PILOT SPIN
Spin Zone => Spin Zone => Topic started by: Jim Logajan on February 29, 2020, 03:10:10 PM
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“U.S. Signs Peace Deal With Taliban After Nearly 2 Decades Of War In Afghanistan”
https://www.npr.org/2020/02/29/810537586/u-s-signs-peace-deal-with-taliban-after-nearly-2-decades-of-war-in-afghanistan (https://www.npr.org/2020/02/29/810537586/u-s-signs-peace-deal-with-taliban-after-nearly-2-decades-of-war-in-afghanistan)
“The U.S. and the Taliban have struck a deal that paves the way for eventual peace in Afghanistan. U.S. Special Representative Zalmay Khalilzad and the head of the militant Islamist group, Mullah Abdul Ghani Baradar, signed the potentially historic agreement Saturday in Doha, Qatar, where the two sides spent months hashing out its details.”
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I have a mental image of Neville Chamberlain waving a piece of paper...
I hope I'm wrong.
Tim
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We can keep a small force their and in Iraq to keep Iran surrounded without having to risk more lives and $$$. Plus we can put Naval, and Air assets there within minutes from other areas. The Defense contractors, and Military won't like it, but that is why we ELECT civilian leadership in the first place.
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Afghanistan will never achieve peace. History taught us that before we ever went in. That's why it's been called the "Graveyard of Empires".
What it has been for the US, more importantly the Military Industrial Complex, is an 18 year feeding frenzy. Billions upon billions of dollars have been poured down that hole and swallowed up by contractors who profit from war. This is why the establishment are pissed off that their cash cow is ending. And they are pissed off that we don't have yet another war for them to run too and continue the feeding frenzy.
Finally, it's worth noting the silence from the anti war left. For 18 years they have cried about the US involvement in Afghanistan, yet now we have a President that will put an end to it. And they are silent. Amazing.
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I think just about everyone will be hopeful but skeptical (even extremely skeptical).
One fear is that some rabid hateful person will poison the deal through some "random" violent act.
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Afghanistan will never achieve peace. History taught us that before we ever went in. That's why it's been called the "Graveyard of Empires".
What it has been for the US, more importantly the Military Industrial Complex, is an 18 year feeding frenzy. Billions upon billions of dollars have been poured down that hole and swallowed up by contractors who profit from war. This is why the establishment are pissed off that their cash cow is ending. And they are pissed off that we don't have yet another war for them to run too and continue the feeding frenzy.
Finally, it's worth noting the silence from the anti war left. For 18 years they have cried about the US involvement in Afghanistan, yet now we have a President that will put an end to it. And they are silent. Amazing.
The left wants it to fail. Then they can hold it against Trump.
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The left wants it to fail. Then they can hold it against Trump.
Of course. We are now dealing with a Democrat Party that is anti American, and Globalist. The Republicans aren't far behind. We need to wake up as a country, and realize government is not our friend.
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The left wants it to fail. Then they can hold it against Trump.
What would be considered failure?
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What would be considered failure?
Good question. Probably whatever the Dem playbook decides at the time.
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What would be considered failure?
one type of failure: violence erupts which halts or slows the US military withdrawal
one type of failure: women don't get actual rights (dispite what the accord claims)
one type of failure: women get rights which infuriates some groups of muslims (not just in Afhanistan but across the globe)
one type of failure: the Taliban is part of the group "ruling" the country
one type of failure: the Taliban is not part of the group "ruling" the country
one type of failure: the Taliban continues to fund/support terrorism
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The democrat (communist) party is so corrupt that they hate this peace plan because the industrialists that bought them told them to hate it.
They’re like steingar. They do whatever their master tells them.
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Anyone tired of more Trump winning?
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Anyone tired of more Trump winning?
No! The only thing he could do better is to pay us millions to go over there with our Cessnas, Pipers, Beeches, Grummans and Navions to really give them a good fight! ;D
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don't get too ecstatic. It looks like the Afghan government is balking at releasing taliban prisoners
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It is amazing how much this deal is not making the major news outlets.
Now this part I am sure we will here about.
don't get too ecstatic. It looks like the Afghan government is balking at releasing taliban prisoners
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It is amazing how much this deal is not making the major news outlets.
If this were Obama, or any Democrat President, God forbid Hillary, they would be saying it is the largest plan for peace in history and lauding the President as a life saver and humanitarian.
Now this part I am sure we will here about.
Because at least 95% of the Media are just Democrat propagandists. National, local, print, internet, TV, etc.
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I'm listening to Trump's speech last night in Charlotte, and he gave the EXACT liberal Democrat talking point: "I'm bringing our troops home because we don't need to be the world policeman and try to force democracy on countries that probably don't even want it."
This is exactly what liberals have been telling me for decades. Where is their praise of Trump now?
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To prove how peaceful and loving liberals are, they HATE this peace deal because .... because... Oh, yeah.... TRUMP!
Fucking assholes.
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If this were Obama, or any Democrat President, God forbid Hillary, they would be saying it is the largest plan for peace in history and lauding the President as a life saver and humanitarian.
Nobel Peace Prize
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Nobel Peace Prize
Yep, and for good reason. You don't hear anything like that for Trump. In fact the Media is largely ignoring it and Democrat supporters say it can't really happen anyway. Effing hypocrites.
Last night I happened to see an old Tonight Show episode with Carson and his guest was Walter Cronkite. Even back then it was obvious Cronkite was all about molding public opinion through a leftist slant to the news. He was also all about "gotcha" moments with politicians for things in which he disagreed. I never liked him. Smug, arrogant man pretending to be "America's fatherly newsman". What a f*cking joke.
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No! The only thing he could do better is to pay us millions to go over there with our Cessnas, Pipers, Beeches, Grummans and Navions to really give them a good fight! ;D
Thanks for including Navions!
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This is exactly what liberals have been telling me for decades. Where is their praise of Trump now?
Because the evil lying trump has stolen liberal ideas.
<foot stomp>
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well, that peace deal didn't last long...
I'm shocked!
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https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/03/conducts-air-strike-taliban-peace-deal-200304085937305.html
"The US conducted an air strike on March 4 against Taliban fighters in Nahr-e Saraj, Helmand, who were actively attacking an ANDSF [Afghan National Defence and Security Forces] checkpoint," said Colonel Sonny Leggett in a tweet on Wednesday, adding that it was a "defensive strike".
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Trump negotiates from a position of strength. When the Taliban don't cooperate during negotiations, he hits them. This is just another negotiating tool. The troop withdrawal is still happening and will continue to happen.
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Trump negotiates from a position of strength. When the Taliban don't cooperate during negotiations, he hits them. This is just another negotiating tool. The troop withdrawal is still happening and will continue to happen.
They were used to dealing with presidents who now to them, literally and figuratively.