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Spin Zone => Spin Zone => Topic started by: President in Exile YOLT on September 26, 2016, 08:34:28 PM

Title: Tax the rich and corporations..fair share....blah, blah
Post by: President in Exile YOLT on September 26, 2016, 08:34:28 PM
Hillary, if nothing else, was on point tonight.

Robin Hood politics, as usual.
Title: Re: Tax the rich and corporations..fair share....blah, blah
Post by: asechrest on September 26, 2016, 08:57:26 PM

Trump would like to look at banning guns from those on the no fly list. Just watched him say it. Hmm. I think Anthony should vote Gary Johnson this election.  ;)
Title: Re: Tax the rich and corporations..fair share....blah, blah
Post by: Anthony on September 27, 2016, 01:57:32 AM
Trump would like to look at banning guns from those on the no fly list. Just watched him say it. Hmm. I think Anthony should vote Gary Johnson this election.  ;)

I am more of a Libertarian, than a Republican at this point.  I see very little real positives in the Republican Party anymore, although they are still better than the Communist Democrats.  However, Gary Johnson is just a loon, and has some very liberal, progressive leanings.  I don't like him, but that doesn't mean I wouldn't vote for a different Libertarian candidate. 

Ted Cruz is disappointing, and I wish Scott Walker would have won the Primary. 

Title: Re: Tax the rich and corporations..fair share....blah, blah
Post by: Mr Pou on September 27, 2016, 04:18:31 AM
Sadly Trump is still my most logical choice, as he's not Hillary.
Title: Re: Tax the rich and corporations..fair share....blah, blah
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on September 27, 2016, 04:57:48 AM
I was disappointed that Trump found it necessary to interrupt Clinton so much.  I would tell hm to listen and then respond when it is his turn to do so.  Lester Holt badgered Trump for an answer about the birther issue yet when he asked Clinton to explain her tax policy and she totally ducked it he said nothing.  Another one was the TPP "Gold Standard" deal.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/28/politics/donald-trump-hillary-clinton-tpp/
Title: Re: Tax the rich and corporations..fair share....blah, blah
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on September 27, 2016, 04:59:57 AM
I noticed on several questions that she launched right into her answer almost like she knew what the question was going to be ahead of time.  One in particular was the question about "implicit racism"
Title: Re: Tax the rich and corporations..fair share....blah, blah
Post by: Lucifer on September 27, 2016, 05:22:49 AM
I noticed on several questions that she launched right into her answer almost like she knew what the question was going to be ahead of time.  One in particular was the question about "implicit racism"

Let's see, the debate commission is made up of Hillary supporters, Lester Holt is a liberal reporter working for a liberal news outlet.............

 So, ya think Hillary was handed the questions before hand?  ::)
Title: Re: Tax the rich and corporations..fair share....blah, blah
Post by: PaulS on September 27, 2016, 05:24:21 AM
I think she had the questions ahead of time,  you can prepare, but that was ridiculous.   The news kept saying how irritated Trump got from Hillary, but I swear Hillary was about to cry as Trump was ripping her, I'm glad she didn't, but she was squirming and rightly so, she's a farce.
Title: Re: Tax the rich and corporations..fair share....blah, blah
Post by: Lucifer on September 27, 2016, 05:36:31 AM
The majority of online polls give the win to Trump (except for CNN (Clinton News Network) which of course showed her winning hands down.

 Even that slob Michael Moore is admitting Trump did better. Personally I don't think these debates will have any effect as most people realize they are rigged for the left.

 I think we will see Trump gain more ground this week in the polls as he's out campaigning while Hillary stays at home.

 It's also noted the wonders of modern medicine and Hillary last night, but I suspect she will need the rest of the week to recuperate.

 Here's an article on snap polling from last night.  Even the perfesser should approve since its from one of his favorite news sites:  http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3809204/Most-snap-polls-Trump-winning-debate-landslide.html
Title: Re: Tax the rich and corporations..fair share....blah, blah
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on September 27, 2016, 05:38:00 AM
But but but the corrupt doormat didn't have an episode or seizure, so she must have won the debate...

Title: Re: Tax the rich and corporations..fair share....blah, blah
Post by: Lucifer on September 27, 2016, 05:44:38 AM
But but but the corrupt doormat didn't have an episode or seizure, so she must have won the debate...

The wonders of modern medicine.  It will take her days to recoup and they'll keep her hidden.
Title: Re: Tax the rich and corporations..fair share....blah, blah
Post by: Steingar on September 27, 2016, 06:04:59 AM
I think this is going to go down in history as a turning point for the Orange one, and will be compared to the Nixon/Kennedy debates.  Of course Trump supporters thought he won, but they're the only ones.
Title: Re: Tax the rich and corporations..fair share....blah, blah
Post by: Little Joe on September 27, 2016, 06:07:19 AM
I dont thnk either one scored enough points to change any ones mind. But at least Hillary didnt pass out.
Title: Re: Tax the rich and corporations..fair share....blah, blah
Post by: Steingar on September 27, 2016, 06:08:36 AM
I dont thnk either one scored enough points to change any ones mind. But at least Hillary didnt pass out.

"sniff sniff"
Title: Re: Tax the rich and corporations..fair share....blah, blah
Post by: President in Exile YOLT on September 27, 2016, 06:30:00 AM
Romney trounced Obama in their first debate, then faded. It ain't over until the fat lady locks up.
Title: Re: Tax the rich and corporations..fair share....blah, blah
Post by: Number7 on September 27, 2016, 06:33:56 AM
But but but the corrupt doormat didn't have an episode or seizure, so she must have won the debate...

I found it distracting that Lester Holt, the (cough, cough, sputter, sputter) moderator never asked a single question about the Clinton family crime syndicate, I mean foundation. The total, all in, protect Hilary Clinton at all costs handling of the debate was another chapter in the hijacking of America for communists.
Title: Re: Tax the rich and corporations..fair share....blah, blah
Post by: Steingar on September 27, 2016, 06:38:02 AM
I found it distracting that Lester Holt, the (cough, cough, sputter, sputter) moderator never asked a single question about the Clinton family crime syndicate, I mean foundation. The total, all in, protect Hilary Clinton at all costs handling of the debate was another chapter in the hijacking of America for communists.

I wish he would have.  The Clinton foundation has saved the lives of children in Africa.  The Trump foundation paid his legal bills and bought him a six foot painting of his own self.  Bring it on.
Title: Re: Tax the rich and corporations..fair share....blah, blah
Post by: Number7 on September 27, 2016, 06:39:35 AM
I wish he would have.  The Clinton foundation has saved the lives of children in Africa.  The Trump foundation paid his legal bills and bought him a six foot painting of his own self.  Bring it on.

Your understanding of the Clinton crime syndicate is pathetic at best, insane in truth. The fact that you pretend to such grandiose achievements while ignoring the overwhelming incidence of bribe taking is why people think progressive academics are as useful as a board stretcher.
Title: Re: Tax the rich and corporations..fair share....blah, blah
Post by: Lucifer on September 27, 2016, 06:41:32 AM
I found it distracting that Lester Holt, the (cough, cough, sputter, sputter) moderator never asked a single question about the Clinton family crime syndicate, I mean foundation. The total, all in, protect Hilary Clinton at all costs handling of the debate was another chapter in the hijacking of America for communists.

Holt was auditioning for Hillary's Press Secretary. Asked Trump 6 follow up questions, Hillary none. Interrupted Trump 41 times, Hillary 7.  One article this morning even called Lester Holt the "3rd debater".
Title: Re: Tax the rich and corporations..fair share....blah, blah
Post by: Little Joe on September 27, 2016, 06:49:32 AM
I wish he would have.  The Clinton foundation has saved the lives of children in Africa.  The Trump foundation paid his legal bills and bought him a six foot painting of his own self.  Bring it on.
Do you believe in: "The ends justify the means"?

FYI, sometimes I do.
Title: Re: Tax the rich and corporations..fair share....blah, blah
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on September 27, 2016, 07:20:34 AM
Do you believe in: "The ends justify the means"?

FYI, sometimes I do.

sidejack:  when does the ends justify the means?

Title: Re: Tax the rich and corporations..fair share....blah, blah
Post by: Little Joe on September 27, 2016, 07:50:55 AM
sidejack:  when does the ends justify the means?
When dealing with issues of true national security. When tellng "little white lies" to protect someone. Not often, but occasionally. To think otherwise is too rigid and idealistic for me.
Title: Re: Tax the rich and corporations..fair share....blah, blah
Post by: PaulS on September 27, 2016, 08:00:38 AM
So the "rich" top 5 %  paid 57% of all federal income tax and Hillary is going to tax them more.  What a loser, she avoids taxes with her foundation.
Title: Re: Tax the rich and corporations..fair share....blah, blah
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on September 27, 2016, 08:44:26 AM
When dealing with issues of true national security. When tellng "little white lies" to protect someone. Not often, but occasionally. To think otherwise is too rigid and idealistic for me.

um, the only people that will pay more taxes are those that aren't quite rich enough to afford the army of lawyers and accountants hiding income from the Feds.

Title: Re: Tax the rich and corporations..fair share....blah, blah
Post by: Little Joe on September 27, 2016, 09:01:12 AM
um, the only people that will pay more taxes are those that aren't quite rich enough to afford the army of lawyers and accountants hiding income from the Feds.
Uh,
What does that have to do with any of my posts?
Title: Re: Tax the rich and corporations..fair share....blah, blah
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on September 27, 2016, 09:22:02 AM
Uh,
What does that have to do with any of my posts?

not much.

Hit the wrong "quote" button.  Meant to quote "So the "rich" top 5 %  paid 57% of all federal income tax and Hillary is going to tax them more.  What a loser, she avoids taxes with her foundation."

Does that make more sense?  (admittedly, it wouldn't be hard, eh?)

Title: Re: Tax the rich and corporations..fair share....blah, blah
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on September 27, 2016, 09:22:21 AM
So the "rich" top 5 %  paid 57% of all federal income tax and Hillary is going to tax them more.  What a loser, she avoids taxes with her foundation.

um, the only people that will pay more taxes are those that aren't quite rich enough to afford the army of lawyers and accountants hiding income from the Feds.

Title: Re: Tax the rich and corporations..fair share....blah, blah
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on September 27, 2016, 09:58:27 AM
http://blog.dilbert.com/post/151007796236/i-score-the-first-debate

In which we learn a new term!

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uncanny_valley
Title: Re: Tax the rich and corporations..fair share....blah, blah
Post by: Little Joe on September 27, 2016, 11:11:46 AM
http://blog.dilbert.com/post/151007796236/i-score-the-first-debate

In which we learn a new term!

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uncanny_valley
I was just sure that "uncanny valley" was going to refer somehow to cleavage!  :)
Title: Re: Tax the rich and corporations..fair share....blah, blah
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on September 27, 2016, 11:20:52 AM
I was just sure that "uncanny valley" was going to refer somehow to cleavage!  :)
  ;D
Title: Re: Tax the rich and corporations..fair share....blah, blah
Post by: JeffDG on September 27, 2016, 04:31:14 PM
The majority of online polls give the win to Trump (except for CNN (Clinton News Network) which of course showed her winning hands down.
If online polls had any validity, we'd be talking about President Ron Paul's second term ending in triumph.
Title: Re: Tax the rich and corporations..fair share....blah, blah
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on September 28, 2016, 07:01:10 AM
https://www.facebook.com/recoil.dave/videos/1438100089551448/


What do you think, photoshopped?
Title: Re: Tax the rich and corporations..fair share....blah, blah
Post by: Lucifer on September 28, 2016, 07:07:25 AM
https://www.facebook.com/recoil.dave/videos/1438100089551448/


What do you think, photoshopped?

No doubt, it was readily apparent she had the questions beforehand as she almost answered them before they were asked.  For Dems cheating is fair game (for them).

 Also noted how the Hillary Campaign Communication Dept (also known as the MSM) doesn't want to talk about her health but zeroed in on Trump's sniffles, even going as far as to suggest it was due to cocaine.
Title: Re: Tax the rich and corporations..fair share....blah, blah
Post by: Gary on September 28, 2016, 08:37:00 AM
No doubt, it was readily apparent she had the questions beforehand as she almost answered them before they were asked.  For Dems cheating is fair game (for them).

 Also noted how the Hillary Campaign Communication Dept (also known as the MSM) doesn't want to talk about her health but zeroed in on Trump's sniffles, even going as far as to suggest it was due to cocaine.

That's a hoot!  There wasn't a single question asked at the debate that hasn't been asked before.  The economy, security, ISIS, the birther issue....  Any decent amount of preparation would have indicated those same issues would come up again.

Title: Re: Tax the rich and corporations..fair share....blah, blah
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on September 28, 2016, 08:38:34 AM
https://www.facebook.com/recoil.dave/videos/1438100089551448/


What do you think, photoshopped?
If it's real, it's probably something medical. 
Title: Re: Tax the rich and corporations..fair share....blah, blah
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on September 28, 2016, 08:42:31 AM
That's a hoot!  There wasn't a single question asked at the debate that hasn't been asked before.  The economy, security, ISIS, the birther issue....  Any decent amount of preparation would have indicated those same issues would come up again.
Yep.  She's not robust healthwise though.  She left right afterward while Trump stayed.  I saw video of her being led slowly into the ever-present black van that they lifted her into on 9/11. 
Title: Re: Tax the rich and corporations..fair share....blah, blah
Post by: Lucifer on September 28, 2016, 08:43:00 AM
That's a hoot!  There wasn't a single question asked at the debate that hasn't been asked before.  The economy, security, ISIS, the birther issue....  Any decent amount of preparation would have indicated those same issues would come up again.

 Uh, no.  Those answers rolled off very quickly, almost too quickly. 

 It is funny Hillary is still pumping the birther issue when it was her and her campaign that started it. However, the MSM won't talk about that part.

 And it was a good audition for Lester Holt, I'm sure he scored big points with the Clintons.
Title: Re: Tax the rich and corporations..fair share....blah, blah
Post by: Lucifer on September 28, 2016, 08:43:56 AM
Yep.  She's not robust healthwise though.  She left right afterward while Trump stayed.  I saw video of her being led slowly into the ever-present black van that they lifted her into on 9/11.

 They had to hook up all the wires to her.  :D
Title: Re: Tax the rich and corporations..fair share....blah, blah
Post by: Gary on September 28, 2016, 09:11:58 AM
Uh, no.  Those answers rolled off very quickly, almost too quickly. 

Uh... Yeah.  The answers to the questions asked have already been covered at great length.  That is what pre-debate preparation is for.

It is funny Hillary is still pumping the birther issue when it was her and her campaign that started it. However, the MSM won't talk about that part.

Can you show me a quote from Hillary where she supported the birther issue?

And it was a good audition for Lester Holt, I'm sure he scored big points with the Clintons.

No idea what Mr. Holt is auditioning for.  Didn't think he did that bad a job.
Title: Re: Tax the rich and corporations..fair share....blah, blah
Post by: Gary on September 28, 2016, 09:22:17 AM
If online polls had any validity, we'd be talking about President Ron Paul's second term ending in triumph.

 ;) Do these on-line polls have any type of "voter ID"?  How do we know that someone did not vote multiple times?  ;)
Title: Re: Tax the rich and corporations..fair share....blah, blah
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on September 28, 2016, 10:06:24 AM
If it's real, it's probably something medical.

Actually turns out it is the transmitter and wire for the lapel mic that each of them wore.
Title: Re: Tax the rich and corporations..fair share....blah, blah
Post by: Gary on September 28, 2016, 01:13:34 PM
Actually turns out it is the transmitter and wire for the lapel mic that each of them wore.

Must be disappointing news to the tin foil hat crowd.
Title: Re: Tax the rich and corporations..fair share....blah, blah
Post by: Lucifer on September 28, 2016, 01:20:23 PM
Can you show me a quote from Hillary where she supported the birther issue?

Done in typical Clinton style.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-journalism/2015/09/26/washington-post-confirms-hillary-clinton-started-the-birther-movement/

http://www.thepoliticalinsider.com/7-news-stories-2008-prove-hillary-started-obama-birtherism/

Title: Re: Tax the rich and corporations..fair share....blah, blah
Post by: Gary on September 28, 2016, 01:30:54 PM
Done in typical Clinton style.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-journalism/2015/09/26/washington-post-confirms-hillary-clinton-started-the-birther-movement/

http://www.thepoliticalinsider.com/7-news-stories-2008-prove-hillary-started-obama-birtherism/

Interesting conspiracy theory supported by opinion and fuzzy facts.

Again, can you provide a verifiable quote by Hillary where she supports the theory that President Obama was born outside the country.
Title: Re: Tax the rich and corporations..fair share....blah, blah
Post by: Lucifer on September 28, 2016, 01:38:01 PM
Interesting conspiracy theory supported by opinion and fuzzy facts.

It's a vast right wing conspiracy.  ::)

Again, can you provide a verifiable quote by Hillary where she supports the theory that President Obama was born outside the country.

You must be new to the Clinton Machine.  ;)
Title: Re: Tax the rich and corporations..fair share....blah, blah
Post by: Gary on September 28, 2016, 02:03:06 PM
It's a vast right wing conspiracy.  ::)

Right wing conspiracy?  Thought it was a left wing conspiracy.  Whatever, I get all these different conspiracy theories all jumbled up, there are so many of them.  ;)

 
must be new to the Clinton Machine.  ;)

For some reason, your text made me think of Pink Floyd...  Flashback perhaps?  I can only take your words to mean that you can't provide a quote, but I'll wait.
Title: Re: Tax the rich and corporations..fair share....blah, blah
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on September 28, 2016, 02:10:21 PM
Actually turns out it is the transmitter and wire for the lapel mic that each of them wore.
The mikes were on the podiums.
Title: Re: Tax the rich and corporations..fair share....blah, blah
Post by: Gary on September 28, 2016, 02:19:25 PM
The mikes were on the podiums.

Believe there were both podium microphones and well as lapel microphones.  Both are clearly visible in the videos. How they do the "mixing" between the two, no idea.
Title: Re: Tax the rich and corporations..fair share....blah, blah
Post by: Anthony on September 28, 2016, 02:22:50 PM
For some reason, your text made me think of Pink Floyd...  Flashback perhaps?

Did you ever see Eric Clapton with Pink Floyd?  I did. 
Title: Re: Tax the rich and corporations..fair share....blah, blah
Post by: Gary on September 28, 2016, 02:24:43 PM
Did you ever see Eric Clapton with Pink Floyd?  I did.

No, but that would definitely be worth seeing!
Title: Re: Tax the rich and corporations..fair share....blah, blah
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on September 28, 2016, 03:36:43 PM
Believe there were both podium microphones and well as lapel microphones.  Both are clearly visible in the videos. How they do the "mixing" between the two, no idea.


For an event as huge at the debate was you have to have a backup plan.  I assume the lapel mics were the backup plan.
Title: Re: Tax the rich and corporations..fair share....blah, blah
Post by: Number7 on September 29, 2016, 08:07:28 AM
It's a vast right wing conspiracy.  ::)

You must be new to the Clinton Machine.  ;)

That would be David Plouffe from the Hilary Clinton campaign... unless Barack Obama was/is lying about it.

In 2008, Obama's Campaign Accused Hillary Clinton Of Circulating A Photo Of Obama In Muslim Attire. "Barack Obama's campaign accused Hillary Clinton's team Monday of circulating a photo of the Illinois senator donning traditional attire - clothing worn by area Muslims - as a goodwill gesture during an overseas trip." (Rebecca Sinderbrand, "Obama Camp Slams Clinton Team On Controversial Photo," CNN, 2/25/08)

    Obama's Campaign Manager, David Plouffe Said That By Circulating The Photo, Clinton's Campaign Was Engaged in "Shameful, Offensive Fear-Mongering." "The picture, which appeared on the Drudge Report this morning, was attributed to sources within the Clinton campaign - although the Web site did not reveal how many, or who, might have received the photo. In a statement, Obama's campaign manager, David Plouffe, said Clinton's campaign was engaged in 'shameful, offensive fear-mongering,' though he did not point to any proof beyond the original item that appeared on Matt Drudge's blog." (Rebecca Sinderbrand, "Obama Camp Slams Clinton Team On Controversial Photo," CNN, 2/25/08)


https://gop.com/clinton-falsely-claims-no-role-in-birther-controversy/

But... it could also have been Clinton campaign buddy Sidney Blumenthal...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3793626/Hillary-s-email-friend-Blumenthal-accused-spreading-birther-smear-2008-Clinton-campaign-admits-volunteer-did-too.html


(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2016/09/16/23/38764D2300000578-3793626-image-a-4_1474064360478.jpg)


The former Washington bureau chief for McClatchy, for example, has implicated known sketchball and Clinton sycophant Sidney Blumenthal, who served as a “senior adviser” for Hillary’s campaign in 2008, in trying to get reporters to investigate the so-called “birther” rumor.

    @HillaryClinton So why did your man #sidblumenthal spread the #obama birther rumor to me in 2008, asking us to investigate? Remember?

    — James Asher (@jimasher) September 16, 2016

The news organization even sent a reporter to Africa to investigate, at Blumenthal’s urging.

    Clinton 2008 sr adviser Sid Blumenthal pushed McClatchy so hard on birther story that they sent a reporter to Kenya.https://t.co/cuKqvVZfvh

    — Phil Kerpen (@kerpen) September 17, 2016

http://heatst.com/politics/hillary-obama-muslim-birther/

Now Steigar will be along shortly to tell us that he never personally saw any of these things, which means they are all false.
Title: Re: Tax the rich and corporations..fair share....blah, blah
Post by: nddons on September 29, 2016, 08:27:02 AM
That would be David Plouffe from the Hilary Clinton campaign... unless Barack Obama was/is lying about it.

In 2008, Obama's Campaign Accused Hillary Clinton Of Circulating A Photo Of Obama In Muslim Attire. "Barack Obama's campaign accused Hillary Clinton's team Monday of circulating a photo of the Illinois senator donning traditional attire - clothing worn by area Muslims - as a goodwill gesture during an overseas trip." (Rebecca Sinderbrand, "Obama Camp Slams Clinton Team On Controversial Photo," CNN, 2/25/08)

    Obama's Campaign Manager, David Plouffe Said That By Circulating The Photo, Clinton's Campaign Was Engaged in "Shameful, Offensive Fear-Mongering." "The picture, which appeared on the Drudge Report this morning, was attributed to sources within the Clinton campaign - although the Web site did not reveal how many, or who, might have received the photo. In a statement, Obama's campaign manager, David Plouffe, said Clinton's campaign was engaged in 'shameful, offensive fear-mongering,' though he did not point to any proof beyond the original item that appeared on Matt Drudge's blog." (Rebecca Sinderbrand, "Obama Camp Slams Clinton Team On Controversial Photo," CNN, 2/25/08)


https://gop.com/clinton-falsely-claims-no-role-in-birther-controversy/

But... it could also have been Clinton campaign buddy Sidney Blumenthal...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3793626/Hillary-s-email-friend-Blumenthal-accused-spreading-birther-smear-2008-Clinton-campaign-admits-volunteer-did-too.html


(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2016/09/16/23/38764D2300000578-3793626-image-a-4_1474064360478.jpg)


The former Washington bureau chief for McClatchy, for example, has implicated known sketchball and Clinton sycophant Sidney Blumenthal, who served as a “senior adviser” for Hillary’s campaign in 2008, in trying to get reporters to investigate the so-called “birther” rumor.

    @HillaryClinton So why did your man #sidblumenthal spread the #obama birther rumor to me in 2008, asking us to investigate? Remember?

    — James Asher (@jimasher) September 16, 2016

The news organization even sent a reporter to Africa to investigate, at Blumenthal’s urging.

    Clinton 2008 sr adviser Sid Blumenthal pushed McClatchy so hard on birther story that they sent a reporter to Kenya.https://t.co/cuKqvVZfvh

    — Phil Kerpen (@kerpen) September 17, 2016

http://heatst.com/politics/hillary-obama-muslim-birther/

Now Steigar will be along shortly to tell us that he never personally saw any of these things, which means they are all false.
Gotta hand it to old Lester Holt for fact checking things like this before accusing Trump of being a racist.