PILOT SPIN
Spin Zone => Spin Zone => Topic started by: Bob Noel on February 27, 2020, 07:05:14 AM
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There's an op-ed piece in today's Boston Herald bemoaning that media silence over attacks on GOP voters. WRT G Timm driving his car into a Republican Tent: "No teams of reporters were sent to uncover his dark motivations, ..."
I know one reason the media doesn't look into it, they already have internalized the hatred of anything not liberal. They already understand it. The media hates the GOP.
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I posted my "list" here many times, but the bottom line is the Media is at least 95% Democrat. It has become a joke. The are only a few publications, web sites, radio, talk show hosts and a FEW hosts on Fox News that lean conservative.
People get away with dismissing Rush, or Fox, etc. as "Far Right nutjobs" when they are actually more accurate than the NYT, Washpo and the vast majority of networks and cable news channels.
Just two examples of many that are conflicts of interest are Disney (ABC), and Comcast (NBC and MSNBC). Both solely Democrat supporters yet the pretend their "news" outlets are straight news and not the leftist propaganda we know.
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Well surprise, surprise, a darling of the Left, the Associated Press decides to be fair and balanced for once.
https://apnews.com/d36d6c4de29f4d04beda3db00cb46104
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Did you hear what that bitch Pelosi said about what Trump said about her in the press conference? That he shouldn’t use the virus to throw political barbs? After SHE did exactly that the day before! What a demented hypocrite.
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Did you hear what that bitch Pelosi said about what Trump said about her in the press conference? That he shouldn’t use the virus to throw political barbs? After SHE did exactly that the day before! What a demented hypocrite.
Projection. The leftist trademarked it.
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Did you hear what that bitch Pelosi said about what Trump said about her in the press conference? That he shouldn’t use the virus to throw political barbs? After SHE did exactly that the day before! What a demented hypocrite.
Well, pelosi is correct. President Trump shouldn't use the virus to throw policital barbs. Nobody should.
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Well, pelosi is correct. President Trump shouldn't use the virus to throw policital barbs. Nobody should.
Is fighting back not acceptable? Do you think Trump would use the virus to criticize democrats if they didn’t politicize it and use it as a Trump “gotcha” right out of the box?
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Is fighting back not acceptable? Do you think Trump would use the virus to criticize democrats if they didn’t politicize it and use it as a Trump “gotcha” right out of the box?
Of course fighting back is acceptable.
However, it is possible to fight back without coming across like a 12-year old. In fact, I would argue that is it more effective to fight back with class and dignity. Compare/contrast Winston Churchill and President Trump.
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Of course fighting back is acceptable.
However, it is possible to fight back without coming across like a 12-year old. In fact, I would argue that is it more effective to fight back with class and dignity. Compare/contrast Winston Churchill and President Trump.
This Winston Churchill?
When accused by one of them of being 'disgustingly drunk' the Conservative Prime Minister responded: 'My dear, you are ugly, and what’s more, you are disgustingly ugly. But tomorrow I shall be sober and you will still be disgustingly ugly.'
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This is why Trump is so hated by the leftist. He fights back. It’s the analogy of the school yard bully getting punched square on.
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I think Trump's public behavior on the matter is deplorable. I am thankful he didn't succeed in gutting the CDC, he did try. I think what the POTUS should say is that everything that can be done is being done, introduce the guy in charge and then step back. All Trump can do is brag about himself. All that said, the government is doing what it can. This virus has emerged and spread with a velocity I've never seen. There is a limit to what our government can do to stop it. I suspect Mother Nature will be far more effective.
I really hope the bug can be contained. With its fatality rate, if it really gets loose we'll loose a lot of Americans.
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I think Trump's public behavior on the matter is deplorable. I am thankful he didn't succeed in gutting the CDC, he did try. I think what the POTUS should say is that everything that can be done is being done, introduce the guy in charge and then step back. All Trump can do is brag about himself. All that said, the government is doing what it can. This virus has emerged and spread with a velocity I've never seen. There is a limit to what our government can do to stop it. I suspect Mother Nature will be far more effective.
I really hope the bug can be contained. With its fatality rate, if it really gets loose we'll loose a lot of Americans.
You're believing the Media/Democrat hype of which much of the medical/research apparatus is now a part. More hype, more danger, more grants and publications about how we need more research, more money devoted to it, and more government.
This is NOTHING. All hype, no substance. Go about your life, nothing will happen.
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I think Trump's public behavior on the matter is deplorable. I am thankful he didn't succeed in gutting the CDC, he did try. I think what the POTUS should say is that everything that can be done is being done, introduce the guy in charge and then step back. All Trump can do is brag about himself. All that said, the government is doing what it can. This virus has emerged and spread with a velocity I've never seen. There is a limit to what our government can do to stop it. I suspect Mother Nature will be far more effective.
I really hope the bug can be contained. With its fatality rate, if it really gets loose we'll loose a lot of Americans.
I don’t know what you mean about fatality rate. It’s not much worse than normal flu if at all. As I see it the only real problem, meaning the actual disease as opposed to the also actually real problem of a hysteria driven economic crash, is that nobody is immune to this thing. So when it hits a community, everybody gets sick within a short time frame and just sits at home for two weeks, so business and society has a major timeout. Things may only function at half capacity for a while until everyone recovers, minus the ancient nursing home inmates who account for the majority of the death rate.
That is, unless we make the mistake China did, and in a pointless effort to “contain the spread”, just completely shut down businesses and quarantine entire cities, which is the real cause of the economic disaster.
Paranoia about this mostly benign virus is the true threat, not the disease itself.
But if you know more than I do about the death rate, tell me. I am disturbed that I keep seeing the comparison of 2% covid-19 to .01% flu. But that’s apples and oranges. The 2% covid-19 is deaths per cases in China, and the .01% flu in the U.S. is deaths per population! Not the same scale, and different countries with different healthcare systems. Then there’s the fact that many more mild cases are going undetected that aren’t being included in the China rate. Where am I wrong here?
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I think Trump's public behavior on the matter is deplorable. I am thankful he didn't succeed in gutting the CDC, he did try.
No. He tried to reduce funding on chronic diseases and shift that funding to acute diseases, which is the CDC's primary mission.
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I really hope the bug can be contained. With its fatality rate, if it really gets loose we'll loose a lot of Americans.
weren't you the guy that claimed the bug isn't that big a deal?
(http://www.pilotspin.com/index.php?topic=4278.msg73545#msg73545)
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https://thebeaverton.com/2020/01/report-outbreak-of-idiocy-spreading-10000-times-faster-than-coronavirus/
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No. He tried to reduce funding on chronic diseases and shift that funding to acute diseases, which is the CDC's primary mission.
That wasn’t in Mikey’s talking points. Embarrassing for him.
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weren't you the guy that claimed the bug isn't that big a deal?
(http://www.pilotspin.com/index.php?topic=4278.msg73545#msg73545)
That was from different set of talking (babbling) points from his masters.
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Just imagine the outrage had this been a republican.
https://www.citizenfreepress.com/breaking/madame-speakers-dirty-little-secret/
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weren't you the guy that claimed the bug isn't that big a deal?
(http://www.pilotspin.com/index.php?topic=4278.msg73545#msg73545)
It isn't, unless you're old, infirm, or have cardiac or pulmonary issues. That said, if you have any of the aforementioned it is a really big deal, and potentially lethal. My concern is it has spread far more quickly than I ever could have anticipated, I suspect from the viral surface latency, though I'm in no way certain. Warm Spring weather should put the kibosh on it, most viruses don't like heat and humidity. But it will be back. The first outbreak of the Spanish Influenza was over in Spring. The second outbreak the next winter killed a half million Americans.
Wash your hands. Go where you're going to go, do what you're going to do. The fear associated with the virus is far worse than the virus itself. That said, this one might actually live up to some of the hype.
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In other news, weathermen are predicting rain, unless it doesn't rain.
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My concern is it has spread far more quickly than I ever could have anticipated, I suspect from the viral surface latency, though I'm in no way certain. Warm Spring weather should put the kibosh on it, most viruses don't like heat and humidity. But it will be back. The first outbreak of the Spanish Influenza was over in Spring. The second outbreak the next winter killed a half million Americans.
I agree with you, except medical science has improved since the Spanish Influenza that killed half a million Americans as you allude.
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It isn't, unless you're old, infirm, or have cardiac or pulmonary issues. That said, if you have any of the aforementioned it is a really big deal, and potentially lethal. My concern is it has spread far more quickly than I ever could have anticipated, I suspect from the viral surface latency, though I'm in no way certain. Warm Spring weather should put the kibosh on it, most viruses don't like heat and humidity. But it will be back. The first outbreak of the Spanish Influenza was over in Spring. The second outbreak the next winter killed a half million Americans.
Wash your hands. Go where you're going to go, do what you're going to do. The fear associated with the virus is far worse than the virus itself. That said, this one might actually live up to some of the hype.
Agree. One good thing about this virus that’s puzzling but we will take it, is that unlike flu it does not seem to want to kill babies.
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Agree. One good thing about this virus that’s puzzling but we will take it, is that unlike flu it does not seem to want to kill babies.
Then it’s not a ‘good’ democrat.
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Then it’s not a ‘good’ democrat.
I see what you did thar...
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I agree with you, except medical science has improved since the Spanish Influenza that killed half a million Americans as you allude.
To be honest, treatment for most viral illnesses has not kept pace with other developments. Oh, there are vaccines for lots, but if there's no vaccine all you can really do for most is let them run their course. There are drugs to alleviate influenza symptoms, but you still have to let the virus run its course.
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To be honest, treatment for most viral illnesses has not kept pace with other developments. Oh, there are vaccines for lots, but if there's no vaccine all you can really do for most is let them run their course. There are drugs to alleviate influenza symptoms, but you still have to let the virus run its course.
But medical technology has vastly improved with regards to taking care of those who are sick. That improved care has a positive effect to the outcome of a virus.
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But medical technology has vastly improved with regards to taking care of those who are sick. That improved care has a positive effect to the outcome of a virus.
Also, or knowledge of how viruses spread, and our preventative practices in place are much better than 1917.
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It isn't, unless you're old, infirm, or have cardiac or pulmonary issues.
But if you're in that demographic, the flu can get you, pneumonia can get you, hell even a big snow storm thins the cardiac herd every year.
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To be honest, treatment for most viral illnesses has not kept pace with other developments. Oh, there are vaccines for lots, but if there's no vaccine all you can really do for most is let them run their course. There are drugs to alleviate influenza symptoms, but you still have to let the virus run its course.
Antivirals were developed for SARS-CoV-1. One that was tested on mice were all cured while the controls died. The developers believe it may work on SARS-CoV-2. Turns out they released this news that caused their stock to soar today when most declined:
https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/aim-immunotech-news-aim-stock-skyrockets-208-on-hopes-for-covid-19-treatment/ar-BB10XdKo?ocid=FinanceShimLayer (https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/aim-immunotech-news-aim-stock-skyrockets-208-on-hopes-for-covid-19-treatment/ar-BB10XdKo?ocid=FinanceShimLayer)