PILOT SPIN
Spin Zone => Spin Zone => Topic started by: Jim Logajan on December 01, 2016, 04:28:00 PM
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"How awkward."
http://reason.com/blog/2016/12/01/ohio-state-knife-attacker-abdul-artan-wa (http://reason.com/blog/2016/12/01/ohio-state-knife-attacker-abdul-artan-wa)
(Comments posted to Reason.com articles make this forum seem downright tame sometimes.)
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"How awkward."
http://reason.com/blog/2016/12/01/ohio-state-knife-attacker-abdul-artan-wa (http://reason.com/blog/2016/12/01/ohio-state-knife-attacker-abdul-artan-wa)
(Comments posted to Reason.com articles make this forum seem downright tame sometimes.)
I see it! I get an A for spotting the microaggression!
Mr. Logajan's parenthetical statement makes me feel less than adequate. I identify as witty, erudite, and wild. He has no idea what a struggle it is to be me. I blame him and his ilk for the oppressive, hateful environment they create. Such judgmentalness is surely not what our Founding Parents intended!
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I see it! I get an A for spotting the microaggression!
Mr. Logajan's parenthetical statement makes me feel less than adequate. I identify as witty, erudite, and wild. He has no idea what a struggle it is to be me. I blame him and his ilk for the oppressive, hateful environment they create. Such judgmentalness is surely not what our Founding Parents intended!
I like to think I'm really more of a macro-aggression type of person when I put my mind to it. Like over on the flag burning thread....
(My guess is Abdul Artan probably would have gotten a poor grade in that class if was graded in a tradition (microaggression) way.
I'm sure he would still pass, though, were he still alive - bad grades being forms of microaggressions.)
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I got stuck in a classroom with 600 students because of this guy.
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I got stuck in a classroom with 600 students because of this guy.
Safe Space? ;)
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Safe Space? ;)
Evidently, devoid of Mooneys. :)
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Safe Space? ;)
yes, no one had a gun.
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I was in a giant lecture hall. A couple of my students were worried because of all the open doors, and thought they should be somewhere more secure. I pointed out that there really wasn't another space for me to cram 600 students. I ran outside and asked the LEO outside the building what was going on. He said ther was an incident a couple buildings down, that we were on lockdown and that I should keep my students indoors. I went back in and told everyone they were stuck for the duration. Then, just to get everyone's mind off things I conducted an impromptu Origami lesson.
I was able to release them a shot time later, and they cancelled classes to give the cops time to do cop things. The dude was really whacked from the sounds of it. Good thing too, he could have done some real damage with a firearm. Thankfully he was limited to his car and a cleaver.
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Good thing too, he could have done some real damage with a firearm. Thankfully he was limited to his car and a cleaver.
unh huh..
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Not a lot of room to build up speed where he was, and he was in a small car, not a big truck.
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Good thing too, he could have done some real damage with a firearm. Thankfully he was limited to his car and a cleaver.
Oh yeah firearms are the only way to kill people the best. Cars, trucks, airplanes are never are used by people to kill en masse. Get a grip. Trump won. The Second Amendment will stay, and the Supreme Court will get more Scalias, and uphold our Constitutional RIGHTS!
Your precious Obama sold more guns, and ammo, especially AR-15's!
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I was in a giant lecture hall. A couple of my students were worried because of all the open doors, and thought they should be somewhere more secure. I pointed out that there really wasn't another space for me to cram 600 students. I ran outside and asked the LEO outside the building what was going on. He said ther was an incident a couple buildings down, that we were on lockdown and that I should keep my students indoors. I went back in and told everyone they were stuck for the duration. Then, just to get everyone's mind off things I conducted an impromptu Origami lesson.
What people often forget is one purpose of the lockdown is so first responders have fewer people getting in the way (easier for the bad guy to hide in a crowd, etc)
Good thing too, he could have done some real damage with a firearm. Thankfully he was limited to his car and a cleaver.
good grief.
a question for the group: who knows (without googling) what weapons were used in the worst school mass murder in US history?
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a question for the group: who knows (without googling) what weapons were used in the worst school mass murder in US history?
Well, I admit I did google it, and I was quite surprised that I had never heard of that one.
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What people often forget is one purpose of the lockdown is so first responders have fewer people getting in the way (easier for the bad guy to hide in a crowd, etc)
Kinda what I figured. Also, in the confusion of when this first happened no one was certain if it was one attacker or many. They had the whole street closed off all day too. Had to detour around the back side of campus to get home that night.
a question for the group: who knows (without googling) what weapons were used in the worst school mass murder in US history?
Guy was armed with a cleaver. If I really wanted to attack a person with a knife, the last one I would choose is a cleaver. One edge and no point. No good for stabbing, and no good at all on the upswing.
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Guy was armed with a cleaver. If I really wanted to attack a person with a knife, the last one I would choose is a cleaver. One edge and no point. No good for stabbing, and no good at all on the upswing.
Anyone armed with a cleaver has the advantage over someone that doesn't anything
Someone comes at me with a cleaver, I'm not going to respond by pulling a knife.
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Butcher: 1
Sheep: 0
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Anyone armed with a cleaver has the advantage over someone that doesn't anything
Someone comes at me with a cleaver, I'm not going to respond by pulling a knife.
Maybe if we put up signs saying "Knife Free Zone" or "Cleaver Free Zone" then those who want to attack would just lay down their weapons?
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Maybe if we put up signs saying "Knife Free Zone" or "Cleaver Free Zone" then those who want to attack would just lay down their weapons?
No, those things can't kill efficiently. We need to create gun free zones so the criminals with guns won't go there.
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No, those things can't kill efficiently. We need to create gun free zones so the criminals with guns won't go there.
Funny you should mention it, the University is a gun-free zone. And look, it worked! The guy was armed with a cleaver.
Anyone armed with a cleaver has the advantage over someone that doesn't anything
Says you. Steingar does not fear cleavers. Now, arm someone with my French chef's knife and they could do some damage. Thing is long, sharp, pointy, and well-balanced. Of course, only losers bring knives to a gun fight. The attacker was killed by an OSU police office within minutes.
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the University is a un-free zone.
freudian slip there?
;D
Says you. Steingar does not fear cleavers.
Then Steingar isn't engaging his "triple digit IQ"
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Funny you should mention it, the University is a un-free zone. And look, it worked! The guy was armed with a cleaver.
So criminals pay attention to laws when they are breaking laws?
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Funny you should mention it, the University is a un-free zone. And look, it worked! The guy was armed with a cleaver.
Says you. Steingar does not fear cleavers. Now, arm someone with my French chef's knife and they could do some damage. Thing is long, sharp, pointy, and well-balanced. Of course, only losers bring knives to a gun fight. The attacker was killed by an OSU police office within minutes.
In the history of the world no criminal has ever walked away from a crime because a sign said it was a (pick your crime) free zone. It is another of the symptoms of liberalism that convince that it is a mental disorder.
Imagine Hitler stopping at the Polish border and saying to his armies, "We've got to go home boys! This is a war free zone!"
Speaking of yourself in the third person is another of the signs of egomania that you exhibit.
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I was in a giant lecture hall. A couple of my students were worried because of all the open doors, and thought they should be somewhere more secure. I pointed out that there really wasn't another space for me to cram 600 students. I ran outside and asked the LEO outside the building what was going on. He said ther was an incident a couple buildings down, that we were on lockdown and that I should keep my students indoors. I went back in and told everyone they were stuck for the duration. Then, just to get everyone's mind off things I conducted an impromptu Origami lesson.
I was able to release them a shot time later, and they cancelled classes to give the cops time to do cop things. The dude was really whacked from the sounds of it. Good thing too, he could have done some real damage with a firearm. Thankfully he was limited to his car and a cleaver.
I would have asked who was carrying and positioned them by the doors. ;)
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I would have asked who was carrying and positioned them by the doors. ;)
If someone is carrying firearms in my class and I learn about it they will be asked to leave. Moreover, they'll likely be disciplined or expelled.
As far as the "incident", there was an armed LEO right outside. I wasn't terribly worried about armed assailants entering the building from outside. I have to admit, armed persons entering a classroom are a persistent nightmare. But I'll trust to my wits. When I balance the likelihood of an armed intruder with the likelihood that I'd be discovered with a weapons and fired, the decision becomes quite easy.
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If someone is carrying firearms in my class and I learn about it they will be asked to leave. Moreover, they'll likely be disciplined or expelled.
As far as the "incident", there was an armed LEO right outside. I wasn't terribly worried about armed assailants entering the building from outside. I have to admit, armed persons entering a classroom are a persistent nightmare. But I'll trust to my wits. When I balance the likelihood of an armed intruder with the likelihood that I'd be discovered with a weapons and fired, the decision becomes quite easy.
...said the sheep on the way into the slaughterhouse.
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...said the sheep on the way into the slaughterhouse.
Steingar is no coward. And well-applied intelligence is a far stronger weapon than any firearm.
That said, where I work is private property. I will therefore obey the wishes of its administrators. Even if I couldn't get fired for carrying a firearm (I can), I wouldn't just out of courtesy. I feel carrying a weapon onto private property against the wishes of the owners is outright discourteous.
Of course, intelligence is also useful for risk assessment. The number of school shootings in the nation is actually very, very low, spectacularly so for the number of firearms in private hands. The cost of obtaining and maintaining said firearm, along with the risk of discovery far outweighs the risk of a school shooter. Had the fellow responsible for the "incident" showed up in my classroom I'd not have hesitated to engage him. Sorry, just can't get worked up over a cleaver.
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The number of school shootings in the nation is actually very, very low, spectacularly so for the number of firearms in private hands.
Good to hear. No justification for onerous unconstitutional limits on the right to bear arms.
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Had the fellow responsible for the "incident" showed up in my classroom I'd not have hesitated to engage him. Sorry, just can't get worked up over a cleaver.
Engage him in what? A debate on globull warming? The guy would probably fall asleep, or just beg you to kill him. SO, maybe a win.
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Steingar is sounding alarmingly like Diane Feinstein. She actually thinks if all America disarms then criminals will automatically disarm themselves out of their sense of shame. I guess triple digit IQ doens't help in the common sense department at all.
But I am glad to know that Steingar thinks so highly of his IQ as that makes at least one of us.
Of course anyone that simply HAS to brag about their intelligence, rarely is that awfully bright.
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Good to hear. No justification for onerous unconstitutional limits on the right to bear arms.
I could not agree more. The number of firearm deaths in this country may seem frighteningly high, but given all the firearms in private hands is actually quite low. Moreover, the vast majority of firearm deaths involve the firearm owner and someone familiar to them. Atrocities like the mass shooter in Miami are not at all the norm, indeed they are vanishingly rare. I believe that legislation based on outlying phenomena is poorly representative and bad law. Those prumolgating such statues are engaged in the lowest form of politics, playing to what they perceive is majority opinion to win elections.
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Michael. Sorry, your brainwashing is too obvious.
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We've been told many times that not all democrats want to get rid of firearms.
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I believe that legislation based on outlying phenomena is poorly representative and bad law. Those prumolgating such statues are engaged in the lowest form of politics, playing to what they perceive is majority opinion to win elections.
Yeah, transgender bathroom laws come to mind.
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Yeah, transgender bathroom laws come to mind.
Exactly what I thought upon reading those two sentences of Steingar's.
I have not reasearched, but other faux majorities come to mind. Gay marriage was a Supreme Court edict, I believe, but I think even in states where it passed people might vote differently after seeing the gays go after photographers, bakers and florists with no tolerance for their positions.
How many Americans really are comfortable with late-term abortion?
The ACA was foisted on us all because of a minority of outliers.
And so on.
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A guy filling in on talk radio locally yesterday was talking about concealed carry and asking folks to call in, specifically about church. He got a lot of calls from folks that carry to church, even going so far as to say that they sat near the back off on the side so they would have a good chance of getting anyone that cam through the door shooting. One guy even said he pastor asked him to carry.
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I'm pretty sure Steingar is in the minority of opinion that you never defend yourself, but wait for the police to do it for you, even if you are in immediate mortal danger. His bloviating aside, he is a strict, no room for judgement, progressive on all subjects, firearm being only the most pathetic.
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Yeah, transgender bathroom laws come to mind.
Tyranny of the majority certainly. I dislike discrimination in all its forms.
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Tyranny of the majority certainly. I dislike discrimination in all its forms.
Likewise.