PILOT SPIN
Spin Zone => Spin Zone => Topic started by: Little Joe on March 12, 2017, 07:03:17 AM
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I get so sick of hearing and reading that. Last night my in-laws repeated that during a birthday party I was throwing for one of them.
From USELESS A Today:
President Trump turned his speech before a conservative convention into a full-throated attack on journalism Friday, saying some reporters make up unnamed sources for "fake news" and again describing them as "the enemy" of the American people.
"A few days ago I called the fake news the enemy of the people, and they are — they are the enemy of the people," Trump told the annual Conservative Political Action Conference.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2017/02/24/donald-trump-cpac-media-enemy-of-the-people/98347970/
Just by slightly twisting a phrase and leaving out a critical part they manage to make Trump look stupid. The media in general is not the enemy of the people; but the FAKE news people are.
As we all know, this is just one example, but it is the one that got me going last night to the point I may have succeeded in keeping my in-laws away for quite a while! :)
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And a perfect, self-proving example of what he was talking about - falsely reported information causing problems for the people, the way this was reported proves his point. Ipso facto.
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Let's post the entire (sort of) original Tweet, then. The actual original Tweet was deleted but was similar.
The FAKE NEWS media (failing @nytimes, @NBCNews, @ABC, @CBS, @CNN) is not my enemy, it is the enemy of the American People!
So it wasn't quite as simple as you suggest. He does say that the "fake news media" is the enemy, but he also calls out on a blanket basis a massive chunk of the mainstream news media.
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Let's post the entire (sort of) original Tweet, then. The actual original Tweet was deleted but was similar.
So it wasn't quite as simple as you suggest. He does say that the "fake news media" is the enemy, but he also calls out on a blanket basis a massive chunk of the mainstream news media.
I assume you mean.. . "...but he also calls out a blanket bias of a massive chunk of the ...."
Does anyone think that fake news isn't an enemy of the people?
Does anyone think that most of the mainstream news media is unbiased?
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https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2017/03/13/shots-fired-at-ferguson-market-after-cnn-broadcasts-fake-news-and-edited-cctv-footage/
"CNN Fake News is going to get someone killed.".
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I assume you mean.. . "...but he also calls out a blanket bias of a massive chunk of the ...."
Does anyone think that fake news isn't an enemy of the people?
Does anyone think that most of the mainstream news media is unbiased?
The mainstream media including CNN, NBC/MSNBC/Comcast (their owner, and very Democrat politically active), ABC, CBS, PBS, ESPN, AP, Reuters, NYT, Washpo, etc are just propaganda arms of the Democrat Party. They are more like Tass, or Pravda than "news" organizations. Oh, they call the information they spew "news", but it is actually thinly disguised propaganda (misinformation, and disinformation) to make Republicans look bad, and promote the Democrat, Progressive agenda. It is not limited to their "news" programming. It is also seen in their entertainment programming.
This is a major failure of our society, and along with the take over of our education systems, and rank and file government, a daunting problem for our standard of living, and quality of life as more funds are drained form the productive economy, and more freedoms are diminished.
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Let's post the entire (sort of) original Tweet, then. The actual original Tweet was deleted but was similar.
So it wasn't quite as simple as you suggest. He does say that the "fake news media" is the enemy, but he also calls out on a blanket basis a massive chunk of the mainstream news media.
The massive chunk of the media IS all about the agenda of the democrat machine and is the fake news Trump is referring to.
what obviously annoys you is that other republicans haven't had ther stones to call them out for being the party's bitch.
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Let's post the entire (sort of) original Tweet, then. The actual original Tweet was deleted but was similar.
So it wasn't quite as simple as you suggest. He does say that the "fake news media" is the enemy, but he also calls out on a blanket basis a massive chunk of the mainstream news media.
But he specifically said "the FAKE news media" is the enemy. Do you deny that? The fact that he cited a few of the biggest is a side point.
And the fact that he did say "the FAKE media", but that same media reports that he said "The MEDIA is the enemy" proves his point.
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But he specifically said "the FAKE news media" is the enemy. Do you deny that? The fact that he cited a few of the biggest is a side point.
And the fact that he did say "the FAKE media", but that same media reports that he said "The MEDIA is the enemy" proves his point.
Ironic, and hypocritical isn't it? The same media outlets that are "outraged", are the ones falsely reporting what Trump said. It exactly proves his point.
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Milo hits it square ont he head but far too delicate for the snowflakes and professional bullshit crowd.
https://milo.yiannopoulos.net/2017/03/vs-now-medias-coverage-say
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EVERY President asks the lead U.S. Attorneys to resign, or they get fired when a new Administration comes in. Common practice for both parties. It is irresponsible for the media to report, or insinuate otherwise.
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You don't have to be an English major :) to see all the slanting.
It's pervasive. Lately I've seen, instead of "since Trump's election,"
"...since the Trump takeover of the White House."
Sounds like he stormed it with a band of renegades, instead of 63,000,000 peaceful voters.
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EVERY President asks the lead U.S. Attorneys to resign, or they get fired when a new Administration comes in. Common practice for both parties. It is irresponsible for the media to report, or insinuate otherwise.
Nothing new here.
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>:( >:( >:(
I get so sick of hearing and reading that. Last night my in-laws repeated that during a birthday party I was throwing for one of them.
From USELESS A Today:
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2017/02/24/donald-trump-cpac-media-enemy-of-the-people/98347970/
Just by slightly twisting a phrase and leaving out a critical part they manage to make Trump look stupid. The media in general is not the enemy of the people; but the FAKE news people are.
As we all know, this is just one example, but it is the one that got me going last night to the point I may have succeeded in keeping my in-laws away for quite a while! :)
I agree completely that the media takes joyful glee in criticizing the President, much more than I can remember from the past. All of the recent press on the replacement of Justice Department attorneys is a good example – as Anthony pointed out, this is a common occurrence – but the press covers it as though this is a horrible new thing.
That being said, the President (and his Administration) isn’t a blameless victim. The President is a longtime fan of truthful hyperbole and utilizes it, as well as deflection, to its fullest.
The President is quite adept at manufacturing his own “fake news”. From his support of the birther theory (when it was useful to him) to his denunciation (when it no longer was), through the size of the inauguration crowds; millions of illegal votes were cast (what ever DID happen to that promised investigation?); the pretty serious charge that a past President wiretapped his phones, to the current claims that TrumpCare will be wonderful - the best health plan ever devised, the President lays these things out there and the press just can’t help but show the inaccuracies.
His spokespeople then have the un-enviable task of trying to clean up and clarify just what the President meant. Neither Mr. Spicer (love the recent quote about unemployment figures used to be bogus, but now they aren’t, possibly a bad joke?) or Ms. Conway (who has extraordinary skill at not answering the question) are particularly helpful, they just add fuel to the fire.
The President was pretty clear when he accused the entire CNN network as fake news. As long as the Administration keeps throwing out the red meat, the wolves in the press will continue to have a field day, it’s great for ratings.
PS - the ratings thing is applicable to the press across the political spectrum!
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I don't think Trump is blameless either. He is very good at creating his own problems, especially in how he communicates, and what he says which sometimes seems just like emotional venting. However, Obama said a lot of stupid things in which the media hardly focused upon. Now with Trump it is an hourly media creation of something he has done, or said that is wrong, and bad for America. A portion of it, as I said previously is Trump's own fault, but he isn't given a pass like Obama. A lot of it is manufactured, and/or spun by the media into something derogatory which is either untrue, or not explained honestly.
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apparently, the race to the bottom isn't over.
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I agree completely that the media takes joyful glee in criticizing the President, much more than I can remember from the past. All of the recent press on the replacement of Justice Department attorneys is a good example – as Anthony pointed out, this is a common occurrence – but the press covers it as though this is a horrible new thing.
And this is why their prestige and trust in them is falling so far.
Granted it's a single poll, but a recent Fox News poll found that 45% of the people believe that government officials working for Trump will tell the truth, but only 42% expect the media to do it. Sad news for the media when their credibility ranks below people like Sean Spicer.
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Criticizing Spicer to get a dig in against republicans is the problem with modern political discussion.
Spicer told the press to get a grip or go to hell, which makes him the enemy, of course.
After Obama's lying assholes, I find Spicer a refreshing change. Of course apologists for the left would find him objectionable.