PILOT SPIN
Spin Zone => Spin Zone => Topic started by: Bob Noel on December 15, 2016, 10:01:16 AM
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Looking at population numbers for 2012 and 2015 (from the Census Bureau, 2016 numbers aren't complete yet) and looking at the number of votes in 2012 and 2016:
Trump received 2 million more votes than Romney did
hillary received fewer votes than Obama did
In 2015, there were 10,000,000 more citizens of voting age than in 2012. With a significant increase in the number of people eligible to vote, you would expect the democrats to get more votes than the previous election.
All the liberals yapping about "winning the popular vote" is pure crap.
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HRC received more cast votes than DT but she didn't win the popular vote. Really. Next you'll say Donald Trump won the popular vote based on the fact that your grandmother voted for him and she always votes for the most popular candidate in every election since Roosevelt. Proof positive, I concede to your logic.
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That sound you might have heard was the point sailing waaaaaaaaay over your head.
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HRC received more cast votes than DT but she didn't win the popular vote. Really. Next you'll say Donald Trump won the popular vote based on the fact that your grandmother voted for him and she always votes for the most popular candidate in every election since Roosevelt. Proof positive, I concede to your logic.
Thank the brainwashed in NYC, and L.A. metro areas. Elsewhere she got squat. Too bad for you the popular vote is meaningless. Trump won 3,084, of 3,141 counties while Hillary won 57.
We are NOT a Democracy, we are a Representative CONSTITUTIONAL republic. Does your community college offer a Civics class? :)
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Thank the brainwashed in NYC, and L.A. metro areas. Elsewhere she got squat. Too bad for you the popular vote is meaningless. Trump won 3,084, of 3,141 counties while Hillary won 57.
We are NOT a Democracy, we are a Representative CONSTITUTIONAL republic. Does your community college offer a Civics class? :)
Sorry, what is this Constitution of which you speak? Does it start out, We, the counties of the United States...?
I'm sure one demographic that you forgot to mention was white male children less than 5 years of age were overwhelmingly in support of Trump. Also cars with political bumper stickers indicated people were overwhelmingly in support of Trump. Proof positive he won the popular vote.
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HRC received more cast votes than DT but she didn't win the popular vote. Really. Next you'll say Donald Trump won the popular vote based on the fact that your grandmother voted for him and she always votes for the most popular candidate in every election since Roosevelt. Proof positive, I concede to your logic.
The "popular vote" taken on a national scale is 100% without merit.
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Sorry, what is this Constitution of which you speak? Does it start out, We, the counties of the United States...?
I'm sure one demographic that you forgot to mention was white male children less than 5 years of age were overwhelmingly in support of Trump. Also cars with political bumper stickers indicated people were overwhelmingly in support of Trump. Proof positive he won the popular vote.
Structurally, the US is a nation of STATES, not individuals.
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The "popular vote" taken on a national scale is 100% without merit.
It isn't without merit, it is just irrelevant with regard to a presidential election.
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The "popular vote" taken on a national scale is 100% without merit.
It's a data point, nothing else. To say it is 100% without merit is an opinion and makes no sense since you don't say for what purpose you're using the data point. Ergo, your statement is 100% without merit.
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It isn't without merit, it is just irrelevant with regard to a presidential election.
Thanks for completing my sentence. :D
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It's a data pointless, nothing else.
So there!
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So there!
This article adds another "so there!"
http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2016/12/the_myth_of_hillarys_popular_vote_victory.html
Maybe we can now get back to the really meaningful topic of the Russians! Move along! ;D ;D ;D
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Looking at population numbers for 2012 and 2015 (from the Census Bureau, 2016 numbers aren't complete yet) and looking at the number of votes in 2012 and 2016:
Trump received 2 million more votes than Romney did
hillary received fewer votes than Obama did
In 2015, there were 10,000,000 more citizens of voting age than in 2012. With a significant increase in the number of people eligible to vote, you would expect the democrats to get more votes than the previous election.
All the liberals yapping about "winning the popular vote" is pure crap.
So what you're saying is, vote fraud doesn't exist! ;D
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It isn't without merit, it is just irrelevant with regard to a presidential election.
Now that's an intelligent statement we can discuss. It's not totally irrelevant because it sheds some light on public opinion but it is irrelevant in the context of winning or losing a Presidential election.
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So what you're saying is, vote fraud doesn't exist! ;D
To Republicans the only vote fraud are votes with D checked regardless of who cast them. If Russia hacked into computerized voting machines and checked R on ballots--they'd look the other way and rationalize it as merely cancelling out all those dead D voters or illegal immigrant ballots.
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Witmo if your going to keep acting like a 2 year old then go back in to your time out chair.
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Witmo if your going to keep acting like a 2 year old then go back in to your time out chair.
Ok dad.
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Come on folks, go easy on Witmo, most of the other liberals who came here when they thought Hillary was a shoe in are hiding in their safe space with their tails between their legs. At least Witmo has some balls to come out and argue his points.
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Come on folks, go easy on Witmo, most of the other liberals who came here when they thought Hillary was a shoe in are hiding in their safe space with their tails between their legs. At least Witmo has some balls to come out and argue his points.
True.
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:)
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That map makes no sense. Why aren't Wisconsin and Michigan Red? What does gold and green mean?
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That map makes no sense. Why aren't Wisconsin and Michigan Red? What does gold and green mean?
Did you read the text underneath the first map?
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Did you read the text underneath the first map?
Yes. It still looks like a silly exercise.
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Both photos were for laughs!
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I'm laughing. ;D
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That map makes no sense. Why aren't Wisconsin and Michigan Red? What does gold and green mean?
Bigger question is who approved of designating Red for non-Commie states and Blue for Commie states? The Commies?
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Bigger question is who approved of designating Red for non-Commie states and Blue for Commie states? The Commies?
If you can believe WIKIPEDIA (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_states_and_blue_states)
"The choice of colors reverses a long-standing convention of political colors whereby red symbols (such as the Red Flag or Red Star) are associated with left-wing politics, and right-wing movements often choose blue as a contrasting color.[3] Indeed, until the 1980s, Republicans were often represented by blue and Democrats by red. The current terminology of "red states" and "blue states" came into use in the United States presidential election of 2000 on an episode of the Today show on October 30, 2000. According to The Washington Post, the terms were coined by journalist Tim Russert, during his televised coverage of the 2000 presidential election.[4] That was not the first election during which the news media used colored maps to depict voter preferences in the various states, but it was the first time a standard color scheme took hold; the colors were often reversed or different colors used before the 2000 election."
Despite this, I miss Tim Russert. He was a real journalist.
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Well someone decided that using red for left leaning states would be looked upon by the left as disparaging, so they swapped it.
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Well someone decided that using red for left leaning states would be looked upon by the left as disparaging, so they swapped it.
From what I read Tim Russert coined those terms, and while a stand up guy, and one of the last "true" journalists, he was an admitted leftist.