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Title: Anybody know anything about Imagineair?
Post by: Anthony on May 24, 2017, 08:07:39 AM
http://www.imagineair.com/

It seems they use Cirrus SR-22's for private flights for hire.  Interesting concept.  I wonder how it is working out for them? 
Title: Re: Anybody know anything about Imagineair?
Post by: Lucifer on May 24, 2017, 08:10:17 AM
If you want a good laugh, check out their fares.
Title: Re: Anybody know anything about Imagineair?
Post by: Anthony on May 24, 2017, 08:27:20 AM
If you want a good laugh, check out their fares.

I did.  I planned a short flight from my home airport (N. western Philly burbs) to Williamsburg, VA, which is a 1:10 flight, and the cost was over $1,500.  Yikes!   
Title: Re: Anybody know anything about Imagineair?
Post by: acrogimp on May 24, 2017, 08:31:08 AM
OMG, I had it estimate part of an actual flight I could try, CLT to SAV when I go see Gulfstream, $8100 roundtrip for a 185 nm trip ($21.89/nm).  Actual direct costs for that flight are 3 hrs of pilot, and about 50-60 gallons of gas - where the fuck does the other $7,600 go?

That is fucking hilarious.

I could charter a Lear 45 from SAN to SAV for $32K (which is also fucking ridiculous, but it works out to 'only' $8.84/nm roundtrip).

Who the fuck are the people who would use that?

And re: my sudden interest in the Cessna TTx, it would make that trip with one-stop each way, ~340 gallons of fuel, direct costs of maybe $1400, and a super fun day each way, all-in travel times about 2-3 hours LESS each way than the airlines for about 2.5 times the cost.  If only I could convince management.....

'Gimp
Title: Re: Anybody know anything about Imagineair?
Post by: Anthony on May 24, 2017, 08:42:21 AM
And re: my sudden interest in the Cessna TTx, it would make that trip with one-stop each way, ~340 gallons of fuel, direct costs of maybe $1400, and a super fun day each way, all-in travel times about 2-3 hours LESS each way than the airlines for about 2.5 times the cost.  If only I could convince management.....

Yeah, but you'd miss the sound of that sweet radial! 
Title: Re: Anybody know anything about Imagineair?
Post by: acrogimp on May 24, 2017, 08:45:54 AM
Yeah, but you'd miss the sound of that sweet radial!
The Yak could do it too, 2 days each way, with about 10 fuel stops each way, consuming 420 gallons of fuel ($1600) AND about 40 quarts of oil ($300).

Also an adventure, but I might be a bit dishevelled once I arrived.

'Gimp
Title: Re: Anybody know anything about Imagineair?
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on May 24, 2017, 11:04:49 AM
They seem to be doing quite well.  They are headquartered at KLZU.  Did a tour at their maintenance facility last year with some of my summer camp kids.  I interviewed with them for a dispatchers slot years ago.  They had just hired some one, but did give me a call a couple of year later.  They like older experienced pilots to fly for them.
Title: Re: Anybody know anything about Imagineair?
Post by: Anthony on May 31, 2017, 07:38:31 AM
They seem to be doing quite well.  They are headquartered at KLZU.  Did a tour at their maintenance facility last year with some of my summer camp kids.  I interviewed with them for a dispatchers slot years ago.  They had just hired some one, but did give me a call a couple of year later.  They like older experienced pilots to fly for them.

I am glad it is working out for them.  Anything that can use GA to be more useful is great IMHO.  I would imagine that some people's time is valuable enough to use their services.  I wonder what their hourly costs are including pilot wages. 
Title: Re: Anybody know anything about Imagineair?
Post by: acrogimp on May 31, 2017, 10:21:12 AM
Not specific to ImagineAir but I have a textbook case for GA aircraft in business travel coming up.

Meetings with customers in PHX, TUS and ABQ on 6/12, 6/13 and 6/15, myself and our BD guy.

Meet in PHX and TUS with 2 customers on Monday, then another customer in PHX on Tuesday, last one is ABQ on Thursday.

Everyone originally wanted Monday, with a 182 or better that would have been possible - long day but no rental car, no hotels, no show up early and wait......

I may actually put together a full-on business case using this trip as an example - the opportunity cost, hotels and taxes, etc., far outweigh the cost even for the super gucci G500/SVT-GTN750 C-182RG at $202/hr - and that is not including the hassle factor.

I really need to get the policy changed or work for a company that gets it (or just wants to keep me happy).

'Gimp
Title: Re: Anybody know anything about Imagineair?
Post by: Anthony on May 31, 2017, 10:43:32 AM
Not specific to ImagineAir but I have a textbook case for GA aircraft in business travel coming up.

Meetings with customers in PHX, TUS and ABQ on 6/12, 6/13 and 6/15, myself and our BD guy.

Meet in PHX and TUS with 2 customers on Monday, then another customer in PHX on Tuesday, last one is ABQ on Thursday.

Everyone originally wanted Monday, with a 182 or better that would have been possible - long day but no rental car, no hotels, no show up early and wait......

I may actually put together a full-on business case using this trip as an example - the opportunity cost, hotels and taxes, etc., far outweigh the cost even for the super gucci G500/SVT-GTN750 C-182RG at $202/hr - and that is not including the hassle factor.

I really need to get the policy changed or work for a company that gets it (or just wants to keep me happy).

'Gimp

I used to have to go to Groton, CT from the Philly area weekly for work.  My company gave me an apartment up there so I'd go up Monday morning, and come back Friday evening.  Due to having to drive through NYC area traffic, the drive was HELL on earth.  It was a minimum five and a half or six hour drive if there were no accidents along the route.  I could fly it in my Tiger in 1:20, or so depending on winds.  It was a no brainer, and I did fly it as much as practical.  I didn't get reimbursed because it was considering "commuting" in the deal I cut with the company, but they paid for my living expenses while there, so I couldn't complain.