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Spin Zone => Spin Zone => Topic started by: Lucifer on October 24, 2018, 06:29:49 AM

Title: The World In 2018
Post by: Lucifer on October 24, 2018, 06:29:49 AM
Title: Re: The World In 2018
Post by: Rush on October 24, 2018, 08:21:39 AM
The part about a child being born online reminds me:

My sister was awakened at 11:00 pm by a text ding. It was a group text by someone she knew 20 years ago and hardly speaks with anymore, announcing the birth of their grandchild. Her phone blew up with constant texts for about 24 hours until she get into the settings and figured out how to block it (she's not real smartphone savvy.) She won't power her phone down because of possible work or personal emergencies. Now that we don't have land lines I'm sure a lot of people need to keep their phones on and beside the bed. But why would someone announce the birth of a grandchild - not even your own - the minute it happens in the middle of the night to EVERYONE THEY EVER KNEW?!?

I am fully aware of the addictive nature of technology and this is the reason I need to take hard breaks from these forums. I get too much into discussions, especially the really good ones like immigration and the drug war. It's okay when life is slow but suddenly a lot of real life work comes in and I need to get started on Christmas, I need to simply drop those topics entirely or I will spend hours on them, and sometimes I need to leave the board completely.

But this time I am hanging around enough to see what happens with Bryan with a Y (I finally found "Just Plane Silly" and figured out who he was.) And to see how many more PoA members come over here. ;D
Title: Re: The World In 2018
Post by: Steingar on October 24, 2018, 10:23:53 AM
Mostly old person's rant.  Yeah, kids check their phones a lot.  They do lots of other things too.
Title: Re: The World In 2018
Post by: asechrest on October 24, 2018, 01:26:05 PM
Didn't watch the video.

One of the brutalities of the social media generation is that they are unable to get away from social pressure. Used to be, you suffered through your social issues at school, then got to leave it at school and go home for the day. No longer. They can now be subjected to social difficulties every hour of every day. It's especially bad for girls because their social problems are less direct and more long-lasting and sinister than those of boys.
Title: Re: The World In 2018
Post by: Number7 on October 24, 2018, 01:36:50 PM
When the grandkids come we tell them that we are having a phone free day.

They leave their phones in the guest rooms and we take them on all day outings without the interruption, drama, and non-stop need to know what everyone is doing back home.

My wife came up with the idea and now they mention it almost as soon as they arrive.

Phones don't come to the table when we eat and we don't answer the house phone while we are eating.

Those are the house rules.
Title: Re: The World In 2018
Post by: asechrest on October 24, 2018, 01:55:45 PM
Not sure how old your grandkids are but after a certain age they won't look forward to "phone free" day.

We do enforce no phones at the dinner table. Period. And we did recently have a phone free half day outing, which started with attitude from both kids, but got better once we got there.
Title: Re: The World In 2018
Post by: Anthony on October 24, 2018, 02:41:46 PM
Didn't watch the video.

One of the brutalities of the social media generation is that they are unable to get away from social pressure. Used to be, you suffered through your social issues at school, then got to leave it at school and go home for the day. No longer. They can now be subjected to social difficulties every hour of every day. It's especially bad for girls because their social problems are less direct and more long-lasting and sinister than those of boys.

They CHOOSE to be subjected to social difficulties by constantly looking at their phone.  If they put it down the pressure, and difficulties GO AWAY.  Why can't Liberals take responsibility, and be accountable for their own actions?  These are things we are supposed to teach our kids.
Title: Re: The World In 2018
Post by: Little Joe on October 24, 2018, 03:21:42 PM
It's especially bad for girls because their social problems are less direct and more long-lasting and sinister than those of boys.
You are a misogynist sexist pig.
NTTIAWWT.
Title: Re: The World In 2018
Post by: Rush on October 24, 2018, 03:28:38 PM
They CHOOSE to be subjected to social difficulties by constantly looking at their phone.  If they put it down the pressure, and difficulties GO AWAY.  Why can't Liberals take responsibility, and be accountable for their own actions?  These are things we are supposed to teach our kids.

But even if they put it down the social media gossip and reputation destruction attacks on them will continue and now can extend way outside their local school. They can't just decide not to participate at all in social media because that's the platform all their peers use. If they don't participate they're outcast and will still be talked about. Asechrest is right about girls, they are horrible especially in middle school and high school. It's a time of having to learn the fine art of social skills. I sucked at it. I never belonged in the female cliques with their silly superficial groupthink. I stayed under the radar as much as I could. Thank God there was no internet when I was in school.
Title: Re: The World In 2018
Post by: Anthony on October 25, 2018, 04:44:43 AM
But even if they put it down the social media gossip and reputation destruction attacks on them will continue and now can extend way outside their local school. They can't just decide not to participate at all in social media because that's the platform all their peers use. If they don't participate they're outcast and will still be talked about. Asechrest is right about girls, they are horrible especially in middle school and high school. It's a time of having to learn the fine art of social skills. I sucked at it. I never belonged in the female cliques with their silly superficial groupthink. I stayed under the radar as much as I could. Thank God there was no internet when I was in school.

I agree with you that it will still go on behind their backs on social media even if they don't participate.  However, if you don't look at the social media, it can't anger you by what they are saying.  You MUST participate in order to view it.  It is still a choice they make.

I kept to myself a lot, but was active in sports, and other activities which allowed me to have friends, and acquaintances if I wanted them.  Nobody bothered me, and I didn't really hang out in a clique, so never experienced the group think, nor was bullied.  I made the CHOICE not to engage in that crap.
Title: Re: The World In 2018
Post by: Mr Pou on October 25, 2018, 04:51:36 AM
The part about a child being born online reminds me:

My sister was awakened at 11:00 pm by a text ding.

Do Not Disturb, set automatically to enable between 10pm and 7am, only those on my favorites list (which is only my wife and daughter) can get through during those times.
Title: Re: The World In 2018
Post by: SkyDog58 on October 25, 2018, 01:45:46 PM
Interesting video and there is a ton of truth to it though it is a wee bit dramatic.  People cannot seem to put their phones down.  My sweet wife who is highly intelligent as evidenced by her choice of life partners is hooked on her phone and social media.  I try my best to get her to put it down by trying harder to be a more conversational type of person when we are together but it is a struggle as I have never been a great talker.  More than just a few seconds of silence and it's back to the phone.  Still, she isn't as bad as some other people I know and people I have observed.  I personally am involved in very little social media.  Currently I am only on this site, POA, and LinkedIn.   That's it.  I was on Facebook for about three years but dropped of of it about seven years ago and have not looked back.  I don't do twitter, instagram, or many of the others of that type.   I just don't see the appeal.  Hell, I'm not sure if I really see the appeal of the ones I am on. 
Title: Re: The World In 2018
Post by: Mr Pou on October 26, 2018, 04:21:31 AM
Currently I am only on this site, POA, and LinkedIn.   

I do this site, POA, and a very small closed mailing list with friends I've known for 30yrs+. Other than that, nope! Social media is a giant pacifier for the masses.