PILOT SPIN
Spin Zone => Spin Zone => Topic started by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on October 04, 2016, 11:09:02 AM
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I keep seeing people referring to the coming revolution if HRC is elected.
What does this revolution look like? How can I get ready to participate?
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I keep seeing people referring to the coming revolution if HRC is elected.
What does this revolution look like? How can I get ready to participate?
I don't have a crystal ball. However, if Hillary succeeds in getting elected, which she very well may, and then succeeds in packing the Supreme Court with far left, radicals that are against the Second Amendment, which she has promised to do, that will alienate a large part of our country.
If we get what she has promised, Australian/UK gun bans and confiscation, it could get ugly. In reality, I think the majority of the populace will roll over, and take it. There will be no revolution because I don't think this is America anymore. Until we can't afford our mortgage payments, and our Beemers, it will be status quo.
If people actually man up and fight back, get water, freeze dried food, and 5.56 ammo. .308's wouldn't hurt either. :)
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I have been thinking about getting a gun. As a rational, peace-loving optimist, this startles me. However, I am down to only one hesitation. I have always had the fear that a gun could misfire and blow up in my hand, leaving me dead or without a hand.
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When Reagan said that we are only one generation away from losing all of our freedoms, he was talking about this year.
The rate at which we are being regulated and coerced into surrendering every liberty we have is at a pace that will quickly bring us to the level of government intrusion not seen outside of the old USSR, and it's the progressives, liberals and democrats working hand in glove with people like Soros to bring it about.
There is a tipping point after which revolution becomes the only solution and I firmly believe we are approaching it at warp speed.
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Over on American Thinker the commenters are discussing an EMP attack.
http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2016/10/if_hillary_wins_comments.html
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I have been thinking about getting a gun. As a rational, peace-loving optimist, this startles me. However, I am down to only one hesitation. I have always had the fear that a gun could misfire and blow up in my hand, leaving me dead or without a hand.
Becky, congratulations about your thought process. To quell your fears, I've only seen one gun that "blew up" in someone's hand, and that was because of an improperly loaded cartridge (actually underpowered hand loaded cartridge where the bullet never made it out of the barrel, and the second bullet caused the explosion from the pressure. If you buy factory ammo, this should never be a problem.)
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Get the gun. Leave the cannoli.
Seriously, take a gun shooting class. They will almost certainly use a .22 pistol, which are not just a breeze to shoot, they are outright fun. After that, you can make up your own mind.
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I have been thinking about getting a gun. As a rational, peace-loving optimist, this startles me. However, I am down to only one hesitation. I have always had the fear that a gun could misfire and blow up in my hand, leaving me dead or without a hand.
Do it! It's great fun. I was fearful of guns at first. I literally jumped with fear from the shots when I first went to the range, and yes, I feared it would "blow up" in my hand. But you get over that really fast. Like anything else, like flying an airplane, you need to learn how to do it safely. Yes there is risk, but you manage the risk to minimize it.
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My husband is not interested in guns so I told him tonight I was thinking about taking charge of our defense by learning how to shoot. He said he would feel safer if I didn't. :-*
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My husband is not interested in guns so I told him tonight I was thinking about taking charge of our defense by learning how to shoot. He said he would feel safer if I didn't. :-*
Feeling safer is one thing.
Actually being safer in another.
Just like with aviation, there are risks associated with a firearm, but they can be managed.
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The media, our education system, and government has promoted that guns are unsafe, and "go off by themselves", and are too dangerous for the average citizen to own and only police and military are qualified. Well tens of millions of average citizens, including women own guns, and shoot safely. They also have successfully defended themselves by having a gun. As others have said, take a course, get training, and you will see it is just a tool. Yes, it goes bang, but not by itself, and needs a human to shoot it.
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The media, our education system, and government has promoted that guns are unsafe, and "go off by themselves", and are too dangerous for the average citizen to own and only police and military are qualified. Well tens of millions of average citizens, including women own guns, and shoot safely. They also have successfully defended themselves by having a gun. As others have said, take a course, get training, and you will see it is just a tool. Yes, it goes bang, but not by itself, and needs a human to shoot it.
Don't forget hollywood. What they do with firearms in movies is almost always irresponsible, never mind the special effects required to make firearms do things (like shoot while tumbling down stairs in "True Lies" or ammunition in a fire going off in "First Blood")
I always get amused by the number of times someone can fire an automatic without reloading.
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We recently purchased a gun for my wife. This is her first after many years of showing no interest, and sometimes fear. We went to the range a couple weeks ago and he had a lot of enjoyment shooting paper. The only thing that wigged her out was a large caliber hand gun 2 lanes over. The percussion was more than she liked and she actually stepped out for a couple minutes. Once back in she was fine.
I guess that's a long winded way to say, go for it!
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Don't forget hollywood. What they do with firearms in movies is almost always irresponsible, never mind the special effects required to make firearms do things (like shoot while tumbling down stairs in "True Lies" or ammunition in a fire going off in "First Blood")
I always get amused by the number of times someone can fire an automatic without reloading.
I include "Hollywood" in the Media, and yes, you're right they make weapons look like they have their own will. A gun is a tool, no better or worse than the person using it.
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My husband is not interested in guns so I told him tonight I was thinking about taking charge of our defense by learning how to shoot. He said he would feel safer if I didn't. :-*
By what rationale would he feel safer?
Go learn anyway. It's fun to do and you never know when that skill might be useful. You can decide later whether or not you want a gun.
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I guess only the commoners do guns now, bunkers are the real thing. Celebs and elites back HRC but don't trust her or Trump.
https://www.lewrockwell.com/2016/10/tyler-durden/billionaires-bunker/
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My husband is not interested in guns so I told him tonight I was thinking about taking charge of our defense by learning how to shoot. He said he would feel safer if I didn't. :-*
Oh brother. Does your husband have a tool box filled with tools? An unloaded gun is as dangerous as a pair of vice grips - it might pinch you, or hurt if you drop it on bare feet, but it cannot kill you or anyone else in that state.
You can control whatever risk your husband thinks exist by only loading it when you are ready to shoot it.
Having a fully loaded pistol magazine near, but not in, the pistol maintains that safe state that I mentioned.
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Oh brother. Does your husband have a tool box filled with tools? An unloaded gun is as dangerous as a pair of vice grips - it might pinch you, or hurt if you drop it on bare feet, but it cannot kill you or anyone else in that state.
You can control whatever risk your husband thinks exist by only loading it when you are ready to shoot it.
Having a fully loaded pistol magazine near, but not in, the pistol maintains that safe state that I mentioned.
to pile on a little more...
ammunition in a fire goes pop, not BOOM
SAAMI (Sporting Arms and Ammunition Manufacturers' Institute) has a video where they showed what happens to ammunition in a fire and how easy it is for firefighters to put out a fire even when it is a bonfire with 250,000 rounds in it (and how safe it was for the firefighters).
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Oh brother. Does your husband have a tool box filled with tools? An unloaded gun is as dangerous as a pair of vice grips - it might pinch you, or hurt if you drop it on bare feet, but it cannot kill you or anyone else in that state.
You can control whatever risk your husband thinks exist by only loading it when you are ready to shoot it.
Having a fully loaded pistol magazine near, but not in, the pistol maintains that safe state that I mentioned.
I also know people that keep a loaded gun in one of those little safes that you can open quickly with a code. That's a good ideas if you have kids in the house or that come to the house.
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A gun is a tool, no better or worse than the person using it.
This is a big thing I try to impress upon my gun fearing friends. It's just a tool, like a rake, shovel, or hoe. Not every job calls for a shovel, and when carrying not every bad situation is suited to one using their weapon. But without the tool, one has no choice, no options.
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By what rationale would he feel safer?
Go learn anyway. It's fun to do and you never know when that skill might be useful. You can decide later whether or not you want a gun.
If I was in the worst part of town at night, I would feel safer if my wife didn't have a gun.
I can just imagine her pulling it out, shaking with fear, delaying pulling the trigger and having it taken from her by the thugs.
No matter how many paper targets you hit dead center, when the time comes to use it in real life, a whole new set of dynamics come into play. Some people can make the transition from paper to flesh. Some can't.
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Someone who should know, has shown that a good shoot that is justified can cost you $100k in legal costs before it is all over. That certainly is something to think about.
Supposedly it is cheaper in Texas...
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Someone who should know, has shown that a good shoot that is justified can cost you $100k in legal costs before it is all over. That certainly is something to think about.
Supposedly it is cheaper in Texas...
The NRA should offer a "Legal Plan" to cover defense fees. They'd make a fortune.
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I don't think the NRA does, but these folks do:
https://www.usconcealedcarry.com/ (https://www.usconcealedcarry.com/)
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I don't think the NRA does, but these folks do:
https://www.usconcealedcarry.com/ (https://www.usconcealedcarry.com/)
One of my partners has USCCA coverage, and is happy with it. I may join it too.
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My husband is not interested in guns so I told him tonight I was thinking about taking charge of our defense by learning how to shoot. He said he would feel safer if I didn't. :-*
Interesting. When I decided I wanted to buy a gun and learn how to shoot, it went like this:
Me: Honey, could I maybe please would it be okay if maybe I bought a handgun and took shooting lessons?
Him: I would love that, I always wanted to buy handguns and go shooting but always assumed you would disapprove and I assumed you wouldn't allow guns in the house.
Me: Where on earth did you get that idea?
Him: Because you never said you wanted to.
Me: That's because I assumed you wouldn't allow handguns in the house.
Him: Where on earth did you get that idea?
Me: Because you didn't have any and never said you wanted any.
Him: But that's because I assumed you didn't want me to have them.
Me: wtf?
We'd been married 15 years.
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;D ;D ;D
And so men and women "communicate."
Same thing happened to us at 10 years, with flying and the plane.
"But you never said you wanted to, and never talked about buying one."
Except I don't share the enthusiasm. I am a right seater only.