PILOT SPIN
Spin Zone => Spin Zone => Topic started by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on December 15, 2016, 01:52:52 PM
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I wonder if any pools are going on what the next "reason" will be that HRC lost.
Stupid, irredeemable, deplorable voters
Electoral college
Faulty counts in WI and PA
White men
Fox News on in every bar
Fake news
Racists
Abortionphobes
Homophobes
Islamaphobes
Russians
Maybe they're done! :)
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Strange that they haven't thought of a corrupt, unlikable, horrible candidate with a stale discredited agenda. Occam's razor.
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We are seeing what the media has become under the Obama Admin. Obama and his people could selectively decide what laws to enforce, and by Executive Order what regulations they wanted, meanwhile instructing the IRS, DOJ, EPA etc to go after political enemies. Therefore, anything goes, right?
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I forgot to list James Comey and Julian Assange!
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When a party in power governs like a third world junta, you get third world outcomes.
It was no accident that the far left last eight years demonizing personal achievement and success. Those things are incompatible with totalitarian, fascism.
Now we have the all out assault on masculinity, elevating pajama boy and helplessness above hard work and self reliance. those things play into teh hands of a ruling party that wishes to remain in power.
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When a party in power governs like a third world junta, you get third world outcomes.
It was no accident that the far left last eight years demonizing personal achievement and success. Those things are incompatible with totalitarian, fascism.
Now we have the all out assault on masculinity, elevating pajama boy and helplessness above hard work and self reliance. those things play into teh hands of a ruling party that wishes to remain in power.
The party in power always wants to remain so. Part and parcel of the system.
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The party in power always wants to remain so. Part and parcel of the system.
But, they shouldn't do illegal, unethical, nor immoral things in order to stay in power. Did the Republicans pull all this crap in conjunction with a complicit media when McCain, and Romney lost to Obama? Bush II was in power, yet when Obama won, and McCain lost he cooperated to the fullest extent. Even Obama admits that.
Recounts, media deflection, and accusations about the Russians? All Bullsh*t. Every day, I check MSN, Yahoo News, Google, CNN, MSNBC, ABC, NBC, CBS, and every day I typically see TRUMP BASHING, and he isn't even in office yet.
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What's next?
Because Trump was a birther. (no kidding, this one is being floated on BSNBC now)
Insider trading (on HuffPo)
It was China.
climate change
Caused by a horrible internet video
Bush's fault
Anything to avoid the harsh truth that they screwed up. They took the union vote for granted at the same time that they have been screwing the unions for decades on jobs. It wasn't much, but about 700,000 people in WI, MI and PA heard Trump say "jobs, jobs, jobs" and figured "what the heck, let's give the business guy a chance". If not for that single dynamic, the polls would have fallen pretty much the way it was expected - Trump would have lost NH and NV, Hillary would have won, and Republicans sitting at home trying to hold on to avoid losing more. The only surprises were the rust belt.
I think the truth is that Trump won because of union defectors. But don't look for the Lefist propaganda machine to admit that any time soon.
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Here's what's next...
https://www.change.org/p/nancy-pelosi-postpone-electoral-college-vote-and-inauguration-pending-investigation
Given the news that Russia meddled in our American election, whether or not with the express purpose of electing Trump, that affects the validity of the election! I am hoping we can nullify the election results, and postpone the Electoral College vote and inauguration until Congress can act upon determining a valid President-elect.
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Here's what's next...
https://www.change.org/p/nancy-pelosi-postpone-electoral-college-vote-and-inauguration-pending-investigation
Right on cue!
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Wow, the Democrats are now advocating a full blown Coup d'état. This is Banana Republic stuff, totally in line with the Obama Admin's past eight years. If you can't win legally, make up stuff, and see what sticks. This is really a new low for the Democrats. I hope a coalition of Dems realizes this is ridiculous, and calls for their party to cease and desist, but I am not holding my breath.
I noticed the comments calling for an investigation, and postponement of the electoral college vote so Hillary can be installed are mostly from bubble headed, brainwashed WOMEN.
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Maybe Obama should just nullify the constitution, dissolve congress and declare himself "President for Life"............ ::)
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Here's what's next...
https://www.change.org/p/nancy-pelosi-postpone-electoral-college-vote-and-inauguration-pending-investigation
Maybe this is why Trump has been so busy setting up his administration, meeting with industry, and holding thank-you rallies, establishing that he will be president and will be a person of action.
The Dems could hold up finality for years, always coming up with some new reason the election wasn't valid, not stopping until they get what THEY think is a "valid president-elect."
Keep exposing your seamy underbellies, Dems.
I will rest easier after Monday.
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I will rest easier after Monday.
After Monday there will be calls to nullify the EC because those cunning Russians (or Chinese, or North Koreans, or....) persuaded the DNC to nominate and run a tired old sick corrupt woman for President.
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Maybe this is why Trump has been so busy setting up his administration, meeting with industry, and holding thank-you rallies, establishing that he will be president and will be a person of action.
I think that is just how Trump is wired. He can't sit still. For all his faults he is a doer, not just a talker. Obama, Hillary, and Dems are great at talking in broad, non-specific, utopian concepts, not real nuts, and bolts actions that get positive RESULTS.
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After Monday there will be calls to nullify the EC because those cunning Russians (or Chinese, or North Koreans, or....) persuaded the DNC to nominate and run a tired old sick corrupt woman for President.
You are saying I can never rest easy. Damn Dems.
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You are saying I can never rest easy. Damn Dems.
Not for the next 4 years, get use to it.
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They won't be happy until the election is held again. That would be the perfect opportunity (legitimacy and accuracy being a goal we all share, right?) to firm up the lax voter ID environment with new, pre-reelection laws aimed at making sure no one votes who shouldn't and no one votes more than once.
SURELY THE DEMS KNOW HOW THAT WOULD TURN OUT!!!!
So why push it so hard? That's where their current effort would logically end up.
On the other hand, we do need such laws . . .
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No votes were hacked in this election. The FBI and NSA seem to be at odds with the CIA as to whether the Russians had anything to do with anything. We had all of the Podesta emails courtesy of Podesta being an idiot and answering a phishing email. Julian Assange has stated that one of his associates met a DNC operative to recieve the DNC emails. The CIA refuses to appear in front of Congress.
Just WTF is there to review?
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No votes were hacked in this election. The FBI and NSA seem to be at odds with the CIA as to whether the Russians had anything to do with anything. We had all of the Podesta emails courtesy of Podesta being an idiot and answering a phishing email. Julian Assange has stated that one of his associates met a DNC operative to recieve the DNC emails. The CIA refuses to appear in front of Congress.
Just WTF is there to review?
But...but...but.....Hillary got more votes!
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No votes were hacked in this election. The FBI and NSA seem to be at odds with the CIA as to whether the Russians had anything to do with anything. We had all of the Podesta emails courtesy of Podesta being an idiot and answering a phishing email. Julian Assange has stated that one of his associates met a DNC operative to recieve the DNC emails. The CIA refuses to appear in front of Congress.
Just WTF is there to review?
I ask what exactly was hacked? Individual voting machines? How would that work? Someone very powerful, maybe Soros, or someone like him, or a group of powerful people is pulling strings in the CIA. This is scarier than if the Russians did somehow infiltrate the election.
The Clinton/Dem donors are demanding a Post Mortem on exactly why Hillary lost, and Russia is not popping up as a reason.
NEW YORK — When Hillary Clinton and Tim Kaine greet the very top fundraisers and donors to their failed campaign at New York’s Plaza Hotel on Thursday evening, many of them will have one question in mind: Where’s the autopsy?
The call for a deep and detailed accounting of how Clinton lost a race that she and her donors were absolutely certain she’d win didn’t begin immediately after the election — there was too much shock over her defeat by Donald Trump, and overwhelming grief. Her initial conference call with top backers, which came just days after the outcome, focused primarily on FBI Director Jim Comey’s late campaign-season intervention.
But in the weeks since, the wealthy Democrats who helped pump over $1 billion into Clinton’s losing effort have been urging their local finance staffers, state party officials, and campaign aides to provide a more thorough explanation of what went wrong. With no dispassionate, centralized analysis of how Clinton failed so spectacularly, they insist, how can they be expected to keep contributing to the party?
The Democrat donors gave Hillary $1 BILLION dollars to spend on her campaign, and they expected a return on their investment in INFLUENCE in public policy (laws, and regs, etc) that would benefit them. They lost their bet, and are now furious.
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/12/hillary-clinton-campaign-donors-post-mortem-232715
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But...but...but.....Hillary got more votes!
I see that a lot from people in the Comment Section below many progressive leaning articles on why Hillary lost, and how unfair it was because she won the popular vote solely because of NYC, and L.A. metro areas. These people do not understand how our country works, not do the understand we a NOT a Democracy, but a Representative Constitutional Republic.
Mob rule does not work, and that is what we would have without the EC. NYC, and L.A. would run the country with policies that the rest of the country is vehemently against.
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That is so funny. But the donors all knew she was under investigation. And unhealthy. And unappealing. Why didn't they say no, get me a better candidate or no $$$$?
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I think that is just how Trump is wired. He can't sit still. For all his faults he is a doer, not just a talker. Obama, Hillary, and Dems are great at talking in broad, non-specific, utopian concepts, not real nuts, and bolts actions that get positive RESULTS.
It seems to me that Trump has only talked in broad, non-specific, not real nuts and bolts actions promising "a Great America." I'm willing to see what that means but that doesn't mean I have to sit by and read BS from people that claim he's given us his plan in any way shape or form other than "trust me, I'm brilliant and have a great plan." You may not like the Dem's plan as espoused by HRC but at least she published one.
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I see that a lot from people in the Comment Section below many progressive leaning articles on why Hillary lost, and how unfair it was because she won the popular vote solely because of NYC, and L.A. metro areas. These people do not understand how our country works, not do the understand we a NOT a Democracy, but a Representative Constitutional Republic.
Mob rule does not work, and that is what we would have without the EC. NYC, and L.A. would run the country with policies that the rest of the country is vehemently against.
Do you really believe Trump wouldn't have declared it was a rigged election if HRC had won? Oh, but then again I forget that the only way she could have won was if the election was rigged because everyone predicted Trump to win in a landslide in your world. Got it.
Why do we even have a popular vote for President or the Senate? Wasn't too long ago that Senators were appointed, why not go back to the old way since our founding fathers wanted it that way?
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It seems to me that Trump has only talked in broad, non-specific, not real nuts and bolts actions promising "a Great America." I'm willing to see what that means but that doesn't mean I have to sit by and read BS from people that claim he's given us his plan in any way shape or form other than "trust me, I'm brilliant and have a great plan." You may not like the Dem's plan as espoused by HRC but at least she published one.
Oh Bullshit! The crap she posted was vague crap. Same old Democrat Talking Points with no substance.
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Why do we even have a popular vote for President or the Senate? Wasn't too long ago that Senators were appointed, why not go back to the old way since our founding fathers wanted it that way?
Repeal the 17th amendment? Sure, absolutely! Need a constitutional convention first.
Our constitution doesn't have any provisions for a popular vote for president, never has. The popular vote for president is at the state level, not federal. Each state could, if they wanted, abolish the popular vote for President.
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Why do we even have a popular vote for President or the Senate? Wasn't too long ago that Senators were appointed, why not go back to the old way since our founding fathers wanted it that way?
Just as soon as the electoral college became inconvenient for the lying left, the calls to outlaw it were inevitable.
One thing about your posts I notice is the never ending left wing talking points. It's about as dependable as night following day.
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I ask what exactly was hacked?
Emails. Nothing else.
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It seems to me that Trump has only talked in broad, non-specific, not real nuts and bolts actions promising "a Great America."
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You may not like the Dem's plan as espoused by HRC but at least she published one.
With respect, you flat out have not tried to find out what Trump's plans are. Here, I've made it easy. All you have to do is open your mind and read what he is planning. At least then you will be informed rather than spouting that you hate Trump but you have no idea what he plans to do.
https://www.donaldjtrump.com/policies/
https://www.donaldjtrump.com/press-releases/an-america-first-energy-plan
https://www.donaldjtrump.com/press-releases/fact-sheet-donald-j.-trumps-pro-growth-economic-policy-will-create-25-milli
https://assets.donaldjtrump.com/Childcare_Reform.pdf
https://assets.donaldjtrump.com/DJT_Radical_Islam_Speech.pdf
https://www.donaldjtrump.com/press-releases/fact-sheet-key-policies-proposed-in-mr.-trumps-military-preparedness-speech
https://assets.donaldjtrump.com/HCReformPaper.pdf
https://www.donaldjtrump.com/press-releases/unleashing-americamericas-prosperity-to-create-jobs-and-increase-wages
https://www.donaldjtrump.com/press-releases/donald-j.-trump-address-on-immigration
https://assets.donaldjtrump.com/DJT_DeclaringAmericanEconomicIndependence.pdf <--- I especially like this one. It IS the message that won him the election.
https://www.donaldjtrump.com/press-releases/fact-sheet-donald-j.-trumps-pro-growth-economic-policy-will-create-25-milli
https://www.donaldjtrump.com/policies/veterans-affairs-reform/
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Also:
https://www.donaldjtrump.com/press-releases/donald-j.-trump-announces-a-plan-for-urban-renewal1
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That is a good start.