PILOT SPIN
Spin Zone => Spin Zone => Topic started by: nddons on February 04, 2016, 02:06:59 PM
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Ariens had made significant effort to accommodate Somali Muslim employees with prayer breaks. However, you can't halt production in an assembly line factory for unscheduled breaks, and the company could no longer accommodate them.
Disclosure: I've done some work for Ariens, and have walked that plant several times. I also own one of their great snowblowers. They seem to be a very good employer for that area.
http://m.jsonline.com/business/ariens-co-fires-seven-muslim-employees-over-unscheduled-prayer-breaks-b99663936z1-367535761.html
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Unscheduled breaks are just that, unscheduled and outside of company policy. You do so at your own risk (as I am typing this on company time).
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Prayer time is actually scheduled. There are charts and calendars that can be found that tells the exact time when you should have Salat for each latitude on the Earth on any given day. It is calculated based on the Earth-Solar relationship. If there was an open line of communication, this should have been communicated and agreed to.
OTOH, this is where I break with traditionalist on prayer. It is a very hardline approach to stop everything to break for prayer. I don't agree with implementing halt-ops in a manufacturing environment where you are a very small minority. It is selfish and unfair.
As a Muslim you have the option to forgo the prayer altogether or make it up later. They should have given great consideration to one of these options.
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Prayer time is actually scheduled. There are charts and calendars that can be found that tells the exact time when you should have Salat for each latitude on the Earth on any given day. It is calculated based on the Earth-Solar relationship.
(I'm not trying to be a smartass, but I'm curious...)
What would muslims do in orbit or on the moon or Mars?
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(I'm not trying to be a smartass, but I'm curious...)
What would muslims do in orbit or on the moon or Mars?
I don't think it's a smartass question, good one actually.
When I was on an orbiter mission, I thought about using GMT but instead went with a duty day schedule. When I went to Mars, I approximated by sectioning the day into 5 daily prayers during my waking hours.
*Note: I have never been to Mars, nor have I (yet) been in space.
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I don't think it's a smartass question, good one actually.
When I was on an orbiter mission, I thought about using GMT but instead went with a duty day schedule. When I went to Mars, I approximated by sectioning the day into 5 daily prayers during my waking hours.
*Note: I have never been to Mars, nor have I (yet) been in space.
Good lord, orbit would be tough, constantly having to figure out the direction to Mecca!
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Good lord, orbit would be tough, constantly having to figure out the direction to Mecca!
This is where prayer facing the Kahbah breaks down and begins to look eerily like idolatry. It's also why I don't get wrapped up into finding the direction for prayer. There are apps that will help you orient yourself for prayer based upon GPS lat/long coordinates and great circle magnetic direction. I just face where I think is the Atlantic Ocean.
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So,if you were on Mars, or somewhere enroute, how would you know when it was time? Mars's day is different, and there are no "days" or time enroute. And if you were moving fast enough, your clock would not reflect the appropriate time on Earth.
And how would you determine the right direction to face Mecca?
For that matter, a Jew in space moving at light speed would have no idea when the Sabbath was and would likely do work that day many times over, in violation of the strict interpretation of his religious tenets.
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So,if you were on Mars, or somewhere enroute, how would you know when it was time? Mars's day is different, and there are no "days" or time enroute. And if you were moving fast enough, your clock would not reflect the appropriate time on Earth.
And how would you determine the right direction to face Mecca?
For that matter, a Jew in space moving at light speed would have no idea when the Sabbath was and would likely do work that day many times over, in violation of the strict interpretation of his religious tenets.
Very insightful question.
Prayer is really about the relationship of the individual and his Creator. There is nothing that says you can't pray whatever time you like. Times were given so that as a community it would be understood when are those times most likely when the person is to not be disturbed and also times of congregational prayer. I suppose that in space, you would simply agree with other adherents when to have a congregational prayer; the purpose of which is the preservation of a sense of community.
As I type this, I am thinking about what time to leave work to make Jumah (Friday congregational prayer).
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OTOH, this is where I break with traditionalist on prayer. It is a very hardline approach to stop everything to break for prayer. I don't agree with implementing halt-ops in a manufacturing environment where you are a very small minority. It is selfish and unfair.
As a Muslim you have the option to forgo the prayer altogether or make it up later. They should have given great consideration to one of these options.
Yeah, but then there wouldn't be headlines and lawsuits. There could be a nice payday in this deal fro some and if they just quietly cave in to corporate demands, the transformation of America can't progress.
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I believe in the "clean hands" doctrine of law. You can't be an active participant in making chaos and sue someone for employing a solution to end it because it doesn't go your way.
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Good lord, orbit would be tough, constantly having to figure out the direction to Mecca!
That's easy: DOWN