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Spin Zone => Spin Zone => Topic started by: Mase on January 16, 2016, 12:53:42 PM
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VIDEO (http://www1.cbn.com/media/video/embedplayer.php?bcid=1509282970001)
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Sad part is most of Europe just enies this is happening. Look at Angela Merkle, she's helping them out.
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And to think that my dad fought fascism in the Ardennes in 1944-1945, and had his buddy's brains explode on him in a foxhole, only to allow these Muslim fascists to try to take over Belgium.
Disgusting.
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I did find it refreshing that this guy just came out and was honest about what Sharia/Islam is all about. It is another form of fascism as Stan says. I don't understand why European leaders are promoting this stuff, and yes it is coming here. Actually it IS here.
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I expect that what will happen is that civil war will erupt in someplace, like Belgium. The pro-democracy resistance will appeal to the EU for military assistance. Some countries will answer the call, causing civil strife with their own Muslim communities. At some point, some group or another will appeal to the U.S. to come over and restore democracy and suppress (read kill or deport) the Muslim population.
The other option is is that the Muslims suppress their nuttier elements and an Islamic reformation takes place that specifically repudiates all Islamic teachings that are antithetical to modern democracy and individual liberties.
I leave it to you to decide which is the more likely scenario.
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I expect that what will happen is that civil war will erupt in someplace, like Belgium. The pro-democracy resistance will appeal to the EU for military assistance. Some countries will answer the call, causing civil strife with their own Muslim communities. At some point, some group or another will appeal to the U.S. to come over and restore democracy and suppress (read kill or deport) the Muslim population.
The other option is is that the Muslims suppress their nuttier elements and an Islamic reformation takes place that specifically repudiates all Islamic teachings that are antithetical to modern democracy and individual liberties.
I leave it to you to decide which is the more likely scenario.
Nice to see you here, Kristin. Good post.
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I expect that what will happen is that civil war will erupt in someplace, like Belgium. The pro-democracy resistance will appeal to the EU for military assistance. Some countries will answer the call, causing civil strife with their own Muslim communities. At some point, some group or another will appeal to the U.S. to come over and restore democracy and suppress (read kill or deport) the Muslim population.
The other option is is that the Muslims suppress their nuttier elements and an Islamic reformation takes place that specifically repudiates all Islamic teachings that are antithetical to modern democracy and individual liberties.
I leave it to you to decide which is the more likely scenario.
Hi Kristin. I doubt we will see civil wars in indoctrinated Europe. We won't bail them out this time either. This is for whatever reason a welcome invasion by their government/political class. Their people are used to oppression, and being serfs, they have no 2A, and the independence has been bred out of them over the centuries. We are the last hope and the last resistance to the new Dark Ages.
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I kinda see something else on the horizon.
I do not see us coming to Europe's rescue, they are perfectly adapt at helping themselves.
I do see a Holy Roman Crusades Version 2.0 pushing back at the Muslims there and abroad.
Europe's Kings especially Frank the Hammer Martel managed to send the Muslim armies packing in the heart of France back in the 700's AD and they can do it again, witness the Crusades Version 1.0.
I hate conspiracy theories, but what Merkle et al are doing with respect to importing them in is like a false flag operation, designed I believe to aggravate and piss off the general population.
To what end, I think to rile up the electorate into getting some strong man/men into power in Europe and change the mandate to one of Facism.
Possibly the Europeans might be willing to repeat recent history and elect/crown someone worse than Stalin, Hitler or Mao.
The Europeans are already flexing their military muscle all over the Middle East and North Africa with small deployments, especially the Germans sorta feeling out and slowly laying the noose for the Islamists.
We certainly don't have the testicular fortitude to do the job anymore, but they sure as hell do and they are just getting warmed up. What worries me most is if/when their done with their Blizkrieg on the Islamists, is will they turn their attention to us North Americans.
If we ask for our 400 plus hydrogen bombs back from our Nato bases in protest of their decimation of the Middle East, will they send them back to us with extreme prejudice ?
Ah don't worry about me, I tend to be a glass half empty kinda guy. ::)
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I really wish some of you folks would actually have the opportunity to get to really know some actual Muslims. Your views are so distorted my the news media you that are addicted to, that seriously I'm surprised you actually go up in small airplanes. You guys do realize that little single engine airplanes are total deathtraps, right?? I know actual Muslims. It's not as dire as you think. The news makes it seem that way.
Having said that, I will say that I agree that Europe has made a grave mistake in welcoming in so many total strangers. It will bite them badly.
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I really wish some of you folks would actually have the opportunity to get really to know some actual Muslims.
That video is of actual Muslims, apparently being honest about their intentions, in the same manner as huge crowds shouting "death to America" and Iran promising to wipe Israel off the map.
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I really wish some of you folks would actually have the opportunity to get to really know some actual Muslims. Your views are so distorted my the news media you that are addicted to, that seriously I'm surprised you actually go up in small airplanes. You guys do realize that little single engine airplanes are total deathtraps, right?? I know actual Muslims. It's not as dire as you think. The news makes it seem that way.
Having said that, I will say that I agree that Europe has made a grave mistake in welcoming in so many total strangers. It will bite them badly.
I really wish some of you folks would actually have the opportunity to get to really use some actual guns. Your views are so distorted my the news media you that are addicted to, that seriously I'm surprised you actually go up in small airplanes. You guys do realize that little single engine airplanes are total deathtraps, right?? I know actual Muslims. It's not as dire as you think. The news makes it seem that way.
Having said that, I will say that I agree that Europe is the model in banning in so many total weapons. It will bite us badly.
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I really wish some of you folks would actually have the opportunity to get to really know some actual Muslims. Your views are so distorted my the news media you that are addicted to, that seriously I'm surprised you actually go up in small airplanes. You guys do realize that little single engine airplanes are total deathtraps, right?? I know actual Muslims. It's not as dire as you think. The news makes it seem that way.
Having said that, I will say that I agree that Europe has made a grave mistake in welcoming in so many total strangers. It will bite them badly.
Dave, just stop. Please. I know you're enlightened and all as compared to us Neanderthals, but your "actual Muslims" quote is moronic.
I know some "actual Blacks" too. They are CFIs, corporate pilots, bankers, dentists, CPAs, business owners and entrepreneurs.
I don't actually know black gangbangers, however. Does that prohibit me from talking about and decrying the epidemic of black-on-black crime in inner cities, or make me a bigot by avoiding the northwest part of intercity Milwaukee?
This is not a situation where bigots analogize that the two dozen inbred members of the Westboro Baptist Church are a representation of all of Christianity.
This is literally millions - a large plurality - of Muslims who are attempting to change the culture and legal systems of countries to which they are emigrating.
But of course, you know "actual
Muslims" so we just shouldn't believe what we see with our own eyes and hear with our own ears. Gotcha.
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What scares me about Europe, and what is happening is that its an invited invasion which will not be able to be "pushed back". They will be entrenched there. Not assimilated, but entrenched. How do you remove them? They will be a majority soon, and it will happen here if we don't stop it. Sharia law will be forced down the throats of the weak Europeans.
Dave. I know mainstream Muslims. The dirty little secret is that many if not most of them support JIHAD.
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I know mainstream Muslims. The dirty little secret is that many if not most of them support JIHAD.
They may be squeamish about the methods but they agree with the goal.
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I know mainstream Muslims. The dirty little secret is that many if not most of them support JIHAD.
They may be squeamish about the methods but they agree with the goal.
Exactly. Islam is not tolerant of other views, values, or ideals. They are brutally one minded.
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I really wish some of you folks would actually have the opportunity to get to really know some actual Muslims. Your views are so distorted my the news media you that are addicted to, that seriously I'm surprised you actually go up in small airplanes. You guys do realize that little single engine airplanes are total deathtraps, right?? I know actual Muslims. It's not as dire as you think. The news makes it seem that way.
Having said that, I will say that I agree that Europe has made a grave mistake in welcoming in so many total strangers. It will bite them badly.
One question Dave, if the day comes when one of your Muslim friends comes to you and asks when you're going to convert to Islam, what will your answer be?
I know, it will never happen here.
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What no one tells you is although Muslims are 25% of Brussels (something I doubt VERY strongly based on personal experience) only a small percentage of those are demanding Sharia everywhere. Most just want to get along with their lives. Moreover, the next generation are going to identify far more with Europe than with their nation of origin, and are likely to want to share European values.
I think all this jihadi fervor is a passing political movement, and I expect to see the end of it in my lifetime. These things come and go. I suspect much more energy will be put into the coming eruption of inter-Muslim violence as the Sunni/Shiite wars continue to heat up. The lifting of sanctions on Iran will heat those wars up quite a bit more.
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I really wish some of you folks would actually have the opportunity to get to really know some actual Muslims. Your views are so distorted my the news media you that are addicted to, that seriously I'm surprised you actually go up in small airplanes. You guys do realize that little single engine airplanes are total deathtraps, right?? I know actual Muslims. It's not as dire as you think. The news makes it seem that way.
Having said that, I will say that I agree that Europe has made a grave mistake in welcoming in so many total strangers. It will bite them badly.
One question Dave, if the day comes when one of your Muslim friends comes to you and asks when you're going to convert to Islam, what will your answer be?
I know, it will never happen here.
The argument that we are all backward, fly-over country, hicks, is attractive to self important jerks, and all, but the reality is there are VERY few moderate Muslims when you dig beneath the surface. Just as CAIR is little but a terror funding, facilitating, and fermenting organization, so too do many supposedly moderate Muslims lie about their real intentions, and egotistical blowhards eat it up like mothers milk to an adult baby.
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Invest 4:52
'Gimp
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Invest 4:52
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Damn, Gimp. You beat me to it. I also have this clip of the same event.
Steingar and Dave8or, "The peaceful majority were irrelevant."
http://www.ijreview.com/2014/06/148769-peaceful-majority-irrelevant-fiery-response-islamist-extremism-threat-u-s/
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I expect that what will happen is that civil war will erupt in someplace, like Belgium. The pro-democracy resistance will appeal to the EU for military assistance. Some countries will answer the call, causing civil strife with their own Muslim communities. At some point, some group or another will appeal to the U.S. to come over and restore democracy and suppress (read kill or deport) the Muslim population.
The other option is is that the Muslims suppress their nuttier elements and an Islamic reformation takes place that specifically repudiates all Islamic teachings that are antithetical to modern democracy and individual liberties.
I leave it to you to decide which is the more likely scenario.
Hi Kristin. I doubt we will see civil wars in indoctrinated Europe. We won't bail them out this time either. This is for whatever reason a welcome invasion by their government/political class. Their people are used to oppression, and being serfs, they have no 2A, and the independence has been bred out of them over the centuries. We are the last hope and the last resistance to the new Dark Ages.
That is politically incorrect enough that I could have written it. :) I do think that there is more than a grain of truth and hits on one of the major differences between the U.S. and Europe. I tend to look at it slightly differently, though it may be a distinction without a difference. For two to three hundred years, most all the ornery malcontents of Europe, those yearning to be free, came to the U.S. That seeded this continent with the ornery and left Europe a bit bereft in that department.
I would argue, however, that another major difference is our Constitution. It is a paean of orneriness as it enshrines individual liberties. No other country has that. Witness the UK Parliament debating excluding Trump from entering their country because they don't like free speech if it might offend somebody.
That being said, if they have leader, then will fight. They are good at that, once there is someone to follow.
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What no one tells you is although Muslims are 25% of Brussels (something I doubt VERY strongly based on personal experience) only a small percentage of those are demanding Sharia everywhere. Most just want to get along with their lives. Moreover, the next generation are going to identify far more with Europe than with their nation of origin, and are likely to want to share European values.
I think all this jihadi fervor is a passing political movement, and I expect to see the end of it in my lifetime. These things come and go. I suspect much more energy will be put into the coming eruption of inter-Muslim violence as the Sunni/Shiite wars continue to heat up. The lifting of sanctions on Iran will heat those wars up quite a bit more.
Islam is like a cruise ship. There are only a handful driving the boat but the rest are happy to go for the ride.
Whatever happens with jihad, they are still a backward culture that treats woman almost as well as they treat their goats, kill homosexuals, and are commanded to, and often do, kill non-believers. When a significant portion of the imans repudiate that stuff and a cartoon of Mohammad doesn't end up in riots and burning embassies, then I was consider Muslims to be members of a civilized society.
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I constantly argue with our progressive friends, especially progressive feminists, who turn a blind eye to the horrific abuse of women and girls at the hands of the insane women hating muslims.
There is no greater form of hypocrisy than a feminist arguing that it is discriminatory to speak out about those abuses.
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Invest 4:52
'Gimp
http://www.ijreview.com/2014/06/148769-peaceful-majority-irrelevant-fiery-response-islamist-extremism-threat-u-s/
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That thing should go viral. The points made there are succinct, true, and germane. And my liberal friends would stop listening as soon as they saw "Heritage Foundation." How many more shootings/rapes/murders and the like will it take for them to see that indeed, "The peaceful majority is irrelevant."?
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I constantly argue with our progressive friends, especially progressive feminists, who turn a blind eye to the horrific abuse of women and girls at the hands of the insane women hating muslims.
There is no greater form of hypocrisy than a feminist arguing that it is discriminatory to speak out about those abuses.
Amazing isn't it?
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I constantly argue with our progressive friends, especially progressive feminists, who turn a blind eye to the horrific abuse of women and girls at the hands of the insane women hating muslims.
There is no greater form of hypocrisy than a feminist arguing that it is discriminatory to speak out about those abuses.
Not so much hypocritical as bone-stupid, in my book. That is what happens to people when the education kids are getting focuses on social work and ignores history and civics.
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So, I see there is a lot of push back to my "I wish you guys could get to know a Muslim..." post. I watched the above posted video of Brigitte Gabriel and the "irrelevant majority" ages ago. I don't disagree with her conclusions. I also fully agree that Europe has made some pretty poor choices regarding their national securities. They will really regret these decisions IMO.
However...
We have millions of Muslims living here now already. More and more are joining the Muslim faith all the time here in America. There are thousands of valuable, useful, employable Muslims wanting to move here and live here. There are many Muslim countries that want to live in the 21st century and not the 7th century.
Do we have a "Muslim problem" here in the US? If we do, what is to be done about it? What exactly should be done about this so called "assault style religion"?
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Do we have a "Muslim problem" here in the US? If we do, what is to be done about it? What exactly should be done about this so called "assault style religion"?
Saying we have a "Muslim Problem" is the same as saying we have "Gun Violence". Prosecute PEOPLE THAT COMMIT VIOLENCE AND TERROR. I don't care if their belief system is Wickan. Yes, there is a trend with Muslims that we should profile, but that doesn't mean we demonize all Muslims.
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Saying we have a "Muslim Problem" is the same as saying we have "Gun Violence". Prosecute PEOPLE THAT COMMIT VIOLENCE AND TERROR. I don't care if their belief system is Wickan. Yes, there is a trend with Muslims that we should profile, but that doesn't mean we demonize all Muslims.
Isn't that what we do here in the US? Don't we prosecute them for the crimes they commit? I think we do. I think we are doing exactly as you describe, so what's all the fuss about? Why do people keep going on about the Muslims?
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Isn't that what we do here in the US? Don't we prosecute them for the crimes they commit? I think we do. I think we are doing exactly as you describe, so what's all the fuss about? Why do people keep going on about the Muslims?
Yes, we do, but we also need to try to stop violence, and terrorism before it happens. That's where profiling comes in. Profiling does not mean demonization of all Muslims.
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Saying we have a "Muslim Problem" is the same as saying we have "Gun Violence". Prosecute PEOPLE THAT COMMIT VIOLENCE AND TERROR. I don't care if their belief system is Wickan. Yes, there is a trend with Muslims that we should profile, but that doesn't mean we demonize all Muslims.
Isn't that what we do here in the US? Don't we prosecute them for the crimes they commit? I think we do. I think we are doing exactly as you describe, so what's all the fuss about? Why do people keep going on about the Muslims?
I think the difference and why we go on about Islam and Muslims is that their religion and the law system are one and the same and they feel that everyone should be a part of that system.
You have the Imam over in Europe telling everyone that all those women were raped because of how they dressed and that they wore perfume!!! Because of that they deserved what they got.
I hold nothing against Muslims, but would be very wary. Probably no different than me wanting the Hispanics to assimilate instead of wanting us to print everything in Spanish.
How do you feel about the company (Ariens?) in Wisconsin telling the Muslims that cannot have their prayer sessions?
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Saying we have a "Muslim Problem" is the same as saying we have "Gun Violence". Prosecute PEOPLE THAT COMMIT VIOLENCE AND TERROR. I don't care if their belief system is Wickan. Yes, there is a trend with Muslims that we should profile, but that doesn't mean we demonize all Muslims.
Isn't that what we do here in the US? Don't we prosecute them for the crimes they commit? I think we do. I think we are doing exactly as you describe, so what's all the fuss about? Why do people keep going on about the Muslims?
Because Muslims all over the world chant "Death to America".
I do agree that no all Muslims are terrorists, or even that they hate us. The problem is that I don't know how to tell the difference. And profiling is illegal so we have to strip search as many white grandmothers as we do 20 something yr old single Muslim males with beards.
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Saying we have a "Muslim Problem" is the same as saying we have "Gun Violence". Prosecute PEOPLE THAT COMMIT VIOLENCE AND TERROR. I don't care if their belief system is Wickan. Yes, there is a trend with Muslims that we should profile, but that doesn't mean we demonize all Muslims.
Isn't that what we do here in the US? Don't we prosecute them for the crimes they commit? I think we do. I think we are doing exactly as you describe, so what's all the fuss about? Why do people keep going on about the Muslims?
Because Muslims all over the world chant "Death to America".
I do agree that no all Muslims are terrorists, or even that they hate us. The problem is that I don't know how to tell the difference. And profiling is illegal so we have to strip search as many white grandmothers as we do 20 something yr old single Muslim males with beards.
Insanity.