PILOT SPIN
Spin Zone => Spin Zone => Topic started by: Bob Noel on September 28, 2016, 08:03:16 AM
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Today's Boston Herald (no url, I read in a real newspaper) is reporting an interview with Elon Musk. Musk wants to colonize Mars, beginning flights in 10 years. "One path is we stay on Earth forever, and eventually there will be some sort of doomsday event. The alternative is to become a space-faring and multiplanet species"
While I understand his comment to avoid all eggs in one basket, I'm more excited about the adventure/exploration aspect.
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I'm ready to sign up!
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Personally I don't understand what the excitement of living on Mars brings. It's a hostile environment that would require lots of infrastructure for everything. You would literally be living in a bubble.
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Personally I don't understand what the excitement of living on Mars brings. It's a hostile environment that would require lots of infrastructure for everything. You would literally be living in a bubble.
Then exploration is not for you. No disrepect, but folks with your attitude are certainly welcome to stay behind on Earth.
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Personally I don't understand what the excitement of living on Mars brings. It's a hostile environment that would require lots of infrastructure for everything. You would literally be living in a bubble.
I'm sure your attitude was shared by most Europeans in the 16th century too...
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Then exploration is not for you. No disrepect, but folks with your attitude are certainly welcome to stay behind on Earth.
It's not an attitude. I could understand going somewhere that has something to offer, but Mars is not exactly a paradise. Perhaps there are mining opportunities, but what would you see as a benefit of colonizing a hostile environment?
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It's not an attitude. I could understand going somewhere that has something to offer, but Mars is not exactly a paradise. Perhaps there are mining opportunities, but what would you see as a benefit of colonizing a hostile environment?
Insurance for the human species. Once SMOD makes his appearance and wipes out all life on Earth, a backup set of humans would be useful.
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As much as I laud the effort I suspect it is more pipe dream than anything else. No one American has the resources necessary to undertake such an effort, I'm not certain all of us put together could do it. Keep in mind they haven't built the rocket, the ship, the Martian habitat, nothing.
All that said I still wish him and his endeavors well. Yeah, I'd sign up to go even though I know I'd die there. Someone has to chart new frontiers.
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So why isn't Musk looking at a small colony on the moon? Wouldn't that provide a "proof of concept" model to work out the bugs and refine his Mars model?
The moon is easily obtainable as we have already done brief exploration. Just 3 to 4 days away (space flight) and it would offer some of the same concerns of a Mars settlement.
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So why isn't Musk looking at a small colony on the moon? Wouldn't that provide a "proof of concept" model to work out the bugs and refine his Mars model?
The moon is easily obtainable as we have already done brief exploration. Just 3 to 4 days away (space flight) and it would offer some of the same concerns of a Mars settlement.
Atmosphere.
Mars has the theoretical ability of being terraformed, the moon does not.
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Today's Boston Herald (no url, I read in a real newspaper) is reporting an interview with Elon Musk. Musk wants to colonize Mars, beginning flights in 10 years. "One path is we stay on Earth forever, and eventually there will be some sort of doomsday event. The alternative is to become a space-faring and multiplanet species"
While I understand his comment to avoid all eggs in one basket, I'm more excited about the adventure/exploration aspect.
That is cool. Maybe a pipe dream, but do give Elon Musk credit for trying to move it along.
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Musk must need to raise more money.
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Atmosphere.
Mars has the theoretical ability of being terraformed, the moon does not.
Maybe, but that would take decades at a minimum. Probably centuries. A test colony on the moon would help iron out a lot of the bugs and allow for the research and the technological development that will be needed at a much lower cost. The moon would make for a great proof-of-concept.
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There are challenges to a moon colony that may outweigh the relative ease of getting there. With no atmosphere, low gravity, and charged particles from the sun, the lunar dust is particularly nasty. Clings to everything, gets into everything, and resembles tiny glass shards. Very bad to breathe and not good on equipment in general. The cost of dealing with lunar dust may be greater than the cost of getting to the much nicer environment of Mars. But either way, I'd love to see a longterm offworld colony in my lifetime.
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Personally I don't understand what the excitement of living on Mars brings. It's a hostile environment that would require lots of infrastructure for everything. You would literally be living in a bubble.
Sounds like living in the US under Obama. 😉
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Sounds like living in the US under Obama. 😉
Damn! I just ruined my keyboard by spewing coffee all over it!
Excellent!
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Today's Boston Herald (no url, I read in a real newspaper) is reporting an interview with Elon Musk. Musk wants to colonize Mars, beginning flights in 10 years. "One path is we stay on Earth forever, and eventually there will be some sort of doomsday event. The alternative is to become a space-faring and multiplanet species"
While I understand his comment to avoid all eggs in one basket, I'm more excited about the adventure/exploration aspect.
Think about this. How many Americans and other people in this world were not even alive when man last stood on the moon? To these people, the idea of going to Mars is so abstract that it may as well be the Andromeda Galaxy.
To those of us who saw man walk on the moon, didn't you think that a mission to Mars was merely a decade or so from the last moon walk? I sure did.
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Think about this. How many Americans and other people in this world were not even alive when man last stood on the moon? To these people, the idea of going to Mars is so abstract that it may as well be the Andromeda Galaxy.
To those of us who saw man walk on the moon, didn't you think that a mission to Mars was merely a decade or so from the last moon walk? I sure did.
It WAS a decade away at the time - we lost the nerve, the drive and the confidence to do it, wrapped up instead in a decade of self doubt and self-loathing.
'Gimp
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It WAS a decade away at the time - we lost the nerve, the drive and the confidence to do it, wrapped up instead in a decade of self doubt and self-loathing.
'Gimp
We allowed the Democrats (Fascist Progressives) to convince us we weren't good enough to explore space anymore. They made our culture fear their own shadow by projecting their weaknesses on to others. Despicable. The Media, and our Education system K through university just reinforced the message.
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Sounds like living in the US under Obama. 😉
I know people that are doing just fine here, without putting out any effort.
On the other hand, people that are working hard trying to improve their personal condition are having a tough time.