PILOT SPIN
Spin Zone => Spin Zone => Topic started by: JeffDG on February 21, 2016, 10:36:43 AM
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http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/270200-trump-on-iraq-comments-who-knows-what-was-in-my-head
Dear Leader can't even tell what's going on inside his own skull.
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Didn't he think someone would call his previous statements to question when he started in politics? That's Politics 101. Sheesh.
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Didn't he think someone would call his previous statements to question when he started in politics? That's Politics 101. Sheesh.
I think he used the wrong verb tense in his line. "Who knows what is in my head?" would be more accurate.
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This just in, while world crumbles around him JeffDG still obsessed with Donald Trump.
In related news, Merriam Webster's to announce a new posterboy image for the word Pedantic in next edition of their iconic dictionary, film at 11.
Give it a rest already, between your hard-on for Trump and Jaybird's obsessed racist diatribes this place is hardly any fun.
'Gimp
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So, lacking the ability to defend his positions, the Trumpkins continue to say to his critics "SHUT UP!"
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So, lacking the ability to defend his positions, the Trumpkins continue to say to his critics "SHUT UP!"
They should be thankful they're not being waterboarded...
...or worse!
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So, lacking the ability to defend his positions, the Trumpkins continue to say to his critics "SHUT UP!"
Your diatribes are childish at best and totally lack substance.
If you could carry on a conversation as an adult and debate merits perhaps more would engage you. But as it stands now your obsession with Trump is just too overwhelming.
Give it a break.
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Your diatribes are childish at best and totally lack substance.
If you could carry on a conversation as an adult and debate merits perhaps more would engage you. But as it stands now your obsession with Trump is just too overwhelming.
Give it a break.
You calling me out for lacking substance.
That's hillarious. You've provided zero substance.
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So, lacking the ability to defend his positions, the Trumpkins continue to say to his critics "SHUT UP!"
And again, I am still not a Trump supporter, I am just tired of your endless bullshit hard-on obsession and your total inability to deal with his current success in the primaries.
I don't want you to shutup because you criticize him, I just wish you'd spend even 10% of the energy on something else, anything else, underwater basket weaving, your love for Klingon opera, your budding Bromance with the Bernster, why Hillary should never be President, don't really care - just ANYTHING else.
There is a reason that the terms One Trick Pony and One Hit Wonder are pejoratives - it gets old.
Simple fact of the matter is that Trump has garnered a substantial amount of support, across a wide audience and for a wide array of reasons and like it or not that is what it takes to win elections.
But there's only been 3 primaries so far, never mind Trump has more delegates than everyone else put together so far, he only has 3-4% of the total delegates needed, and Marco and Cruz are not going to drop out although Kasich and Carson soon should and I predict will (although Carson may go all the way if he can keep enough donations coming in to at least pretend to compete - and for good reason I am not ascribing any deviousness to him).
You may not agree with that support but to dismiss, deride and demean it in the ways you continue to do only shows you have no idea why he is actually so popular, but you are in good company in that it is a problem you share with essentially all of the mainstream media, the the Republican and Democrat establishments, basically everyone on K street, and all of his current opponents.
It's just tiresome Jeff, literally has cut down on the visits I make here because between your incessant harping and Jaybird's jihad this place really isn't as fun.
'Gimp
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So, lacking the ability to defend his positions, the Trumpkins continue to say to his critics "SHUT UP!"
It actually is stunning. You try to point out the clear and obvious and recent reversals of positions of a man who just recently became a Republican again and who donated hundreds of thousands to not only democratic candidates for an alleged political quid pro quo, which is illegal, but also $116,000 to the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee.
You try to point out words that he said, including recently, which totally contradict his 2015-2016 campaign positions, and you're told to shut up.
I guess it's good that you aren't a candidate yourself, or you would be sued by Trump for using his own words against him.
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There is a reason that the terms One Trick Pony and One Hit Wonder are pejoratives - it gets old.
Simple fact of the matter is that Trump has garnered a substantial amount of support, across a wide audience and for a wide array of reasons and like it or not that is what it takes to win elections.
Yet Dear Leader's unfavourable ratings are still in the 60's. He has a hard ceiling and can't seem to exceed it.
I am of the opinion that Donald J. Trump is the greatest threat to the conservative movement that currently exists, or has existed for at least a decade. He is running a cult-of-personality, and people seem to believe that he is a conservative. That means that for years to come, the proggies will point out stuff that Trump has said as evidence of GOP racism, sexism, all the other -isms, and beat conservatives over the head with it. He's a far greater threat to conservatism that Hillary is. Hillary doesn't claim to represent conservatives, and the proggies can't point to Hillary's statements as evidence that conservatives are stupid or evil. With Trump they can.
Right now, the GOP is in an existential fight. That fight is being played out in the primaries. I reserve the right to point out the continuing and moronic statements of Donald J. Trump in an effort to make at least a few of those who have been bamboozled by him to see him for what he is: A charlatan, and a con-man. If I should fail in this quest, the entirety of the conservative movement will be lost for at least a generation.
You say I'm a "One Trick Pony", but I say that I am focused on the existential threat to the republic.
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And again, I am still not a Trump supporter, I am just tired of your endless bullshit hard-on obsession and your total inability to deal with his current success in the primaries.
I don't want you to shutup because you criticize him, I just wish you'd spend even 10% of the energy on something else, anything else, underwater basket weaving, your love for Klingon opera, your budding Bromance with the Bernster, why Hillary should never be President, don't really care - just ANYTHING else.
There is a reason that the terms One Trick Pony and One Hit Wonder are pejoratives - it gets old.
Simple fact of the matter is that Trump has garnered a substantial amount of support, across a wide audience and for a wide array of reasons and like it or not that is what it takes to win elections.
But there's only been 3 primaries so far, never mind Trump has more delegates than everyone else put together so far, he only has 3-4% of the total delegates needed, and Marco and Cruz are not going to drop out although Kasich and Carson soon should and I predict will (although Carson may go all the way if he can keep enough donations coming in to at least pretend to compete - and for good reason I am not ascribing any deviousness to him).
You may not agree with that support but to dismiss, deride and demean it in the ways you continue to do only shows you have no idea why he is actually so popular, but you are in good company in that it is a problem you share with essentially all of the mainstream media, the the Republican and Democrat establishments, basically everyone on K street, and all of his current opponents.
It's just tiresome Jeff, literally has cut down on the visits I make here because between your incessant harping and Jaybird's jihad this place really isn't as fun.
'Gimp
Gimp, I respect your posts, but I think you're off base here. Jeff is seeing what many conservatives are seeing or believing about what I see is a Trojan horse candidate in Donald Trump.
Except for his strong immigration stance, I see and hear every one of his current positions, including the Second Amendment, to be in direct contradiction to positions that he had previously taken, including those taken fairly recently. Take any topic - the Gulf War, assault weapons, waiting periods, pro-choice, abortions, late-term abortions, Obamacare, the individual mandate, taxation, governmental spending - he is currently one standard rate 1 minute turn from where he used to be.
Worse, he is holding some positions that are simply NOT conservative positions. See eminent domain.
I am as passionate about this as anyone, and make no excuses for it. I don't think Jeff should either.
So to point these things out is not out of line in this debate in this election year. Nor is it out of line for Pilot Spin.
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Gimp, I respect your posts, but I think you're off base here. Jeff is seeing what many conservatives are seeing or believing about what I see is a Trojan horse candidate in Donald Trump.
Except for his strong immigration stance, I see and hear every one of his current positions, including the Second Amendment, to be in direct contradiction to positions that he had previously taken, including those taken fairly recently. Take any topic - the Gulf War, assault weapons, waiting periods, pro-choice, abortions, late-term abortions, Obamacare, the individual mandate, taxation, governmental spending - he is currently one standard rate 1 minute turn from where he used to be.
Worse, he is holding some positions that are simply NOT conservative positions. See eminent domain.
I am as passionate about this as anyone, and make no excuses for it. I don't think Jeff should either.
So to point these things out is not out of line in this debate in this election year. Nor is it out of line for Pilot Spin.
The idea of Trump, or anyone really, being able to pull off a 'trojan horse' candidacy, in the modern day, is laughable in my opinion - tinfoil hat kind of stuff.
It honestly bugs me that I end up coming off as an apologist for Trump, not because I don't respect him since I do, quite a bit after following his career/public life since the Art of the Deal, but moreso because it strikes me odd that some people seem to think he needs 'protection' or explanation. I don't say he is a Conservative, never have. I acknowledge that he has has held and in some cases still holds positions that are not party-line, I know he has donated to Democrat as well as Republican candidates over the years. But the sum total of his history is far more conservative than liberal, IMO, but absolutely more Republican than Democrat.
With respect to his speaking off the top of his head, I personally find it so refreshing that I give him a fair amount of latitude but definitely understand it puts some folks off. After so many years of fake people with fake stories and so on I prefer what I perceive as a more direct honesty even if it means holding and having to explain non-party-line positions - this is why I found the outsiders attractive this go 'round - Jindal, Carson, Fiorina and Trump.
The attitude displayed in Jeff's posts and in the mainstream media and from the establishment completely miss why most folks who I do know who are supporting Trump are doing so - dismissing them as unintelligent hate-filled racist rubes - basically the same view that Democrats have of the non-Democrat majority in the nation. I find it distasteful that we are using the same techniques and tactics we decry from the Left in describing/attacking our own.
I get people find Trump threatening on a number of levels, I know some folks don't trust him - and there are reasons for people to not support, even oppose him as a candidate for the Republican nomination - but there are still 4 other men running FOR the nomination - where is the energy to convince people to support one or more of them? There are still two crusty old socialists running for the Democrat nomination, where is the energy pointing out the dangers of their positions, etc.?
'Gimp
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http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/270200-trump-on-iraq-comments-who-knows-what-was-in-my-head
Dear Leader can't even tell what's going on inside his own skull.
Neither can his other personalities...