PILOT SPIN
Spin Zone => Spin Zone => Topic started by: asechrest on February 20, 2017, 03:36:39 PM
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Interesting.
Milo Yiannopoulos, the provocative conservative journalist who is often portrayed as a champion of the far right, is facing possible dismissal from his employer, Breitbart News, over comments he once made about underage sex, FOX Business has learned.
His possible dismissal could could come by the end of the day, sources from the conservative website told FOX Business. Earlier Monday, Yiannopoulos was disinvited to speak at a gathering of the Conservative Political Action Committee (CPAC) scheduled for this weekend.
http://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/2017/02/20/breitbart-news-may-boot-milo-yiannopoulos-over-sex-comments.html
Milo says (https://www.facebook.com/myiannopoulos/posts/851263248344905) the video is edited and out of context. I have not had a chance to watch it yet.
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Milo apparently was the victim of pedophilia, from what I can garner he thinks it was consensual, but it happened when he was 14, so it was not consensual, he was manipulated and abused. He doesn't get it. I don't buy he was advocating pedophilia it will be interesting to see how this shakes out.
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The fallout so far is that he was disinvited to CPAC and his book deal has been cancelled.
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Milo apparently was the victim of pedophilia, from what I can garner he thinks it was consensual, but it happened when he was 14, so it was not consensual, he was manipulated and abused. He doesn't get it. I don't buy he was advocating pedophilia it will be interesting to see how this shakes out.
When I was 15, I had sex with a woman in her upper '20s. I KNOW it was consensual. To this day, it was one of the greatest days of my life.
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As is ALWAYS the case when there is an effective and engaging communicator from a Conservative point of view, cue the vile sexual innuendo attack to take them out. The only thing missing from this latest tac-nuke is Gloria Allred with a baseball bat, a container of Vaseline and an anatomically correct doll.
No fair minded person who actually reads/listens to the discussion in question would believe Milo was advocating pedophilia, but those attacking him are not fair minded, and the ever linguini-spined conservatives, including my friend Matt Schlapp at ACU, just roll over and cave on command. No fair-minded person who is even remotely familiar with his story and his writing and his beliefs would believe Milo was advocating pedophelia, but the mere accusation of such a disgusting and abhorrent thing is enough to cost him CPAC, possibly a book deal, perhaps even his position at Breitbart.
What is disgusting is the deliberate misrepresentation of what he said, what is abhorrent is the deliberate ignoring of his actual, personal history on the subject, and the collapse of what should be a confident and resurgent conservative movement into a quivering bowl of jello at the first jab, bringing out the ever popular circular firing squad.
I swear, the DC Conservatives are suffering from some weird combination of battered-wife and Helsinki syndrome.
And I say this as a conservative Catholic who believes that homesexuality is an abnormal behavior that does have a significant pedophilia problem.
I am still a Milo fan and hope to see Matt Schlapp and CPAC change their mind, along with Milo's publisher and others.
There should be no place for the politics of personal destruction in our political discourse unless an actual crime has taken place or is truly being advocated - that is clearly not the case here IMO.
'Gimp
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Well said Gimp, I didn't watch the video and probably won't unless there is an uncut version around. It's funny the double standard. We had a rep here in Massholechusetts, Gerry Studds, who was molesting underaged pages in congress. Nothing happened to him, go figure.
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Interesting.
It's funny now that you find him interesting because it suits your needs. Seems very hypocritical to me, but not surprised.
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More recently from Milo on Facebook:
I am a gay man, and a child abuse victim.
I would like to restate my utter disgust at adults who sexually abuse minors. I am horrified by pedophilia and I have devoted large portions of my career as a journalist to exposing child abusers. I've outed three of them, in fact -- three more than most of my critics. And I've repeatedly expressed disgust at pedophilia in my feature and opinion writing. My professional record is very clear.
But I do understand that these videos, even though some of them are edited deceptively, paint a different picture.
I'm partly to blame. My own experiences as a victim led me to believe I could say anything I wanted to on this subject, no matter how outrageous. But I understand that my usual blend of British sarcasm, provocation and gallows humor might have come across as flippancy, a lack of care for other victims or, worse, "advocacy." I deeply regret that. People deal with things from their past in different ways.
As to some of the specific claims being made, sometimes things tumble out of your mouth on these long, late-night live-streams, when everyone is spit-balling, that are incompletely expressed or not what you intended. Nonetheless, I've reviewed the tapes that appeared last night in their proper full context and I don't believe they say what is being reported.
I do not advocate for illegal behavior. I explicitly say on the tapes that I think the current age of consent is "about right."
I do not believe sex with 13-year-olds is okay. When I mentioned the number 13, I was talking about the age I lost my own virginity.
I shouldn't have used the word "boy" -- which gay men often do to describe young men of consenting age -- instead of "young man." That was an error.
I am certainly guilty of imprecise language, which I regret.
Anyone who suggests I turn a blind eye to illegal activity or to the abuse of minors is unequivocally wrong. I am implacably opposed to the normalization of pedophilia and I will continue to report and speak accordingly.
Previous statement: https://www.facebook.com/myiannopoulos/posts/851263248344905
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I have not had a chance to watch it yet.
I have not had an incentive to watch it yet...
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When the firing squad assembles around pedophile Harry Reid call me.
Democrats have ZERO integrity on any subject.
This is just another in an endless list of examples.
Any republican that would fall for this type of smear campaign is an idiot and manipulated by the garbage populating the democrat party these days.
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It's funny now that you find him interesting because it suits your needs. Seems very hypocritical to me, but not surprised.
Why do you think I didn't find him interesting previously? He's quite a character, by design.
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More recently from Milo on Facebook:
I am a gay man, and a child abuse victim.
I would like to restate my utter disgust at adults who sexually abuse minors. I am horrified by pedophilia and I have devoted large portions of my career as a journalist to exposing child abusers. I've outed three of them, in fact -- three more than most of my critics. And I've repeatedly expressed disgust at pedophilia in my feature and opinion writing. My professional record is very clear.
But I do understand that these videos, even though some of them are edited deceptively, paint a different picture.
I'm partly to blame. My own experiences as a victim led me to believe I could say anything I wanted to on this subject, no matter how outrageous. But I understand that my usual blend of British sarcasm, provocation and gallows humor might have come across as flippancy, a lack of care for other victims or, worse, "advocacy." I deeply regret that. People deal with things from their past in different ways.
As to some of the specific claims being made, sometimes things tumble out of your mouth on these long, late-night live-streams, when everyone is spit-balling, that are incompletely expressed or not what you intended. Nonetheless, I've reviewed the tapes that appeared last night in their proper full context and I don't believe they say what is being reported.
I do not advocate for illegal behavior. I explicitly say on the tapes that I think the current age of consent is "about right."
I do not believe sex with 13-year-olds is okay. When I mentioned the number 13, I was talking about the age I lost my own virginity.
I shouldn't have used the word "boy" -- which gay men often do to describe young men of consenting age -- instead of "young man." That was an error.
I am certainly guilty of imprecise language, which I regret.
Anyone who suggests I turn a blind eye to illegal activity or to the abuse of minors is unequivocally wrong. I am implacably opposed to the normalization of pedophilia and I will continue to report and speak accordingly.
Previous statement: https://www.facebook.com/myiannopoulos/posts/851263248344905
The link to his Facebook post is in my OP. I gave both sides of the story.
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The link to his Facebook post is in my OP. I gave both sides of the story.
The Facebook post I quoted is different from yours, and is more recent.
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The Facebook post I quoted is different from yours, and is more recent.
You're right. Sorry.
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As is ALWAYS the case when there is an effective and engaging communicator from a Conservative point of view, cue the vile sexual innuendo attack to take them out. The only thing missing from this latest tac-nuke is Gloria Allred with a baseball bat, a container of Vaseline and an anatomically correct doll.
No fair minded person who actually reads/listens to the discussion in question would believe Milo was advocating pedophilia, but those attacking him are not fair minded, and the ever linguini-spined conservatives, including my friend Matt Schlapp at ACU, just roll over and cave on command. No fair-minded person who is even remotely familiar with his story and his writing and his beliefs would believe Milo was advocating pedophelia, but the mere accusation of such a disgusting and abhorrent thing is enough to cost him CPAC, possibly a book deal, perhaps even his position at Breitbart.
What is disgusting is the deliberate misrepresentation of what he said, what is abhorrent is the deliberate ignoring of his actual, personal history on the subject, and the collapse of what should be a confident and resurgent conservative movement into a quivering bowl of jello at the first jab, bringing out the ever popular circular firing squad.
I swear, the DC Conservatives are suffering from some weird combination of battered-wife and Helsinki syndrome.
And I say this as a conservative Catholic who believes that homesexuality is an abnormal behavior that does have a significant pedophilia problem.
I am still a Milo fan and hope to see Matt Schlapp and CPAC change their mind, along with Milo's publisher and others.
There should be no place for the politics of personal destruction in our political discourse unless an actual crime has taken place or is truly being advocated - that is clearly not the case here IMO.
'Gimp
Spot on. The problem that CPAC now has is that they are tainted with the invitation to begin with, so canceling Milo will earn them zero accolades with the left. Instead, they lost the opportunity to have Milo explain the truth, in a very very public forum, while showing the world that conservatism is not about who someone is, but what they believe.
Watch the narrative turn to "Conservative Homophobic Group Cancels Appearance by GLBTQ Activist."
I swear to God we are digging our own graves, and the leftists are handing us the shovels.
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Why doesn't he release the unedited versions of the tapes? That would clear things up, would it not? I agree that the words chosen could've been better and I also agree that this is likely taken out of context given the history of the left to edit things and release them. This will only serve to fuel the outrages on campuses throughout the nation as they'll now have another reason to ban him from speaking.
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Spot on. The problem that CPAC now has is that they are tainted with the invitation to begin with, so canceling Milo will earn them zero accolades with the left. Instead, they lost the opportunity to have Milo explain the truth, in a very very public forum, while showing the world that conservatism is not about who someone is, but what they believe.
Watch the narrative turn to "Conservative Homophobic Group Cancels Appearance by GLBTQ Activist."
I swear to God we are digging our own graves, and the leftists are handing us the shovels.
While I agree with that, CPAC is about conservative political activism. I suspect Milo was just barely invited in the first place, so when the character assassination started...continued...he became a distraction from their purpose.
Having forced myself to care enough to read both sides, I'm convinced that the media has screwed everyone by telling more lies, potentially in a libelous way.
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I haven't forced myself to read both sides, but I hope that if he has been libeled or slandered that he files suit.
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He's resigned from Breitbart.
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When I first read about all this my first thought was:
Milo who?
Maybe I don't get out enough.
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When I first read about all this my first thought was:
Milo who?
Maybe I don't get out enough.
Youtube, you'll either love what he says or hate it, no in between.
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Youtube, you'll either love what he says or hate it, no in between.
He is a flamboyant, openly Gay man that is conservative, and speaks his mind. He also can put his foot in his mouth which got him fired. If you look at Breitbart, Drudge, and maybe Fox News, you'd see stuff about him. Also, mainstream media (CNN, MSNBC, NBC, CBS, ABC, PBS, Huffpo, NYT, Washpo, etc) will have slanted articles to demonize him. They even go so far as call him a "Homophobe" while he is openly homosexual. Duh!
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When the stupid people of the far left decide a person is a threat to their monopoly on what is right, correct, PC, or whatever lies they think to tell, today, they make it their life mission to destroy them with lies, obfuscations and sheer, delusional, bullshit.
Milo is an excellent example. Rather than become a liability to everyone involved, he stepped away, which shows extraordinary integrity.
That is a behavior unknown to liberals.
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Milo is an excellent example. Rather than become a liability to everyone involved, he stepped away, which shows extraordinary integrity.
That is a behavior unknown to liberals.
Like Hillary stepped away from Benghazi, email scandals, pay for play with foreign enemies/Clinton Foundation........
:)