, Reuters, AP, etc.  They do it ALL THE TIME. 
Title: Re: More State Dept Shenanigans
Post by: Steingar on September 16, 2016, 01:40:01 PM
The mainstream media is far left, liberal, progressive.  They bury things all the time.  This is NBC. MSNBC, CBS, ABC, PBS, CNN, NYT, Washpo, Reuters, AP, etc.  They do it ALL THE TIME.

Yeah, but there are conservative outlets.  That's why the first place I go is Faux News.  They have a conservative bent, but are still journalistic outlet.  If I see it on blogs but not there I start to wonder about veracity.  Folks here like to drudge up right wing blogs that report whatever they can.  They aren't written by journalists, and have no reputation to speak of.  The fact that this keeps happening again and again suggests there are lots of suggestible people.

The timing is what really smells.  Congressional committees don't wait for Friday night to announce their partisan witch hunts.  They like the publicity.
Title: Re: More State Dept Shenanigans
Post by: Lucifer on September 16, 2016, 02:23:22 PM
Yeah, but there are conservative outlets.  That's why the first place I go is Faux News.  They have a conservative bent, but are still journalistic outlet.  If I see it on blogs but not there I start to wonder about veracity.  Folks here like to drudge up right wing blogs that report whatever they can.  They aren't written by journalists, and have no reputation to speak of.  The fact that this keeps happening again and again suggests there are lots of suggestible people.

The timing is what really smells.  Congressional committees don't wait for Friday night to announce their partisan witch hunts.  They like the publicity.

So name all of these "conservative" MSM outlets that meet your high standards and you feel report accurate news.
Title: Re: More State Dept Shenanigans
Post by: bflynn on September 16, 2016, 06:01:38 PM
Once again, all I see re conservative blogs.  Smells.  That said, it might be early.  Its Friday evening, so news outlets might not pick this up.  But its not like a Congressional committee to wait until Friday night to announce an investigation.  They usually like the press and don't like to bury these things.

Google (http://lmgtfy.com/?q=congress+investigation+obama+israel+pm), page 1.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/jul/12/obama-admin-sent-taxpayer-money-oust-netanyahu/

You ought to look harder.  Or maybe just even look.  Because that right wing conservative blog called the Washington Times always gets it wrong.
Title: Re: More State Dept Shenanigans
Post by: Steingar on September 17, 2016, 01:15:53 PM
This finally hit Faux News, so I start to believe it.  However, I quote from Faux News:

Shortly after the U.S. grants ended[/b], OneVoice merged with an Israeli group Victory 15, which launched a political campaign in Israel with a goal to elect "anyone but Bibi," a nickname for Netanyahu.

So while the State Department funded them they were an Israeli NGO trying to build and Israeli/Palestinian peace, a worthy goal if ever there was one.  After the funding period ended they went political.  I fail to see how the government did anything at all wrong.  And this I got straight off Faux News, as conservative an outlet as I know, but one I trust to get out a straight story.  They slant the heck out of things, but they usually tell at least a little bit of the truth.

Now I believe the committee announced on a Friday night.  Run by Portman.  Say no more.
Title: Re: More State Dept Shenanigans
Post by: bflynn on September 17, 2016, 01:35:38 PM
Washington Times only out scooped them by 2 months then.