Post by: Lucifer on August 22, 2017, 08:02:05 AM
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According to author Leo Tolstoy, born at the very end of the Little Ice Age, in quite a cold country:
The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he already knows, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him.
Post by: Little Joe on August 22, 2017, 09:23:12 AM
https://www.spectator.com.au/2017/08/big-data-finds-the-medieval-warm-period-no-denial-here/And the internet has created a whole generation of people that know they are right because they read it on the internet.
What we need is a world-wide nuclear war, complete with giant EMP bursts.
Of course, I am joking.
Sort of.
A little bit.
Maybe.
Post by: Anthony on August 22, 2017, 09:55:05 AM
And the internet has created a whole generation of people that know they are right because they read it on the internet.
What we need is a world-wide nuclear war, complete with giant EMP bursts.
Of course, I am joking.
Sort of.
A little bit.
Maybe.
Of course nobody wants a nuclear war, but I think a few EMP's to show the little snowflakes what it is like to have true adversity, for a few months, to bring things back into perspective would be welcome. No phones, no lights, no motorcars, not a single luxury, like Robinson Crusoe, as primitive as can be!
Post by: Little Joe on August 22, 2017, 11:05:34 AM
Of course nobody wants a nuclear war, but I think a few EMP's to show the little snowflakes what it is like to have true adversity, for a few months, to bring things back into perspective would be welcome. No phones, no lights, no motorcars, not a single luxury, like Robinson Crusoe, as primitive as can be!Do we at least get Mary Anne?
Post by: Anthony on August 22, 2017, 11:18:54 AM
Do we at least get Mary Anne?
Even at a very young age it was Ginger for me. The correct answer is BOTH!!! ;D
Post by: nddons on August 22, 2017, 01:21:29 PM
Even at a very young age it was Ginger for me. The correct answer is BOTH!!! ;DI've always been a "date Ginger, marry Mary Anne" type of guy.
Post by: Number7 on August 22, 2017, 04:35:16 PM
Post by: Anthony on August 24, 2017, 06:44:19 AM
I've always been a "date Ginger, marry Mary Anne" type of guy.
And continue to "date" Ginger after the marriage. :)
Post by: Username on August 24, 2017, 10:55:35 AM
Post by: You Only Live Twice on August 24, 2017, 11:41:58 AM
Of course there are certain advantages to Mrs. Howell.
She was something before electricity.
Post by: Steingar on August 24, 2017, 02:06:25 PM
That said we have climate data going back hundreds of thousands of years, much of it in ice cores cut from the Arctic and from high glaciers. What we can say fairly unequivocally is that the climate change we are seeing currently is unprecedented in both its scope and speed.
Post by: Lucifer on August 24, 2017, 02:24:50 PM
What we can say fairly unequivocally is that the climate change we are seeing currently is unprecedented in both its scope and speed.
No, that's what you and the MMGW progressives are saying. The reality and facts just don't support it.
Post by: Username on August 24, 2017, 02:26:17 PM
That said we have climate data going back hundreds of thousands of years, much of it in ice cores cut from the Arctic and from high glaciers. What we can say fairly unequivocally is that the climate change we are seeing currently is unprecedented in both its scope and speed.
No.
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Together with a British colleagues, palaeobiologist Prof. Dr. Wolfgang Kießling and geosciences student Kilian Eichenseer, both from FAU, have published a pioneering study in Nature Communications explaining that the idea that environmental changes in the earth's past happened slowly in comparison to current, rapid climate change is wrong.
Read more at: https://phys.org/news/2015-11-global-fast-today.html#jCp
Post by: Little Joe on August 24, 2017, 02:31:42 PM
The link posted doesn't work for me, at least I don't get the intended content. I don't think anyone has denied that there has been climate change in the past, it would be daft to do so. We have historical records of the little Ice Age, for example.You are right nobody (or very few) question that the climate is, and has been changing, ever since there was a climate.
That said we have climate data going back hundreds of thousands of years, much of it in ice cores cut from the Arctic and from high glaciers. What we can say fairly unequivocally is that the climate change we are seeing currently is unprecedented in both its scope and speed.And how do you draw from that fact, that the change is being caused by man? Man may have had an insignificant impact, one way or the other, but "Cause" is a huge leap. And none of your scientists have proven that theory yet.
Just this weekend, I went up to see the total eclipse. I was totally amazed how cool it got for a short while when the sun was blocked. Man could not have done that if we tried.
I am not a climate scientist, and I do have a ton of respect for scientists in general, but when it comes to climate, they are just scratching the surface of real knowledge.
I may be convinced one day, when I see proof, but right now, all I hear is a bunch of dire and conflicting opinions.
Post by: Number7 on August 24, 2017, 05:44:33 PM
That's all it is. One big money grab by criminally dishonest liberal democrats.
Post by: You Only Live Twice on August 24, 2017, 07:45:47 PM
It is impossible for intelligent people to buy into the AlGore bullshit because EVERY SINGLE PREDICTION he has made has failed to happen. He's like the other scam artists in other areas of life, like the end-of-world is about to occur, so send your money to his church really fast to get a seat in Heaven. It's an unimaginative scam ramped out by loons in academia and thieves trying to steal tax money.
That's all it is. One big money grab by criminally dishonest liberal democrats.
Problem is they have millions of willing customers.
Post by: Anthony on August 25, 2017, 05:54:25 AM
It is impossible for intelligent people to buy into the AlGore bullshit because EVERY SINGLE PREDICTION he has made has failed to happen. He's like the other scam artists in other areas of life, like the end-of-world is about to occur, so send your money to his church really fast to get a seat in Heaven. It's an unimaginative scam ramped out by loons in academia and thieves trying to steal tax money.
That's all it is. One big money grab by criminally dishonest liberal democrats.
All true, but many people want to make themselves FEEL better, and like the have a purpose in life. Man Made Climate Change gives them this purpose, and a feeling of self importance, and relevance. I believe this is why the Hollywood elite love it so much. When you pretend 24/7 for your job, then I guess life becomes pretty meaningless, so you develop causes in which to be "real".
Post by: Rush on August 25, 2017, 08:39:44 AM