PILOT SPIN
Spin Zone => Spin Zone => Topic started by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on January 11, 2017, 01:04:45 PM
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Wow, just made a big pot of applesauce while watching Trump's first news conference. I am mightily impressed. Don't believe any mainstream claims about it unless you watch it yourself.
Strange euphoria setting in ... a president who loves America, is smart, listens, responds, actually works hard on our behalf. Picks highly qualified people, thinks Constitution is important. Wouldn't take a question from CNN because of the fake story they just got called out on.
Happy sigh for now. :)
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It was awesome, pissed on CNN.
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Wow, just made a big pot of applesauce while watching Trump's first news conference. I am mightily impressed. Don't believe any mainstream claims about it unless you watch it yourself.
Strange euphoria setting in ... a president who loves America, is smart, listens, responds, actually works hard on our behalf. Picks highly qualified people, thinks Constitution is important. Wouldn't take a question from CNN because of the fake story they just got called out on.
Happy sigh for now. :)
Awesome?? LOL!! Guess that is in the ear of the listener (read the transcript, didn't hear the conference). I understand the President-elect speaks figuratively, not literally, so I'll wait until the President-elect actually accomplishes the promises he makes. Can't say I learned anything new.
Do agree with the President-elect on one item. The "intelligence report" as published by BuzzFeed are a collection of unsubstantiated rumors, unverifiable "facts" and for the most part, unless proven.... garbage.
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NO QUESTION FOR YOU CNN.... FAKE NEWS!!
(paraphrased comedic gold)
It's going to be a great 8 years, I hope the secret service is up to the task because the moonbats are going to go nuts.
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The CNN reporter (Jim Acosta) just refused to take "no" for an answer, and continued to barge right ahead and try to ask his question (steamrollering the female reporter that Trump had called on to ask the next question -- but CNN will tell you that Trump is sexist). Acosta said that he should have the next question because Trump "attacked" CNN (though I don't recall that precedent the several times Obama directly attacked Fox News) -- but hearing that part of his question that he blurted out, his question had nothing to do with what Trump said about CNN -- meaning one thing had nothing to do with the other. He was just claiming a privilege to get his 15 seconds of fame. What an entitled, sanctimonious crybaby. I'm happy that Trump was having none of it -- "You ARE fake news."
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The "intelligence report" as published by BuzzFeed are a collection of unsubstantiated rumors, unverifiable "facts" and for the most part, unless proven.... garbage.
AKA, Fake News. After throwing such a fuss about it for the past two months, it's a wonder that Democrats gave it any play at all :o :o
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This is what Acosta tweeted after the press conference:
Jim Acosta
@Acosta
Fortunately ABC's Cecilia Vega asked my question about whether any Trump associates contacted Russians. Trump said no.
https://twitter.com/Acosta/status/819233642790715398
Its funny he should bring that up -- press pool reporters asking questions for each other.
EXCLUSIVE: Open mic captures press coordinating questions for Romney “no matter who he calls on we’re covered” (http://therightscoop.com/exclusive-open-mic-captures-press-coordinating-questions-for-romney-no-matter-who-he-calls-on-were-covered/) (Sept 12, 2012)
To a leftist, history always began yesterday. Its like a war on remembering what they did or said before right this instant.
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AKA, Fake News. After throwing such a fuss about it for the past two months, it's a wonder that Democrats gave it any play at all :o :o
Other than the intelligence agencies, I don't see that many people, of any political persuasion, signing on that the Buzzfeed documents are the gospel truth. As to the Buzzfeed documents being "fake news", dunno, those same intelligence agencies felt there was enough weight to them to brief the President and the President elect. That is real news, even if the documents themselves are garbage.
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Terrific is not the word I would use. Entertaining, sure.
But I don't watch a POTUS media event to be entertained. Meet the new America I guess.
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To a leftist, history always began yesterday. Its like a war on remembering what they did or said before right this instant.
How true.
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"No, I'm not gonna give you a question, YOU are fake news."
Mic.
Fucking.
Dropped.
They still very clearly don't get it and continue to underestimate him at their peril.
And - tons of information in the presser as well about his business interests (lady lawyer was fantastic), repeal and replace, cyber security, repatriation taxation for companies offshoring jobs and reimporting goods, the wall etc. Of course some folks will not get past how Trump treated CNN (ignoring what CNN and Buzzfeed had just done to him overnight) and that is fine, people are paying attention and this is exactly what he was elected for.
I am almost hoping that he skips a press secretary and does these on his own every few weeks - would be great.
'Gimp
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Other than the intelligence agencies, I don't see that many people, of any political persuasion, signing on that the Buzzfeed documents are the gospel truth. As to the Buzzfeed documents being "fake news", dunno, those same intelligence agencies felt there was enough weight to them to brief the President and the President elect. That is real news, even if the documents themselves are garbage.
Gary, the documents were given to Obama and Trump as an example of disinformation to which Trump would be subject.
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Strange euphoria setting in ... a president who loves America, is smart, listens, responds, actually works hard on our behalf. Picks highly qualified people, thinks Constitution is important.
I've got a "strange euphoria" this January. Complete opposite of my normal post-holiday depression. Maybe it's due to big, sunny, warm south Texas instead of cold, grey Appalachia. Maybe it's that our finances are finally turning around. Maybe it's the Grandbaby. Nah. It's none of that. ;D
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Gary, the documents were given to Obama and Trump as an example of disinformation to which Trump would be subject.
Yes, that is true.
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I've got a "strange euphoria" this January. Complete opposite of my normal post-holiday depression. Maybe it's due to big, sunny, warm south Texas instead of cold, grey Appalachia. Maybe it's that our finances are finally turning around. Maybe it's the Grandbaby. Nah. It's none of that. ;D
We could start a band ... the Strange Euphorics! 8)
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We could start a band ... the Strange Euphorics! 8)
How about the Deplorable Euphorics? ;)
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I enjoyed it. I especially liked the table piled high with "documents" that DJT says were papers he had to sign to ensure his vast business empire didn't pose a conflict of interest. Of course he refused to let anyone actually read any of the papers piled high on the table. After all, like his tax returns, people don't care to see details of his business empire. Trust him when he tells us his sons won't talk to him for eight years about his businesses. Trust him, he'll make America great again, just don't look behind the curtain or expect what he says to be what he meant. Oh, and don't ask any questions if he doesn't like your news organization. Save your questions for the impeachment hearings.
I got a real kick out of learning that Jimmy Carter sold his peanut farm when he became President to avoid any chance of a conflict of interest. What a rube!
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I got a real kick out of learning that Jimmy Carter sold his peanut farm when he became President to avoid any chance of a conflict of interest. What a rube!
Considering Carter was only recently dethroned as "Worst Post-War President" and now stands to lose his status as "Worst Living Ex-President", you should be more polite to him.
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I wish all this attention being focused on Trump's potential conflict of interest would be turned on Congressional members. Talk about a cesspool of graft.
I've owned 2 businesses that were successful in my life. Being forced to divest of those three businesses in a short, fixed timeframe would have been disastrous, they were no where near the value of what Trump owns. I'm comfortable with Trump removing himself from managing his companies without divesting.
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Considering Carter was only recently dethroned as "Worst Post-War President" and now stands to lose his status as "Worst Living Ex-President", you should be more polite to him.
I'd say Presidential scholars don't have such a poor opinion of the Carter Presidency but then they are scholars and we know how biased and liberal all scholars must be.
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I wish all this attention being focused on Trump's potential conflict of interest would be turned on Congressional members. Talk about a cesspool of graft.
I've owned 2 businesses that were successful in my life. Being forced to divest of those three businesses in a short, fixed timeframe would have been disastrous, they were no where near the value of what Trump owns. I'm comfortable with Trump removing himself from managing his companies without divesting.
Granted, Congress is a cesspool of graft but the President can cause markets to crash or stocks to skyrocket by a poorly (or craftily) worded tweet. A Congressman has no where near the impact a sitting President has. Without knowing what his financial particulars are at the onset of his Presidency, how will we know if he's profited outrageously by his twitter account activity during his Presidency? Oh, I forget, we need to trust him. He would never stiff the country like he has his business associates or subcontractors.
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investors who react to anyone's tweets are idiots and deserve the risk of losing money.
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investors who react to anyone's tweets are idiots and deserve the risk of losing money.
It's not a question of idiots losing money; it's a question of a President who can potentially profit from idiots losing money triggered by his actions. Without full disclosure and divestiture, every action of a President is potentially a conflict of interest. Jimmy Carter had a frickin peanut farm and the opposition party had to waste tax dollars to try and pin some sort of unethical campaign financial shenanagins to it. Trump's finances are a gold mine of potential conflict of interest charges and he hasn't even taken office yet. I would venture to say that many successful business people are loathe to run for high office because they understand what they would ethically be required to do in order to avoid even the appearance of a conflict of interest. President-elect Trump, however, thinks we should just trust him because we all know he is a man of his word...
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I would venture to say that many successful business people are loathe to run for high office because they understand what they would ethically be required to do in order to avoid even the appearance of a conflict of interest.
You are right.
And we wonder why we have such a hard time finding good candidates for political office.
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Why even bother trying to avoid an appearance of conflict of interest? The opposition will just make s*** up.
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Why even bother trying to avoid an appearance of conflict of interest? The opposition will just make s*** up.
^^ This I think more than anything explains his approach, he knows they are going to go after with him with every made up piece of fake news they can, why do more than that.
'Gimp
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I no longer care if any politician is ethical or not, or has a conflict of interest and profits somehow "unfairly" from his position, as long as he fixes the economy to profit ME. All I care about now is maximizing my old age comfort, or rather, minimizing the Hell. If I can climb up one more rung here in the middle class, so I can afford a slightly better retirement situation, what do I care if Trump has filthy billions or filthy billions plus X? He's welcome to it, if he can improve MY situation. It's time for me to be selfish. I've spent my whole life being moral and ethical, and caring about other people, and caring whether a politician I vote for is honest and upright. I may be slow but I do eventually learn, and I've finally figured it out: NONE OF THEM ARE. So I'm done giving a damn. The alternative to Trump was a piece of shit so deeply corrupt with a whole entourage of corrupt friends that have already done untold damage to the country, my wallet and my happiness. If Trump too is a corrupt piece of shit, fine. He's an amateur, he can't begin to equal the damage done by the Clintons, Obama and the Democrats.
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You no longer care now that Hillary Clinton's conflicts of interest don't make headlines?
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I no longer care if any politician is ethical or not, or has a conflict of interest and profits somehow "unfairly" from his position, as long as he fixes the economy to profit ME. All I care about now is maximizing my old age comfort, or rather, minimizing the Hell. If I can climb up one more rung here in the middle class, so I can afford a slightly better retirement situation, what do I care if Trump has filthy billions or filthy billions plus X? He's welcome to it, if he can improve MY situation. It's time for me to be selfish. I've spent my whole life being moral and ethical, and caring about other people, and caring whether a politician I vote for is honest and upright. I may be slow but I do eventually learn, and I've finally figured it out: NONE OF THEM ARE. So I'm done giving a damn. The alternative to Trump was a piece of shit so deeply corrupt with a whole entourage of corrupt friends that have already done untold damage to the country, my wallet and my happiness. If Trump too is a corrupt piece of shit, fine. He's an amateur, he can't begin to equal the damage done by the Clintons, Obama and the Democrats.
I suspect that many share your hopes and aspirations.
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You no longer care now that Hillary Clinton's conflicts of interest don't make headlines?
Uh, yeah.
Do you have a problem with that?
But you see, the thing is, while I agree that HRC would make millions, I'm not so sure she would help the rest of us.
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Why even bother trying to avoid an appearance of conflict of interest? The opposition will just make s*** up.
Suspect that with the President-elect, they won't have to make things up, just follow the Twitter feed and the money. The President-elect does have a particular ability to make enemies, not a good thing over time.
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... snip.. President-elect Trump, however, thinks we should just trust him because we all know he is a man of his word...
I was under the understanding that the President-elect spoke figuratively not literally and we should judge him by what's in his heart, not what he says. Do you have the decoder ring? That would be most helpful.
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Uh, yeah.
Do you have a problem with that?
But you see, the thing is, while I agree that HRC would make millions, I'm not so sure she would help the rest of us.
I don't want help from HRC or Trump or any of them, I just want them to stay the F out of the way.
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I was under the understanding that the President-elect spoke figuratively not literally and we should judge him by what's in his heart, not what he says. Do you have the decoder ring? That would be most helpful.
No decoder ring, just a little common sense and a grown up intellect.
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But you see, the thing is, while I agree that HRC would make millions, I'm not so sure she would help the rest of us.
This is the difference.
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I don't want help from HRC or Trump or any of them, I just want them to stay the F out of the way.
Yes. This is the kind of "help" I'm hoping for from Trump.
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Granted, Congress is a cesspool of graft but the President can cause markets to crash or stocks to skyrocket by a poorly (or craftily) worded tweet.
Oh really? Which one of Trump's tweets has made the market respond (up or down) as much as the simple fact of his defeating Hillary Clinton on Nov 8th? (In case you care to reference some actual, verifiable facts in your answer, the DJI is +1580.14 to date from its close on Nov 8, 2016; +8.62% in 66 days for an annualized rate of return of 47.7%. I'm not about to claim that this rally can continue indefinitely; but I point it out for reference to the underlying question, which is again, which one of Trump's tweets moved the market even half that much?
[We'll wait while you craft your answer (https://youtu.be/73tGe3JE5IU) -- after you do, please wash your hands before typing.]
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Granted, Congress is a cesspool of graft but the President can cause markets to crash or stocks to skyrocket by a poorly (or craftily) worded tweet. A Congressman has no where near the impact a sitting President has. Without knowing what his financial particulars are at the onset of his Presidency, how will we know if he's profited outrageously by his twitter account activity during his Presidency? Oh, I forget, we need to trust him. He would never stiff the country like he has his business associates or subcontractors.
If you like your doctor you can keep your doctor. Period.
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I no longer care if any politician is ethical or not, or has a conflict of interest and profits somehow "unfairly" from his position, as long as he fixes the economy to profit ME. All I care about now is maximizing my old age comfort, or rather, minimizing the Hell. If I can climb up one more rung here in the middle class, so I can afford a slightly better retirement situation, what do I care if Trump has filthy billions or filthy billions plus X? He's welcome to it, if he can improve MY situation. It's time for me to be selfish. I've spent my whole life being moral and ethical, and caring about other people, and caring whether a politician I vote for is honest and upright. I may be slow but I do eventually learn, and I've finally figured it out: NONE OF THEM ARE. So I'm done giving a damn. The alternative to Trump was a piece of shit so deeply corrupt with a whole entourage of corrupt friends that have already done untold damage to the country, my wallet and my happiness. If Trump too is a corrupt piece of shit, fine. He's an amateur, he can't begin to equal the damage done by the Clintons, Obama and the Democrats.
Well said.
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Uh, yeah.
Do you have a problem with that?
But you see, the thing is, while I agree that HRC would make millions, I'm not so sure she would help the rest of us.
Yes.
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Yes.
I do as well.
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No decoder ring, just a little common sense and a grown up intellect.
There is no such thing when discussing a progressive liberal democrat. ANYTHING is enough to make a crisis out of as long as it can be twisted to pretend it's the Republicans fault.
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There is no such thing when discussing a progressive liberal democrat. ANYTHING is enough to make a crisis out of as long as it can be twisted to pretend it's the Republicans fault.
"You never want a serious crisis go to waste." - Rahm Emanuel (D) (https://youtu.be/1yeA_kHHLow), Mayor of Chicago (aka Murdertown, USA)
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I was under the understanding that the President-elect spoke figuratively not literally and we should judge him by what's in his heart, not what he says. Do you have the decoder ring? That would be most helpful.
That sound bite, while not too inaccurate, was created by a far left liberal pundit.