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Title: Is Presdient-Elect Trump channeling Tom Clancy?
Post by: Bob Noel on December 06, 2016, 10:28:36 AM
For those that have read Tom Clancy's "Executive Orders", are the liberals criticism of Presdient-Elect Trump's cabinet choices reminding you of stuff from "Executive Orders"?

Title: Re: Is Presdient-Elect Trump channeling Tom Clancy?
Post by: You Only Live Twice on December 06, 2016, 10:46:07 AM
For those that have read Tom Clancy's "Executive Orders", are the liberals criticism of Presdient-Elect Trump's cabinet choices reminding you of stuff from "Executive Orders"?

been a long time since I read that, don't remember the details
Title: Re: Is Presdient-Elect Trump channeling Tom Clancy?
Post by: Bob Noel on December 06, 2016, 11:00:12 AM
been a long time since I read that, don't remember the details

Lots of hand wringing about people without experience selected to run a large bureaucracy (the character President Ryan selected people who knew how to do actual work)

Title: Re: Is Presdient-Elect Trump channeling Tom Clancy?
Post by: bflynn on December 06, 2016, 09:48:28 PM
I had put Clancy out of mind and not thought of him in at least a decade.

Thanks for nothing...
Title: Re: Is Presdient-Elect Trump channeling Tom Clancy?
Post by: Little Joe on December 07, 2016, 05:38:20 AM
I had put Clancy out of mind and not thought of him in at least a decade.

Thanks for nothing...
WTF?
Title: Re: Is Presdient-Elect Trump channeling Tom Clancy?
Post by: bflynn on December 07, 2016, 06:11:07 AM
WTF?

Don't Have a good opinion of him these days. He started out writing some good stuff but somewhere he took a bad turn and got really full of himself. 
Title: Re: Is Presdient-Elect Trump channeling Tom Clancy?
Post by: Little Joe on December 07, 2016, 06:33:34 AM
Don't Have a good opinion of him these days. He started out writing some good stuff but somewhere he took a bad turn and got really full of himself.
You do know that he died a few years ago don't you?  Much of his later work was actually a collaboration with other authors.  That was when I noticed the quality and substance of his novels going down.  But when he was in his prime, he was prescient.
Title: Re: Is Presdient-Elect Trump channeling Tom Clancy?
Post by: bflynn on December 07, 2016, 11:01:40 AM
You do know that he died a few years ago don't you?  Much of his later work was actually a collaboration with other authors.  That was when I noticed the quality and substance of his novels going down.  But when he was in his prime, he was prescient.

Sure, he passed away a while ago, I suppose I phrased that a little funny.  What he did when he started was ok.  But then he got really full of himself and fancied himself an expert on things that he had no experience with. 
Title: Re: Is Presdient-Elect Trump channeling Tom Clancy?
Post by: Anthony on December 07, 2016, 11:06:31 AM
Sure, he passed away a while ago, I suppose I phrased that a little funny.  What he did when he started was ok.  But then he got really full of himself and fancied himself an expert on things that he had no experience with.

I read "Red Storm Rising", "The Hunt for Red October" and "Sum of All Fears" and enjoyed them.  That was it for my Clancy reading, and I agree that he did get a little weird with success.  Prior to his being an "expert" in all things military, and intelligence, I think he was an insurance salesman. 
Title: Re: Is Presdient-Elect Trump channeling Tom Clancy?
Post by: Gary on December 07, 2016, 02:16:15 PM
I read "Red Storm Rising", "The Hunt for Red October" and "Sum of All Fears" and enjoyed them.  That was it for my Clancy reading, and I agree that he did get a little weird with success.  Prior to his being an "expert" in all things military, and intelligence, I think he was an insurance salesman.

Loved "The Hunt for Red October" - thought it was his best.  "Red Storm Rising" and "Sum of ALL fears" weren't bad.....
Title: Re: Is Presdient-Elect Trump channeling Tom Clancy?
Post by: MarkZ on December 09, 2016, 09:31:21 AM
I've read most of his original Jack Ryan/John Clark series. Great books.


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Title: Re: Is Presdient-Elect Trump channeling Tom Clancy?
Post by: asechrest on December 11, 2016, 09:27:50 AM
Trump is channeling someone, but it doesn't seem like Clancy.

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“You know, I'm, like, a smart person. I don't have to be told the same thing in the same words every single day for the next eight years. Could be eight years — but eight years. I don't need that,” Trump said. “But I do say, ‘If something should change, let us know.’”

[Edit] That's Trump, on how he doesn't need a daily intelligence briefing.
Title: Re: Is Presdient-Elect Trump channeling Tom Clancy?
Post by: Lucifer on December 11, 2016, 10:07:11 AM
Trump is channeling someone, but it doesn't seem like Clancy.

[Edit] That's Trump, on how he doesn't need a daily intelligence briefing.

Title: Re: Is Presdient-Elect Trump channeling Tom Clancy?
Post by: Anthony on December 11, 2016, 10:10:46 AM
[Edit] That's Trump, on how he doesn't need a daily intelligence briefing.

Well, Hillary doesn't need an intelligence briefing.  That's for sure.  lol!
Title: Re: Is Presdient-Elect Trump channeling Tom Clancy?
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on December 11, 2016, 11:34:34 AM
So was it all just fake news that O skipped intel briefings often?
Title: Re: Is Presdient-Elect Trump channeling Tom Clancy?
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on December 11, 2016, 11:44:20 AM
Well, Hillary doesn't need an intelligence briefing.  That's for sure.  lol!
Perhaps she is still getting the briefings. What with the recount and the electoral vote still pending!   ::)
Title: Re: Is Presdient-Elect Trump channeling Tom Clancy?
Post by: Mase on December 11, 2016, 12:04:58 PM
Perhaps she is still getting the briefings. What with the recount and the electoral vote still pending!   ::)

Does she get them by email?
Title: Re: Is Presdient-Elect Trump channeling Tom Clancy?
Post by: asechrest on December 11, 2016, 01:21:57 PM
So was it all just fake news that O skipped intel briefings often?

Yes, but the more interesting part is that Trump feels compelled to tell us all that he's smart.
Title: Re: Is Presdient-Elect Trump channeling Tom Clancy?
Post by: Little Joe on December 11, 2016, 06:16:37 PM
Yes, but the more interesting part is that Trump feels compelled to tell us all that he's smart.
So what's the problem with that?
Do you think the MSM is going to report that?
Title: Re: Is Presdient-Elect Trump channeling Tom Clancy?
Post by: Number7 on December 12, 2016, 10:09:36 AM
Yes, but the more interesting part is that Trump feels compelled to tell us all that he's smart.

And the fake news liberal media are sucking all the oxygen out of the room calling him stupid.
I'd rather have him in charge than the traitor Obama.
Title: Re: Is Presdient-Elect Trump channeling Tom Clancy?
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on December 13, 2016, 05:54:03 PM
http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2016/12/who-needs-a-daily-intelligence-briefing.php


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So has Obama gotten a daily intelligence briefing for the last eight years? No. The Associated Press and Comedy Central may have forgotten, but in the middle of his administration, Obama was criticized for generally forgoing a daily intelligence briefing. The Washington Free Beacon headlined: “Obama Skipped 62.5 Percent of Intelligence Briefings this Year,” based on a report by the Government Accountability Institute.

It takes a lot of nerve for President Obama to go on Comedy Central to attack Donald Trump for proposing to do the same thing that Obama did himself. But then, chutzpah has always been one of Obama’s defining characteristics.
Title: Re: Is Presdient-Elect Trump channeling Tom Clancy?
Post by: Number7 on December 14, 2016, 09:06:18 AM
The funny thing about progressives is that they give themselves a pass for hypocrisy AND demand that everyone else do so or risk being called racist. Hypcrisy really is the only family value of the progressive left.