PILOT SPIN
Spin Zone => Spin Zone => Topic started by: Rush on August 21, 2018, 07:16:21 PM
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Mansplaining truth and reality to idiot feminists:
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Feminism is a place for ugly women to band together in their hatred of of good looking men, because they were too ugly to get the hot guys.
If you strip away the stupid, pandering, and self indulgent nonsense, you have angry women who didn’t get asked to the prom and spend the rest of their lives hating men for it.
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boy that shit about rom-coms was dead straight on. We even have a recent example right here on our own little forum.
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You’d better not be referring to me and Oshkosh. >:(
I watched the track, cheered him on, sympathized when he got stuck in two Minnesota towns waiting for weather, and even bought him a few Airventure 2018 items since I knew he probably wouldn’t. And welcomed him home, and adore him and appreciate him as always.
And so if you’re NOT referring to me, I guess I just really said too much ...
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I am REALLY reluctant to jump in the middle of this. And have managed to refrain until today. But curiosity is getting the bettter of my good judgment. I in no way at all thought of Becky's Osh thread an example of the kind of women that guy is railing against. Whatsoever. Am having trouble connecting those dots, so I tried to go reread that thread but can't find it. Becky did you delete it? (Do we even have the power to delete threads?) From memory all I can think of is that Becky was concerned for his safety or something and asking for help in dealing with those feelings. Those feelings are in no way invalid but I didn't see her trying to force him not to go. I recall saying, buy plenty of life insurance on him then let him do what he wants. But that's got limits. I would not for example "let" my husband go camping on a grizzly bear trail. (Timothy Treadwell). If my man insisted on that, I would find another man.
As in all things there is a reasonable zone. What I love about this guy's video is he is pushing back against extremist feminist stupidity. But his own position could become extremist in the reverse. Some of these guys in the growing Mansphere are going too far in the other direction. It's actually biologically normal for females to want males to take the dangerous risks for them in jobs and defense for example. Because females, evolutionarily, are continually vulnerable with pregnancies and nursing young. Birth control has changed that drastically but reliable birth control has only been around barely a century. It's going to take millennia for our instincts to catch up.
This particular guy does not seem to be saying he minds taking the dangers for his woman, on the contrary, he is saying that what he minds is women berating him for it, for being his macho daredevil self which is his biological program. And not appreciating men for this, and most of all he is saying the romcoms nurture a complete fantasy about it; that men should do these thing for the woman alone rather than for the family unit in protecting his own issue. Big difference.
And he is saying men should rightly receive more financial compensation for it (not just danger but simply working more and being more productive) because that is the correct supply-demand price point, where as these feminists want to take his rightly earned money and give it to them for what - just because they are female. And that is to elevate them to a higher value than a man - a thing very unnatural and wrong. These feminists don't want equality, they want to oppress men.
Romcoms might be creating unrealistic expectations and causing problems when we have to deal with real life, where "love" doesn't carry us happily through a lifetime of living under each other's feet, and I dare say women buy it more readily than do men. This is a real problem as we are swimming in fiction - not just romcoms- another pet peeve I have is the female physically combatting a larger male as if well matched in skill and strength, in fiction and video games. This irks me no end it has become so pervasive that young women nowadays go around claiming they don't need any protecting, as if they actually believe they could defeat a male assailant in a hand to hand struggle. That mindless stupidity only encourages further erosion of the 2nd Amendment. Women in total denial of their own weakness relative to men, thoughtlessly implanted into their subconscious by shows and video games depicting females with strength stats indistinguishable from males'. Nuts.
I might be getting off track so but yeah I never saw Becky as one of these fruitcakes. It is true that women have an overall tendency toward physical caution greater than men, on average, and that translates to exerting some pressure on their men not to do things too risky but I see that as biologically normal and not a problem within bounds, and I didn't sense Becky going out of reasonable bounds. And like I said, women actually want and like their men to be macho and take risks... to a point. Like many things in marriage you come to a compromise. Marriages with either the man or the woman wielding all the power are problematic, it works both ways.
The problem with the feminists is that they are hypocrites. They stop their men from doing the things men want to do (take risks and hence advance technology, kill food or fight enemies) while simultaneously expecting men to automatically do all these things on demand, and berating them for it at the same time. Feminists view men as despicable slaves to be used but also despised for the very traits they're being exploited for. This is a minority of bitter women that truly feel this way but their ideas are brainwashing the young generations. Unless I'm missing something I don't see Becky fitting either of those profiles??
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Before I was married, I did some pretty dangerous things. That's not bragging, but it is a fact of my history that I have spent time in things where people have been killed, and maimed, and I've lost my share of pals from that kind of behavior. Given we are on an aviation board, and notwithstanding that others here don't believe me, I did compete at the lower level of aerobatic pilot. There are other things, times and places that will remain unsaid.
I've had the 'eye roll' or even more from several women I was with, who after some period of time together felt they should express their own opinion about my chosen way of life and enjoyment. Those women are no longer with me of course. This is something that unless one is a blood relative, guys just do NOT do to each other, ever. Now, after the fact insulting, and after the fact eye rolls from another guy are part and parcel of the culture of 'boy - you was a stupid shit for that' kind of camaraderie. What the guy was mansplaining in part of the video.
There's a famous scene in the movie Jaws, where the two guys are sitting down in the cabin drinking and showing each other their shark scars. Sometimes, after plenty of grog, this is the kind of stuff guys do. But - like the chief in the movie, you don't get to do it, if you haven't been there(he looks at his appendix scar, and decides to shut up) and done that.
We go do guy things. Some of those guy things may not be completely, or even marginally for the advancement of kids, family, fido, mortgage, and health. Some guys go a bit too far, and kill themselves, and their families and dog are left adrift. The alternative is living a life under the watchful eye of some hen. It's not black and white, but there are definite lines that aught not to be crossed.
There's another semi-famous deal where a guy misunderstands when his woman says; 'go ahead, do whatever the fuck you want to do', which they interpret literally, rather than the actual meaning of; 'if you do that, I will make you regret it for the next xx years you miserable shit'. If we thought, for even a short time that the concern was over our male well-being, rather than the more likely concern over the meal ticket, I guess it would be somewhat ok. But in most cases, the woman has not only her and fido and kids to think about, but also how it will look to the other women if her man goes out and actually does what he wants, and is somehow knocked out of the running for keeping up with the Jones'es. No woman wants to be wheeling her man around in a wheelchair and mopping up his slobber/drool after he's shown his manly ways, and things went pear-shaped. And for that, I can't blame them.
When I got married, there were a lot, a lot, a lot of things I gave up. And - for the most part it was worth it. Almost 20 years I didn't so much as touch an airplane. Sure, I looked at them, and once in a while stopped by the local strip and moseyed around, and stuff but I did the right thing and stayed away from temptation until my familial dues were pretty much sorted out. This is semi-responsible guy behavior too, and I admit - some guys don't get it. All I can say to the women in a situation like this is - either put up with it - SILENTLY or get out while the getting is possible. I've been married > 30 years. Made a few mistakes along the way, and paid my price, and things are still pretty good. Fortunately for me, I still have my balls, because I made relatively smart choices, and when I didn't, the mistakes were mine, and I owned up.
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... blah blah blah ... WHEELCHAIR AND DROOL!!!
Oh my gosh, gotta get him to stop flying RIGHT NOW!!!
But no, you and Rush raise some interesting points and thoughts.
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There are so many issues here and I want to talk about them but hardly know where to begin.
Invflatspin, you sound much like my husband.
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Feminism has become, for many uninformed women, a place to indulge their never ending need to engage in “all men are pigs,” rhetoric.
The blabbering cacophony of hypocrisy that was the feminist march a couple of winters ago was nothing but a bunch of stupid women complaining about how hard it is to have ovaries and deal with menstruation once a month... remember “the blood on my sheets...” over and over an over?
Somehow modern snowflake feminists think that men a pre guilty of somehow monkeying with the building blocks of life and forcing those poor, stupid, brainless, self-centered, self-righteous, whiners to be born with a vagina instead of a penis.