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Spin Zone => Spin Zone => Topic started by: President-Elect Bob Noel on January 27, 2016, 09:22:48 AM

Title: something even worse than a hillary presidency
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on January 27, 2016, 09:22:48 AM

the B**** appointing obama to the SCOTUS

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/clinton-considers-nominating-obama-to-supreme-court/article/2581521?custom_click=rss


she would be trying to turn the court into dumb and dumber (which would parallel the people that voted for her)


Title: Re: something even worse than a hillary presidency
Post by: PaulS on January 27, 2016, 09:33:38 AM
That is scary.
Title: Re: something even worse than a hillary presidency
Post by: Lucifer on January 27, 2016, 09:39:09 AM
The McConnell Senate would affirm his nomination as well.
Title: Re: something even worse than a hillary presidency
Post by: Anthony on January 27, 2016, 09:53:40 AM
That is scary.

It is worse than scary Paul.  It means the end of our country. 
Title: Re: something even worse than a hillary presidency
Post by: nddons on January 27, 2016, 10:10:34 AM

It is worse than scary Paul.  It means the end of our country.

Bingo.
Title: Re: something even worse than a hillary presidency
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on January 27, 2016, 10:43:47 AM
I wonder if he would even consider it.  Quite a circus with the SS detail around all the time, etc. 
Title: Re: something even worse than a hillary presidency
Post by: nddons on January 27, 2016, 11:12:18 AM

I wonder if he would even consider it.  Quite a circus with the SS detail around all the time, etc.

With his ego, he's probably only take it if he could be Chief Justice.
Title: Re: something even worse than a hillary presidency
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on January 27, 2016, 11:19:44 AM
Hold the phone.  Talked with my liberal friend yesterday and she broke her Don't Discuss It mode to say she has Clinton fatigue, O-Care is bleeding her retirement funds, she doesn't want Sanders, and is completely disgusted with all elected officials.  Is considering Rubio!  Folks, this is big news. See what your liberal friends might be driven to actually SAY out loud!
Title: Re: something even worse than a hillary presidency
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on January 27, 2016, 11:26:00 AM
Hold the phone.  Talked with my liberal friend yesterday and she broke her Don't Discuss It mode to say she has Clinton fatigue, O-Care is bleeding her retirement funds, she doesn't want Sanders, and is completely disgusted with all elected officials.  Is considering Rubio!  Folks, this is big news. See what your liberal friends might be driven to actually SAY out loud!

some sing a different tune when payment for the liberal crap starts coming out of their own pocket.

Sadly, others are so stupid they don't notice (or don't have the courage to admit they were wrong).

Title: Re: something even worse than a hillary presidency
Post by: Mase on January 27, 2016, 02:52:11 PM
1.  Obama pardons Hillary, in the manner that Ford pardoned Nixon.
2.  Hillary wins,  nominates Obama for the Supremes.
3.  The Senate caves.
4.  We are doomed.
Title: Re: something even worse than a hillary presidency
Post by: Johnh on January 27, 2016, 03:15:38 PM
1.  Obama pardons Hillary, in the manner that Ford pardoned Nixon.
2.  Hillary wins,  nominates Obama for the Supremes.
3.  The Senate caves.
4.  We are doomed.
I sure picked the wrong day to quit drinking. 

That lasted about 9 hours.  But just the thought of Obama on the SC is enough to knock me off the wagon.
Title: Re: something even worse than a hillary presidency
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on January 27, 2016, 07:10:46 PM
Hold the phone.  Talked with my liberal friend yesterday and she broke her Don't Discuss It mode to say she has Clinton fatigue, O-Care is bleeding her retirement funds, she doesn't want Sanders, and is completely disgusted with all elected officials.  Is considering Rubio!  Folks, this is big news. See what your liberal friends might be driven to actually SAY out loud!

My sister works in a factory that makes plastic parts.  She is not educated and does QC work for them.  She admits to being more Liberal than anything.  She was down here the week before Thanksgiving and we had a chance to talk about politics a bit.  She likes Trump, likes that he is not P.C. in nature, speaks his mind and likes his stance on immigration.
Title: Re: something even worse than a hillary presidency
Post by: Dav8or on January 27, 2016, 08:32:19 PM
From the above linked article-

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Clinton added that she believes the Supreme Court is "heading in the wrong direction" due to the right-leaning justices President George W. Bush appointed.

I didn't know the Supreme Court was supposed to have a "direction". I thought the idea was to nominate people that knew a lot about the Constitution, historical background and law in general with the idea being to preserve the document and it's intent as long as possible? With people believing the Constitution is supposed t have a direction, we might as well tear the thing up and go with which ever party wins gets to do whatever they want for as long as they are in power.

With this attitude, and I suspect the right wing has it too, is it any wonder we have "activist judges"?
Title: Re: something even worse than a hillary presidency
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on January 27, 2016, 10:35:34 PM
From the above linked article-

I didn't know the Supreme Court was supposed to have a "direction". I thought the idea was to nominate people that knew a lot about the Constitution, historical background and law in general with the idea being to preserve the document and it's intent as long as possible? With people believing the Constitution is supposed t have a direction, we might as well tear the thing up and go with which ever party wins gets to do whatever they want for as long as they are in power.

With this attitude, and I suspect the right wing has it too, is it any wonder we have "activist judges"?


I believe the "right wing" is much more about judges not legistlating from the bench, rather the judges should be (what's the phrase?) Constitutionalists, if I'm using that term correctly.

I agree that the SCOTUS (and any court) should not have a "direction."  So hillary talking about the "direction" of SCOTUS is yet another example of why she is completely unfit for the office of the President of the US.





Title: Re: something even worse than a hillary presidency
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on January 28, 2016, 06:38:45 AM
From the above linked article-

I didn't know the Supreme Court was supposed to have a "direction". I thought the idea was to nominate people that knew a lot about the Constitution, historical background and law in general with the idea being to preserve the document and it's intent as long as possible? With people believing the Constitution is supposed t have a direction, we might as well tear the thing up and go with which ever party wins gets to do whatever they want for as long as they are in power.

With this attitude, and I suspect the right wing has it too, is it any wonder we have "activist judges"?

That is the way it should be.  I don't think it has been that way in a long time.
Title: Re: something even worse than a hillary presidency
Post by: Anthony on January 28, 2016, 07:13:18 AM
That is the way it should be.  I don't think it has been that way in a long time.

It seems our society has "progressed" to a point where it is OK to politicize everything including our Founding Principles.  The Ends Justify the Means to our Progressive elite.  It is OK to violate the Constitution, and act un-statesmen like.  It is also OK for the Courts on every level to social engineer based on their personal "FEELINGS".  A lot of it is white guilt, and attempting to right perceived past wrongs.  What happens is out Constitution continues to become more, and more meaningless, and that has held the fabric of this nation together since the beginning.   
Title: Re: something even worse than a hillary presidency
Post by: JeffDG on January 28, 2016, 07:24:36 AM
It seems our society has "progressed" to a point where it is OK to politicize everything including our Founding Principles.


Honestly, yes.  It is OK to politicize our Founding Principles.  The issue with Progressives is that they aren't honest about it.


If you want to repeal the first amendment, go ahead and propose doing so.  Don't say "We need to get money out of politics." (McCain-Feingold attack on free speech) or "We need to get religion out of politics." (Attack on the Free Exercise clause)


I actually have a lot more respect for Sanders because he's up front about being against the economic system that built the country.  I think he's wrong, and that his "solutions" would be devastating to this country, but at least he's honest about what he wants to do.  Unlike Clinton who wants to tear it down, but is dishonest about it.


Back to the original point.  I don't believe in having "sacred cows" that cannot ever be challenged.  And that applies to the founding principles too.  The framers were not perfect men, and they understood that, and provided a mechanism for correcting errors (hint to progs...it's Article V, not Article III).
Title: Re: something even worse than a hillary presidency
Post by: pilot_dude on January 28, 2016, 07:28:50 AM
From the above linked article-

I didn't know the Supreme Court was supposed to have a "direction". I thought the idea was to nominate people that knew a lot about the Constitution, historical background and law in general with the idea being to preserve the document and it's intent as long as possible? With people believing the Constitution is supposed t have a direction, we might as well tear the thing up and go with which ever party wins gets to do whatever they want for as long as they are in power.

With this attitude, and I suspect the right wing has it too, is it any wonder we have "activist judges"?
Winner!
Title: Re: something even worse than a hillary presidency
Post by: pilot_dude on January 28, 2016, 07:30:50 AM

Honestly, yes.  It is OK to politicize our Founding Principles.  The issue with Progressives is that they aren't honest about it.


If you want to repeal the first amendment, go ahead and propose doing so.  Don't say "We need to get money out of politics." (McCain-Feingold attack on free speech) or "We need to get religion out of politics." (Attack on the Free Exercise clause)


I actually have a lot more respect for Sanders because he's up front about being against the economic system that built the country.  I think he's wrong, and that his "solutions" would be devastating to this country, but at least he's honest about what he wants to do.  Unlike Clinton who wants to tear it down, but is dishonest about it.


Back to the original point. I don't believe in having "sacred cows" that cannot ever be challenged.  And that applies to the founding principles too.  The framers were not perfect men, and they understood that, and provided a mechanism for correcting errors (hint to progs...it's Article V, not Article III).
Bold added
Sacred cows make the best hamburgers
Title: Re: something even worse than a hillary presidency
Post by: JeffDG on January 28, 2016, 07:33:33 AM
Bold added
Sacred cows make the best hamburgers


That right there was damned funny!
Title: Re: something even worse than a hillary presidency
Post by: Anthony on January 28, 2016, 07:34:50 AM
From the above linked article-

I didn't know the Supreme Court was supposed to have a "direction". I thought the idea was to nominate people that knew a lot about the Constitution, historical background and law in general with the idea being to preserve the document and it's intent as long as possible? With people believing the Constitution is supposed t have a direction, we might as well tear the thing up and go with which ever party wins gets to do whatever they want for as long as they are in power.

With this attitude, and I suspect the right wing has it too, is it any wonder we have "activist judges"?

Another post of the year.  You're on a roll. 
Title: Re: something even worse than a hillary presidency
Post by: President in Exile YOLT on January 28, 2016, 06:42:12 PM

I believe the "right wing" is much more about judges not legistlating from the bench, rather the judges should be (what's the phrase?) Constitutionalists, if I'm using that term correctly.

I agree that the SCOTUS (and any court) should not have a "direction."  So hillary talking about the "direction" of SCOTUS is yet another example of why she is completely unfit for the office of the President of the US.
As if we need more...