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Spin Zone => Spin Zone => Topic started by: Lucifer on May 30, 2017, 04:48:08 PM
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So a little known irrelevant comedian wants attention, so she tweets a picture of herself holding a bloody severed head of Trump.
http://www.nbcwashington.com/entertainment/entertainment-news/Kathy-Griffin-Under-Fire-for-Bloody-Decapitated-Trump-Image-425364714.html
Comedian Kathy Griffin was taking fire on social media Tuesday and is now possibly the focus of a Secret Service investigation after photographs surfaced of her holding a bloody decapitated head resembling the commander-in-chief.
So who remembers this? And the "outrage" that followed?
http://www.cnn.com/2013/08/12/politics/missouri-obama-rodeo/
http://www.cnn.com/2013/08/15/politics/missouri-rodeo-clowns-sensitivity-training-obama-clown/
https://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/peter-roff/2013/08/13/obama-rodeo-clown-loses-his-job-and-america-loses-its-sense-of-humor
http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2013/08/13/211602534/rodeo-clown-who-wore-obama-mask-banned-from-state-fair
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/08/11/rodeo-clown-obama-mask/2641597/
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She is a looser........ loser spelled wrong.
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Lol, in what world is she "little-known"? If she was so insignificant, she wouldn't have made headlines everywhere parodying a Game of Thrones photo shoot.
Personally, I think it's in poor taste, but hardly anything that anyone should be outraged over. Conservative republicans looking like the snowflakes getting their feelings hurt on this one.
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I'm sure the Secret Service will pay her a visit.
She's already apologized and this all seems like it was planned. I don't think she was sincere in her apology but she got what she wanted: attention.
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Lol, in what world is she "little-known"? If she was so insignificant, she wouldn't have made headlines everywhere parodying a Game of Thrones photo shoot.
Personally, I think it's in poor taste, but hardly anything that anyone should be outraged over. Conservative republicans looking like the snowflakes getting their feelings hurt on this one.
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I think the bigger issue is the hypocrisy of the left. Lucifer posted several instances where someone made fun of Obama and they were demolished for it but so far there's been a lack of backlash over this. We'll see if CNN fires her from the New Year's Eve gig but I won't hold my breath.
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I think the bigger issue is the hypocrisy of the left. Lucifer posted several instances where someone made fun of Obama and they were demolished for it but so far there's been a lack of backlash over this. We'll see if CNN fires her from the New Year's Eve gig but I won't hold my breath.
Exactly. The rodeo clown was excoriated for wearing a mask that looked like Obama. The MSM feigned outrage and the cries of "racism" were made. The liberals demanded his head.
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I think the bigger issue is the hypocrisy of the left. Lucifer posted several instances where someone made fun of Obama and they were demolished for it but so far there's been a lack of backlash over this. We'll see if CNN fires her from the New Year's Eve gig but I won't hold my breath.
^^^^This. Griffin is an attention whore, but the problem is the continued far left bias of the media.
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I think the bigger issue is the hypocrisy of the left. Lucifer posted several instances where someone made fun of Obama and they were demolished for it but so far there's been a lack of backlash over this. We'll see if CNN fires her from the New Year's Eve gig but I won't hold my breath.
Yep. This is the left signalling in effigy that they would back a bloody coup, a physical beheading just like the sick Islamic terrorists. This is at core WHO THEY ARE. I hope the Secret Service tears her a new one.
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The real world definition of democrat has become: projecting hypocrite.
Sooner Avitation has reminded us of this... again.
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Lol, in what world is she "little-known"? If she was so insignificant, she wouldn't have made headlines everywhere parodying a Game of Thrones photo shoot.
Personally, I think it's in poor taste, but hardly anything that anyone should be outraged over. Conservative republicans looking like the snowflakes getting their feelings hurt on this one.
I recall seeing Obama hung in effigy a while back and I was just as outraged. I hated Obama and am thrilled he's out of the White House, but people who do that sort of thing are suggesting violent insurrection. It's encouraging people to have thoughts about assassination of a sitting President and THAT is sedition. I don't tolerate it from anyone toward any President. It's got nothing to do with "snowflake feelings". What she did is extremely hostile and promoting hate, very lamely disguised as "comedy". It's atrocious, just like anyone suggesting we hang Obama was atrocious. But the anti-Obama sentiment NEVER reached the levels we're seeing out of the left today toward Trump and anyone supporting him. The liberal left is a runaway train of hatred unlike anything I've ever seen in my life, and I saw the KKK burning crosses in the 1960s.
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The liberal left is a runaway train of hatred unlike anything I've ever seen in my life, and I saw the KKK burning crosses in the 1960s.
Just to be clear, those KKK members in the '60's burning crosses were predominately democrats.
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But the anti-Obama sentiment NEVER reached the levels we're seeing out of the left today toward Trump and anyone supporting him. The liberal left is a runaway train of hatred unlike anything I've ever seen in my life, and I saw the KKK burning crosses in the 1960s.
Obama used the White House for eight years of travel, partying, and campaigning for the Democrats, and got a free ride from the media. I have never seen a President almost solely focused on the political, and social aspects of the job, and not the broader administration, and management of our country for the good of everyone. That being said, I accepted that he was President, and never uttered, nor even thought of harm coming to him.
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I was never a fan of her brand of comedy to begin with. Hopefully she flames out and CFITs soon.
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I was never a fan of her brand of comedy to begin with. Hopefully she flames out and CFITs soon.
http://money.cnn.com/2017/05/31/media/cnn-kathy-griffin/index.html
We'll see how long this last. My bet is after everything cools off she'll be back.
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Are all comedians today far left kooks? What happened to people like Bob Hope, and Johnny Carson? Instead we have the likes of Whoopi Goldberg, Sarah Silverman, Joy Behar, Louie CK, Griffin, and a plethora of other nut jobs that hate the U.S., but are happy to make money here.
http://www.mrctv.org/blog/sarah-silverman-mocks-jesus-gop-new-promo
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Are all comedians today far left kooks? What happened to people like Bob Hope, and Johnny Carson?
http://www.mrctv.org/blog/sarah-silverman-mocks-jesus-gop-new-promo
Right now you have a bunch of "D" listers that have lackluster careers and they are all trying to get attention, so the "bash Trump" on social media seems to be their ticket.
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Are all comedians today far left kooks? What happened to people like Bob Hope, and Johnny Carson? Instead we have the likes of Whoopi Goldberg, Sarah Silverman, Joy Behar, Louie CK, Griffin, and a plethora of other nut jobs that hate the U.S., but are happy to make money here.
http://www.mrctv.org/blog/sarah-silverman-mocks-jesus-gop-new-promo
I believe Johnny Carson was a Liberal, though not vocal about his own political views.
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I believe Johnny Carson was a Liberal, though not vocal about his own political views.
He probably was, but as you say was not partisan on air. Entertainers, for the most part were a lot classier back then, at least publicly.
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I really don't care about celebrities and their political bent, except when they puke their no talent, all consuming, egotistical ignorance out directed directly anyone that dares not pander the progressive bullshit.
Then I tune them out permanently.
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http://money.cnn.com/2017/05/31/media/cnn-kathy-griffin/index.html
We'll see how long this last. My bet is after everything cools off she'll be back.
Good. There are consequences to actions as she just found out.
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Just to be clear, those KKK members in the '60's burning crosses were predominately democrats.
Yes indeed. And FBI plants.
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I really don't care about celebrities and their political bent, except when they puke their no talent, all consuming, egotistical ignorance out directed directly anyone that dares not pander the progressive bullshit.
Then I tune them out permanently.
Don't care either for entertainers using their publicity to hawk their political views.
That said, some non-liberal comedians I am aware of that come to mind:
Tim Allen; conservative.
Rob Schneider; conservative.
Drew Carey; libertarian.
Doug Stanhope; libertarian.
Kurt Russell; libertarian.
Clint Eastwood; libertarian.
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Don't care either for entertainers using their publicity to hawk their political views.
That said, some non-liberal comedians I am aware of that come to mind:
Tim Allen; conservative.
Rob Schneider; conservative.
Drew Carey; libertarian.
Doug Stanhope; libertarian.
Kurt Russell; libertarian.
Clint Eastwood; libertarian.
And how many of those people say, and do whacky things?
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And how many of those people say, and do whacky things?
Like talking to a chair? ;D
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Don't care either for entertainers using their publicity to hawk their political views.
That said, some non-liberal comedians I am aware of that come to mind:
Tim Allen; conservative.
Rob Schneider; conservative.
Drew Carey; libertarian.
Doug Stanhope; libertarian.
Kurt Russell; libertarian.
Clint Eastwood; libertarian.
Cute.
NONE of which said she wanted to shove her bloody Kotex in pro life people's mouths, made outrageous claims about the obama children being rapists in training or did photo shoots with a beheaded Donald Trump effigy, risking insane violence like the Bernie fan boy committed in Oregon.
The stupid, "oh yeah? Well republicans did too," excuse is as big a loser as the rest of the progressive apologist bullshit.
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Cute.
NONE of which said she wanted to shove her bloody Kotex in pro life people's mouths, made outrageous. Laims about the obama children being rapists in trains by, or did photo shoots with a beheaded Donald Trump effigy, risking insane violence like the Bernie fan boy committed in Oregon.
The stupid, "oh yeah? Well republicans did too," excuse is as big a loser as the rest of the progressive apologist bullshit.
Sorry - I should have made clear that so far as I know, none of the non-liberal entertainers I listed has (to my limited knowledge) injected their political views into their acts the way liberal comedians have in order to attack others. An entertainer talking politics in a political setting is not the same as skewing the entertainment to make political attacks, so Clint Eastwood at a political convention is not the same as comedians on Saturday Night Live attacking conservatives.
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Don't care either for entertainers using their publicity to hawk their political views.
That said, some non-liberal comedians I am aware of that come to mind:
Tim Allen; conservative.
Rob Schneider; conservative.
Drew Carey; libertarian.
Doug Stanhope; libertarian.
Kurt Russell; libertarian.
Clint Eastwood; libertarian.
Fair enough. While not a comedian, Ted Nugent comes to mind as an entertainer who says some pretty out-of-there stuff.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tNLmi0_216g
All that being said, Ms Griffin's stunt was, IMHO, way out of line.
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Are all comedians today far left kooks? What happened to people like Bob Hope, and Johnny Carson? Instead we have the likes of Whoopi Goldberg, Sarah Silverman, Joy Behar, Louie CK, Griffin, and a plethora of other nut jobs that hate the U.S., but are happy to make money here.
Tucker Carlson said pretty much exactly this tonight.
He had a guest on, I didn't get the name, might be a regular but I don't catch it much anymore, some ginger guy with a British like accent, anyway, the guy made absolute HASH out of Hillary. I laughed out loud throughout the whole thing. It was perfect.
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Tucker Carlson said pretty much exactly this tonight.
He had a guest on, I didn't get the name, might be a regular but I don't catch it much anymore, some ginger guy with a British like accent, anyway, the guy made absolute HASH out of Hillary. I laughed out loud throughout the whole thing. It was perfect.
Mark Steyn
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I think Scott Adams nails it in this blog:
http://blog.dilbert.com/post/161281215881/the-kathy-griffin-controversy
This is just a little teaser of where he goes here, but I absolutely think he gets to the jist of the issue and why Kathy Griffin and a team of people not only thought this was a good idea, but thought at the end of the day most people would like what she did.
"You and I get to live in the movies in our heads until your script and mine come into conflict."
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I think Scott Adams nails it in this blog:
http://blog.dilbert.com/post/161281215881/the-kathy-griffin-controversy
This is just a little teaser of where he goes here, but I absolutely think he gets to the jist of the issue and why Kathy Griffin and a team of people not only thought this was a good idea, but thought at the end of the day most people would like what she did.
"You and I get to live in the movies in our heads until your script and mine come into conflict."
That's a really good way to describe how this country is splitting in two in terms of culture and beliefs and sets of information sources. Like we're watching two completely different movies. We are living in two entirely different realities, like parallel dimensions simultaneously occupying one country. I watched it happen during my lifetime, it was not this way when I was young, not even in the 70s when I was in college. The young generation was rebellious, but you still spoke the same language. You watched the same TV shows. The ideas in something like Star Trek were simultaneously traditional and progressive. You had utopian ideas of man having overcome war but at the same time you respected conservative values like the flag of the United States. There were only the three networks so everyone saw the same news. Now I guess liberals and conservatives watch different news shows and for the most part avoid each other's territory so that the divide grows bigger and bigger. I watch CNN now and I don't even recognize it, it's like they're talking about another planet.
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She's moderately funny occasionally. I haven't seen anything of hers in years though. I'm not sure why she thought anyone would find this humorous though. With that said, I can't imagine why anyone would care. The way some people get worked up over nothing, and then say they're entitled because "the left" was so worked up over something similar in the past. Bah. I think we're above that. I think I'll go back to continuing to not pay any attention to her.
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She's moderately funny occasionally. I haven't seen anything of hers in years though. I'm not sure why she thought anyone would find this humorous though. With that said, I can't imagine why anyone would care. The way some people get worked up over nothing, and then say they're entitled because "the left" was so worked up over something similar in the past. Bah. I think we're above that. I think I'll go back to continuing to not pay any attention to her.
Well if she wanted attention then she got it. Sometimes even negative attention will work in your favor. I think it did for Trump himself, I think all the harping on how outrageous the things he said were, the more people tuned in to see what outrageous thing he'd say next, and I'll wager that turned voters to him after they absorbed the meat of his message. But in this case I'm not sure it's going to help her. I for one agree and also will stop paying attention to her.
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Mark Steyn
BTW, he is filling for Rush today.
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Guess she felt differently at one point......
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Guess she felt differently at one point......
Hypocrisy IS the gold standard for liberals.
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Yeah, Scott Adams nailed it. Personally, I thought nothing about this, and didn't think anything about the Obama Cowboy Clown either. Everyone has a different sense of humor and neither are my thing so I really didn't care.
Put me in the group of people who thinks Trump is an embarrassment to our country, and to his credit I'm sure he never thought he'd be elected, which is why he acted so crazy during the election. I just thought he'd mature afterward but it hasn't happened. Like Adams said, I don't understand how others don't see what I'm seeing.
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Don't care either for entertainers using their publicity to hawk their political views.
That said, some non-liberal comedians I am aware of that come to mind:
Tim Allen; conservative.
Rob Schneider; conservative.
Drew Carey; libertarian.
Doug Stanhope; libertarian.
Kurt Russell; libertarian.
Clint Eastwood; libertarian.
Dennis Miller, although he does express his opinions.
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Put me in the group of people who thinks Trump is an embarrassment to our country,
We watched for 8 years of the biggest hoax ever perpetuated on the American people (Obama). He was a total embarrassment on domestic policies and foreign policies. A total amateur who has never really held a job in the private sector, and his time in the legislature and the senate where he often voted "present" was a joke.
and to his credit I'm sure he never thought he'd be elected, which is why he acted so crazy during the election.
Another liberal progressive talking point. Trump ran an aggressive campaign and out maneuvered his opponent. He even put up his own money, unlike his opponent. And unlike his opponent, he was in it to win it. Your hero Hillary was expecting a coronation.
I just thought he'd mature afterward but it hasn't happened. Like Adams said, I don't understand how others don't see what I'm seeing.
The reason most people don't see what you are seeing is we don't let the fake news MSM tell us what to believe. People that use critical thought and reasoning are seeing through the charades of an ideology and it's MSM who are only intent on bringing down a presidency because they can't accept that they not only lost an election for president, but that they have lost the Senate, the House, over 1,000 legislature seats and that 38 states are under republican control.
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Yeah, Scott Adams nailed it. Personally, I thought nothing about this, and didn't think anything about the Obama Cowboy Clown either. Everyone has a different sense of humor and neither are my thing so I really didn't care.
Put me in the group of people who thinks Trump is an embarrassment to our country, and to his credit I'm sure he never thought he'd be elected, which is why he acted so crazy during the election. I just thought he'd mature afterward but it hasn't happened. Like Adams said, I don't understand how others don't see what I'm seeing.
Why do you think he did not think he would be elected? You think he just did it for the hell of it? Winners and successful people don't generally do something just for fun. Ask yourself, would he have put himself through all of this if he didn't have some goals in mind? He had it about as cushy as one can and yet decided that he needed to do this. Can you not fathom that he may love his country and was tired of seeing it sold down the river. The Paris accord is one example, we pay out billions while India and China do nothing. What kind of fucking fool would sign up for that?
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BTW, he is filling for Rush today.
I caught some of it. Thanks for turning me on to him. He's one to follow. I went to his website and listened to him rant about Kinder Surprise. Hilarious.
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Yeah, Scott Adams nailed it. Personally, I thought nothing about this, and didn't think anything about the Obama Cowboy Clown either. Everyone has a different sense of humor and neither are my thing so I really didn't care.
Put me in the group of people who thinks Trump is an embarrassment to our country, and to his credit I'm sure he never thought he'd be elected, which is why he acted so crazy during the election. I just thought he'd mature afterward but it hasn't happened. Like Adams said, I don't understand how others don't see what I'm seeing.
Exactly, you're watching the movie that is telling you things that for example are making you believe he never thought he'd win so that's why he acted so crazy. The other movie going on portrays it totally differently. He executed a very shrewd campaign and his craziness was calculated. In fact you can find it in his book "Art of the Deal". He talks about starting negotiations at an extreme point, then bringing it down to a moderate point where you close. He saw the election as negotiating a "deal". His craziness was extreme rhetoric aimed at certain voters that he knew would respond to it. Now that he's elected, he has been moderating a lot of his promises, which he has to do in order to get them passed. He was very aware exactly what he was doing all along.
Speaking of the other movie, I understand it made a huge deal of him returning from overseas tired, angry, having gained weight, etc. I thought.... so he had jet lag and was exhausted. SO WHAT? How is that even a story?
If that's the kind of crap you're being fed by your news sources, no wonder you don't like him. You're getting a very skewed picture of him. Maybe I'm getting a skewed picture in the other direction, but my point is how very different they are. It's hard to believe the news is talking about the same human being.
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The real world definition of democrat has become: projecting hypocrite.
Sooner Avitation has reminded us of this... again.
Aww, Number7 is the Number1 snowflake, throwing out the label of Democrat to anyone with a dissenting opinion. Pot, meet kettle. . .
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I recall seeing Obama hung in effigy a while back and I was just as outraged. I hated Obama and am thrilled he's out of the White House, but people who do that sort of thing are suggesting violent insurrection. It's encouraging people to have thoughts about assassination of a sitting President and THAT is sedition. I don't tolerate it from anyone toward any President. It's got nothing to do with "snowflake feelings". What she did is extremely hostile and promoting hate, very lamely disguised as "comedy". It's atrocious, just like anyone suggesting we hang Obama was atrocious. But the anti-Obama sentiment NEVER reached the levels we're seeing out of the left today toward Trump and anyone supporting him. The liberal left is a runaway train of hatred unlike anything I've ever seen in my life, and I saw the KKK burning crosses in the 1960s.
I recall plenty of people talking about how they hoped Obama would get assassinated, or similar. The numerous effigies of Obama being hanged or burned. Comedians making coarse jokes about him. I wasn't offended by it, but I found much of it to be over the line and in poor taste. The same goes for Kathy Griffin's latest gaffe. People are free to say what they want, it's sort of a part of our national rights. It doesn't protect them from being dealt with by their employers, which is exactly what happened in this case.
I'm not personally offended if someone wants to portray the killing of Obama, Clinton, Trump, etc., but they have the right to do so at their own peril. I surely won't be getting upset about a photo shoot for a D-list comedian.
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Comedians making coarse jokes about [Obama].
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Really, Mark, when exactly did that happen? Comedy re POTUS stopped between Jan 2009 and 2017.
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Really, Mark, when exactly did that happen? Comedy re POTUS stopped between Jan 2009 and 2017.
I never heard jokes about Obama either. The media, and entertainment industry worshipped him.
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Really, Mark, when exactly did that happen? Comedy re POTUS stopped between Jan 2009 and 2017.
Quit blowing up his argument with facts guys........
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4566964/Kathy-Griffin-claims-Trump-family-ruined-life.html
Kathy Griffin accused President Donald Trump and his family of launching a campaign to destroy her life in response to the image she posted earlier this week in which she appeared to be holding the commander-in-chief's severed head.
The comedian broke down in tears as she detailed the torrent of abuse she has been receiving online, and the constant death threats which she described as detailed and specific.
She stated however that she will not back down from this fight, saying: 'I am not afraid of Donald Trump. He is a bully.'
Later in the interview Griffin said that her career was likely over now as a result of this incident, and that President Trump had 'broke' her, moments after she declared: 'There's a bunch of old white guys trying to silence me!'
Griffin at another point in the press conference declared that this would not be happening to her if she was a 'white man.'
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She is playing the victim now. Nice try, but it won't hide the fact that you are a no talent jack ass.
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So... the pathetic whinin g progressive hag feels justified in doing a photo campaign with the severed head of our president as hr. Center piece but feels "outrage" when people respond negatively???
YEP. SHE'S Another LYING, PROGRESIVE, ASSHOLE.
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She also said 6 months ago that she had no problem going after Barron Trump:
http://ntknetwork.com/kathy-griffin-has-no-problem-going-after-barron-trump/
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So... the pathetic whinin g progressive hag feels justified in doing a photo campaign with the severed head of our president as hr. Center piece but feels "outrage" when people respond negatively???
YEP. SHE'S Another LYING, PROGRESIVE, ASSHOLE.
She's the person in traffic who flips you the bird when you honk at her for cutting you off. Yeah, I F'd up, so FU for noticing that I F'd up.
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Fair enough. While not a comedian, Ted Nugent comes to mind as an entertainer who says some pretty out-of-there stuff.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tNLmi0_216g
All that being said, Ms Griffin's stunt was, IMHO, way out of line.
Ted Nugent is an NRA Board Member and 2nd Amendment Activist, which is inherently political. The difference between Uncle Ted and Griffin is that he takes full responsibility for what he says, doesn't pretend to be the victim, and accepts the consequences of his actions.
She does none of those.
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When does any progressive accept responsibility for their actions???
Hilary anyone???
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Always the victim, never the perp.
I even heard a Dem commentator say that Repubs don't like Affirmative Action because "It gives them something to blame for their own failure to succeed in life."
Say what? Convoluted, man. Weird. Seeing the world through the victim lens must suck.