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Spin Zone => Spin Zone => Topic started by: JeffDG on January 30, 2016, 11:05:42 AM

Title: OK, we can shut down the Republican Primary race now
Post by: JeffDG on January 30, 2016, 11:05:42 AM
The winner has been decreed:


http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/31/opinion/sunday/a-chance-to-reset-the-republican-race.html?_r=0
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Gov. John Kasich of Ohio, though a distinct underdog, is the only plausible choice for Republicans tired of the extremism and inexperience on display in this race.
Title: Re: OK, we can shut down the Republican Primary race now
Post by: Lucifer on January 30, 2016, 11:21:13 AM
2 nights ago on MSNBC an "expert" stated that Bush will be the eventual nominee.

The Dems are hoping and praying for Jeb to get the nomination, so much so they are going delusional.
Title: Re: OK, we can shut down the Republican Primary race now
Post by: PaulS on January 30, 2016, 01:51:27 PM
You actually read that rag.
Title: Re: OK, we can shut down the Republican Primary race now
Post by: JeffDG on January 30, 2016, 03:44:32 PM

You actually read that rag.

I read it for the funny pages...i.e. the editorials.
Title: Re: OK, we can shut down the Republican Primary race now
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on January 30, 2016, 06:22:03 PM
Did you know his dad was a mailman?    ::)
Title: Re: OK, we can shut down the Republican Primary race now
Post by: You Only Live Twice on January 30, 2016, 07:47:56 PM
2 nights ago on MSNBC an "expert" stated that Bush will be the eventual nominee.


He must have seen a leaked script.
Title: Re: OK, we can shut down the Republican Primary race now
Post by: Dav8or on January 30, 2016, 08:14:04 PM
Not a bad analysis of the situation and can't say I disagree with any of it, but the basics of politics is, you need to have support of your constituents to get elected. The conservatives clearly don't want to support Kasich. Probably because he is running a reasonable race without inflammatory rhetoric and outrageous claims.

Sorry, the liberals at the NY Times don't get to pick the Republican candidate, but at the same time it is too bad that Kasich gets so little support.
Title: Re: OK, we can shut down the Republican Primary race now
Post by: nddons on January 30, 2016, 10:02:14 PM
Not a bad analysis of the situation and can't say I disagree with any of it, but the basics of politics is, you need to have support of your constituents to get elected. The conservatives clearly don't want to support Kasich. Probably because he is running a reasonable race without inflammatory rhetoric and outrageous claims.

Sorry, the liberals at the NY Times don't get to pick the Republican candidate, but at the same time it is too bad that Kasich gets so little support.

There's a reason Kasich doesn't get support, and it is NOT because he doesn't engage in "inflammatory rhetoric and outrageous claims." 
Title: Re: OK, we can shut down the Republican Primary race now
Post by: Dav8or on January 31, 2016, 10:33:05 AM
There's a reason Kasich doesn't get support, and it is NOT because he doesn't engage in "inflammatory rhetoric and outrageous claims."

OK. Now for the second part of your post. What are those reasons?
Title: Re: OK, we can shut down the Republican Primary race now
Post by: You Only Live Twice on January 31, 2016, 10:56:07 AM
OK. Now for the second part of your post. What are those reasons?

RINO
Title: Re: OK, we can shut down the Republican Primary race now
Post by: MarkZ on January 31, 2016, 11:12:32 AM
Given his gubernatorial record, Kasich is anything but a RINO. 


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Title: Re: OK, we can shut down the Republican Primary race now
Post by: Lucifer on January 31, 2016, 11:19:02 AM
He's just another career politician, ready to fall in line with whatever the GOP "elites" dictate for him to do.
Title: Re: OK, we can shut down the Republican Primary race now
Post by: Dav8or on January 31, 2016, 12:10:31 PM
RINO

Shouldn't this dumb acronym be CINO and not RINO? After all, historically Republicans have often negotiated and compromised with the other side to get things done and accommodate their constituents. In addition, if the majority of Republicans are establishment and not to your liking because they are not conservative enough, shouldn't you be saying they are Conservative In Name Only? Obviously they are Republican, it's just you don't really want Republican politicians anymore, you want hard core conservatives to be your politicians.

So, what are the egregious things that Kasich has done to shame the Republican party? 
Title: Re: OK, we can shut down the Republican Primary race now
Post by: You Only Live Twice on January 31, 2016, 08:08:51 PM
Shouldn't this dumb acronym be CINO and not RINO? After all, historically Republicans have often negotiated and compromised with the other side to get things done and accommodate their constituents. In addition, if the majority of Republicans are establishment and not to your liking because they are not conservative enough, shouldn't you be saying they are Conservative In Name Only? Obviously they are Republican, it's just you don't really want Republican politicians anymore, you want hard core conservatives to be your politicians.

So, what are the egregious things that Kasich has done to shame the Republican party?

Big time panderer to illegals, I mean "guest workers."
Title: Re: OK, we can shut down the Republican Primary race now
Post by: Anthony on February 01, 2016, 03:38:21 AM
Rule of Law.

Make the Constitution Matter.

Stop Social Engineering to right perceived past wrongs.

Stop raising tax rates, levying fees, and making government a for profit entity for the elite, and workers.

Enforce our borders.

Provide for our AMERICAN DEFENSE.
Title: Re: OK, we can shut down the Republican Primary race now
Post by: Dav8or on February 02, 2016, 11:45:21 AM
Big time panderer to illegals, I mean "guest workers."

Difference of opinion I guess. I find his views on immigration very pragmatic and much like my own.
Title: Re: OK, we can shut down the Republican Primary race now
Post by: Number7 on February 02, 2016, 11:49:37 AM
I will never forget Kascich declaring, at the GOP debate, "Think of the CHILDREN, People!"
He lost me right there. I thought I was watching Bill Clinton.
Title: Re: OK, we can shut down the Republican Primary race now
Post by: Mr Pou on February 02, 2016, 01:10:41 PM
Rule of Law.

Make the Constitution Matter.

Stop Social Engineering to right perceived past wrongs.

Stop raising tax rates, levying fees, and making government a for profit entity for the elite, and workers.

Enforce our borders.

Provide for our AMERICAN DEFENSE.

Keep thinking like that and it's off to Room 101 for you... ;)
Title: Re: OK, we can shut down the Republican Primary race now
Post by: You Only Live Twice on February 02, 2016, 05:27:51 PM
I will never forget Kascich declaring, at the GOP debate, "Think of the CHILDREN, People!"
He lost me right there. I thought I was watching Bill Clinton.

I feel your pain.
Title: Re: OK, we can shut down the Republican Primary race now
Post by: Anthony on February 03, 2016, 04:53:07 AM
Keep thinking like that and it's off to Room 101 for you... ;)

I don't think so.  I have guns.   ;D
Title: Re: OK, we can shut down the Republican Primary race now
Post by: Anthony on February 03, 2016, 04:54:45 AM
I will never forget Kascich declaring, at the GOP debate, "Think of the CHILDREN, People!"
He lost me right there. I thought I was watching Bill Clinton.

I like Kasich, as I think he's done a good job as Ohio Governor, and I use to hear his radio show, and watch him on Fox.  However, he has said some very liberal things as I think he is trying to position himself as a "moderate".  Dumb. 
Title: Re: OK, we can shut down the Republican Primary race now
Post by: Mr Pou on February 03, 2016, 05:18:38 AM
I don't think so.  I have guns.   ;D

Yeah, too bad more people can't connect the dots...
Title: Re: OK, we can shut down the Republican Primary race now
Post by: Anthony on February 03, 2016, 05:46:56 AM
Yeah, too bad more people can't connect the dots...

Well us Pennsylvanians have a bit of a history about that. 
Title: Re: OK, we can shut down the Republican Primary race now
Post by: JeffDG on February 03, 2016, 07:24:32 AM
Well us Pennsylvanians have a bit of a history about that.
You bitter clingers.
Title: Re: OK, we can shut down the Republican Primary race now
Post by: bartmc on February 03, 2016, 09:44:45 PM
Shouldn't this dumb acronym be CINO and not RINO? After all, historically Republicans have often negotiated and compromised with the other side to get things done and accommodate their constituents. In addition, if the majority of Republicans are establishment and not to your liking because they are not conservative enough, shouldn't you be saying they are Conservative In Name Only? Obviously they are Republican, it's just you don't really want Republican politicians anymore, you want hard core conservatives to be your politicians.

So, what are the egregious things that Kasich has done to shame the Republican party?

I love how..simply wanting a balanced budget, debt paid down, less government enchroachment on our lives ( hello gas cans ) is now considered "hard core conservative". I guess in the context of Hil or Bern...that's a fair enough categorization.
Title: Re: OK, we can shut down the Republican Primary race now
Post by: Anthony on February 03, 2016, 10:11:55 PM
Oh yeah Bart is here!!!
Title: Re: OK, we can shut down the Republican Primary race now
Post by: Dav8or on February 03, 2016, 10:37:25 PM
I love how..simply wanting a balanced budget, debt paid down, less government enchroachment on our lives ( hello gas cans ) is now considered "hard core conservative". I guess in the context of Hil or Bern...that's a fair enough categorization.

Oh brother. Is that all conservatives want? Just those few simple things?

No, conservatives have a strong opinion on everything and the "hard core" ones refuse to compromise on any of those opinions.