PILOT SPIN

Spin Zone => Spin Zone => Topic started by: Lucifer on September 23, 2016, 02:20:50 PM

Title: The Clinton Lie Ratchet
Post by: Lucifer on September 23, 2016, 02:20:50 PM
Title: Re: The Clinton Lie Ratchet
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on September 24, 2016, 09:10:18 AM
She is asking a moderator to come down on Trump's lies. Eighteen pages of them, no less.

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/297498-clinton-camp-urges-lester-holt-to-push-back-on-false
Title: Re: The Clinton Lie Ratchet
Post by: Lucifer on September 24, 2016, 09:32:07 AM
She is asking a moderator to come down on Trump's lies. Eighteen pages of them, no less.

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/297498-clinton-camp-urges-lester-holt-to-push-back-on-false

She hasn't anything to stand on, no policy, no ideas.  All she has is to demonize Trump.

BTW, the majority of the debate commission are Hillary contributors.
Title: Re: The Clinton Lie Ratchet
Post by: Number7 on September 24, 2016, 03:57:41 PM
What fascinates me is how the media play along all the time. They never allow the story to be about what it is, only the part of the story they can twist to advance their agenda.
If Hilary Clinton wants to spend fifty million dollars as she did in September so far on negative attack ads, that is just fine. When those attacks fail to move the needle in her direction it is time to consider how turned off the electorate is to her lies and corruption.
Title: Re: The Clinton Lie Ratchet
Post by: Steingar on September 25, 2016, 06:51:12 AM
According to politifact, about a quarter of what Hillary Clinton has said is untrue.  Roughly 3/4 of what the Donald has said is untrue.
Title: Re: The Clinton Lie Ratchet
Post by: Lucifer on September 25, 2016, 06:59:51 AM
According to politifact, about a quarter of what Hillary Clinton has said is untrue.  Roughly 3/4 of what the Donald has said is untrue.

And we all know Politifact is unbiased.............. ::)
Title: Re: The Clinton Lie Ratchet
Post by: Lucifer on September 25, 2016, 07:01:34 AM
According to politifact, about a quarter of what Hillary Clinton has said is untrue.  Roughly 3/4 of what the Donald has said is untrue.

So you are implying the video here is all untrue?  What parts is Whittle lying about?
Title: Re: The Clinton Lie Ratchet
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on September 26, 2016, 10:16:22 AM
According to politifact, about a quarter of what Hillary Clinton has said is untrue.  Roughly 3/4 of what the Donald has said is untrue.
There's another side.  I've flung this out there before, but the bitter PolitFact clingers like to ignore it!  ;)

http://www.politifactbias.com/
Title: Re: The Clinton Lie Ratchet
Post by: Steingar on September 26, 2016, 10:22:42 AM
According to you idiots anything that says that the Donald is not a shining knight in white armor is biased.  The only truth to which any of you will listen is that Hillary Clinton is fatally flawed.  You are completely and utterly tone deaf to anything else whatsoever.  Go ahead and insult me and call me whatever you want.  Jack says it best:

Title: Re: The Clinton Lie Ratchet
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on September 26, 2016, 10:30:29 AM
Oh, come on.  You know we don't like Donald that much.  A comment on another site said that Trump, an imperfect vessel, is preferable to Hillary, an overflowing chamberpot.



Title: Re: The Clinton Lie Ratchet
Post by: Little Joe on September 26, 2016, 10:33:32 AM
According to you idiots anything that says that the Donald is not a shining knight in white armor is biased.  The only truth to which any of you will listen is that Hillary Clinton is fatally flawed.  You are completely and utterly tone deaf to anything else whatsoever.  Go ahead and insult me and call me whatever you want.  Jack says it best:

How can you possibly say that?
Yes, there are some people to whom Trump is a shining knight.  But that is not the typical Trump supporter.  The typical Trump supporter merely feels that he won't destroy our country as fast as Hillary will, and may buy us the time to come up with some better answers.

But you are completely and utterly tone deaf t the truth.
Title: Re: The Clinton Lie Ratchet
Post by: Anthony on September 26, 2016, 10:35:39 AM
The Donald may be flawed, but he is a lot better than Hillary, Bernie, or the Green Party other Commie, what's her name.  Oh yeah, then there is Fauxchohotas. 

Compare Chelsea Clinton to Donald's kids, Eric, Don Jr, and Ivanka.  They are accomplished business people, and speakers.  Chelsea?  What has she done except get bribed by NBC for favors from her mom and dad. 
Title: Re: The Clinton Lie Ratchet
Post by: Lucifer on September 26, 2016, 10:36:39 AM
According to you idiots anything that says that the Donald is not a shining knight in white armor is biased.  The only truth to which any of you will listen is that Hillary Clinton is fatally flawed.  You are completely and utterly tone deaf to anything else whatsoever.  Go ahead and insult me and call me whatever you want.  Jack says it best:


 Here's an appropriate "jack" response for you:

(http://i1077.photobucket.com/albums/w464/flybywire1959/B27fiaPz3VjAGWI_zpskobbf8i1.gif)
Title: Re: The Clinton Lie Ratchet
Post by: Steingar on September 26, 2016, 10:39:06 AM
Compare Chelsea Clinton to Donald's kids, Eric, Don Jr, and Ivanka.  They are accomplished business people, and speakers. 

So me where they've made more than they inherited from the Orange one.
Title: Re: The Clinton Lie Ratchet
Post by: DJTorrente on September 26, 2016, 12:01:39 PM
Jack says it best:


That is so rich coming from someone who seemingly can't wait to vote for the candidate who hasn't told the public a fully truthful statement in the over 30 years of sponging off the public teat (when she wasn't making millions selling that public's interest off to the highest foreign sovereign donor to her "Foundation").  A Rasmussen poll of likely voters found (http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections/election_2016/how_do_voters_weigh_clinton_s_honesty_vs_trump_s) that twice as many Americans think Trump is more truthful than the average politician than think the same about Illary. 

If Hillary supporters like yourself has the slightest bit of self-awareness, it might be possible to have a rational, if not exactly fruitful, conversation.  But when one reads the text of the latest HuffPost/DailyKos meme it draws a clear mental picture of Illary, only to see the picture and find out its meant to disparage Trump.  And her sycophants call it tripe ('She just said she's going to raise taxes on the middle class, CLAP FOR HER!!! (https://www.facebook.com/foxandfriends/videos/1126116804142581/?hc_ref=SEARCH)').
Title: Re: The Clinton Lie Ratchet
Post by: Anthony on September 26, 2016, 12:22:15 PM
So me where they've made more than they inherited from the Orange one.

I don't know specifics, but I don't think they were really given a free ride, but had to work for what they have including doing hands on manual labor in construction. 

Chelsea Clinton?  She married a crooked Goldman Sachs investment banker who is the son of a criminal investment banker who spent time in the Federal penitentiary for FRAUD.  Ed Mezvinzky.  His Mom is communist, and one term Congressman from PA, Marjorie Margolies Mezvinsky.  Well she's divorced from her criminal husband so I guess she's back to just Margolies. 
Title: Re: The Clinton Lie Ratchet
Post by: Number7 on September 26, 2016, 01:49:14 PM
According to politifact, about a quarter of what Hillary Clinton has said is untrue.  Roughly 3/4 of what the Donald has said is untrue.

You are playing a game, again, to protect your progressive commissar.
You can take any set of statements you wish and 'grade' using any ruler you wish, then publish a 'report' claiming that 3/4's of one set of statements is true and 3/4's of any other set of statements is untrue, so long as you control the grading system. That has been the mother's milk of corrupt liberals for decades.
Title: Re: The Clinton Lie Ratchet
Post by: Number7 on September 26, 2016, 01:52:33 PM
So me where they've made more than they inherited from the Orange one.
And then the perfessor tells the truth.
IT WAS ALWAYS ABOUT JEALOUSY.
Congratulations. Like most progressives you hate anyone successful because you think it should be you.
Title: Re: The Clinton Lie Ratchet
Post by: nddons on September 26, 2016, 07:02:48 PM
So me where they've made more than they inherited from the Orange one.
Since the Orange One is not dead, I would say that they have inherited precisely zero from him.
Title: Re: The Clinton Lie Ratchet
Post by: Steingar on September 27, 2016, 06:07:58 AM
And then the perfessor tells the truth.
IT WAS ALWAYS ABOUT JEALOUSY.
Congratulations. Like most progressives you hate anyone successful because you think it should be you.

Only an idiot calls someone who is given $10,000 and winds up with $10,000 a success,  My question si simple, did Trumps kids do more with what they started with than had they just left it in the bank?  Pretty basic question, actually.

Four major newspapers have come out calling Trump a Liar.  I've never in my life seen such a thing.  He's almost as delusional as you.  No wonder you like him so much.
Title: Re: The Clinton Lie Ratchet
Post by: Number7 on September 27, 2016, 06:37:25 AM
Only an idiot calls someone who is given $10,000 and winds up with $10,000 a success,  My question si simple, did Trumps kids do more with what they started with than had they just left it in the bank?  Pretty basic question, actually.

Four major newspapers have come out calling Trump a Liar.  I've never in my life seen such a thing.  He's almost as delusional as you.  No wonder you like him so much.

I know that free thought is hard for you. The very idea of freedom is the debasement of everything progressive and you are nothing if not a total progressive. Citing four newspapers that have never given a republican a fair break in forty years as your source is as delusional as you pretending that a warm day in February is proof of mmgw.
Title: Re: The Clinton Lie Ratchet
Post by: Little Joe on September 27, 2016, 06:51:37 AM
Only an idiot calls someone who is given $10,000 and winds up with $10,000 a success,  My question si simple, did Trumps kids do more with what they started with than had they just left it in the bank?  Pretty basic question, actually.

Four major newspapers have come out calling Trump a Liar.  I've never in my life seen such a thing.  He's almost as delusional as you.  No wonder you like him so much.
Did those same organizations also call Hillary a liar?
If not, do you consider them non-biased?
Title: Re: The Clinton Lie Ratchet
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on September 27, 2016, 07:29:20 AM
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2016/live-updates/general-election/real-time-fact-checking-and-analysis-of-the-first-presidential-debate/fact-check-clinton-dod-call-tpp-the-gold-standard/

Hmmmm.....seems Hillary straight out lied about TPP and what she said. 



Here it is in her own words Michael.  Tell us that she didn't lie about it.  I'm waiting.
Title: Re: The Clinton Lie Ratchet
Post by: Lucifer on September 27, 2016, 07:31:45 AM
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2016/live-updates/general-election/real-time-fact-checking-and-analysis-of-the-first-presidential-debate/fact-check-clinton-dod-call-tpp-the-gold-standard/

Hmmmm.....seems Hillary straight out lied about TPP and what she said. 



Here it is in her own words Michael.  Tell us that she didn't lie about it.  I'm waiting.

 His comeback will be Trump lies more, he's got nothing else.
Title: Re: The Clinton Lie Ratchet
Post by: Steingar on September 27, 2016, 08:45:35 AM
Personally, I think it a shame that she flipped on it.  I suspect an Asian Free Trade agreement will open a lot of markets to American goods and services.  Yeah, she liked it until Bernie shoved her to the left. At least she doesn't breathe lies, like the Donald.
Title: Re: The Clinton Lie Ratchet
Post by: Anthony on September 27, 2016, 08:52:01 AM
Chelsea's mother in law.  Marjorie Margolies Mezvinsky, and Felon father in law Ed Mezvinsky.  Both heavy Clinton supporters, and CRIMINALS. 
Title: Re: The Clinton Lie Ratchet
Post by: Bob Noel on September 27, 2016, 08:58:18 AM
Personally, I think it a shame that she flipped on it.  I suspect an Asian Free Trade agreement will open a lot of markets to American goods and services.  Yeah, she liked it until Bernie shoved her to the left. At least she doesn't breathe lies, like the Donald.

Lucifer nailed it.

Title: Re: The Clinton Lie Ratchet
Post by: Steingar on September 27, 2016, 09:09:49 AM
Title: Re: The Clinton Lie Ratchet
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on September 27, 2016, 09:35:23 AM
Personally, I think it a shame that she flipped on it.  I suspect an Asian Free Trade agreement will open a lot of markets to American goods and services.  Yeah, she liked it until Bernie shoved her to the left. At least she doesn't breathe lies, like the Donald.



Let us not forget "I was named after Sir Edmund Hillary"

How about "We landed under sniper fire and had to run from the helicopter"

I'll let others take from here, I've got code to write.
Title: Re: The Clinton Lie Ratchet
Post by: Lucifer on September 27, 2016, 09:37:09 AM


Let us not forget "I was named after Sir Edmund Hillary"

How about "We landed under sniper fire and had to run from the helicopter"

I'll let others take from here, I've got code to write.

 To quote all of the lies of HRC would take monumental bandwidth.  It would be easier to quote the few times she ever told the truth.
Title: Re: The Clinton Lie Ratchet
Post by: nddons on September 27, 2016, 07:55:38 PM
Personally, I think it a shame that she flipped on it.  I suspect an Asian Free Trade agreement will open a lot of markets to American goods and services.  Yeah, she liked it until Bernie shoved her to the left. At least she doesn't breathe lies, like the Donald.
You're delusional.
Title: Re: The Clinton Lie Ratchet
Post by: bflynn on September 28, 2016, 12:18:37 AM
According to you idiots ...

For the record and so that you can improve your ability to deliver a message next time, this is where I quit reading. Whatever brillance you wrote was wasted effort.